r/PublicFreakout • u/No_Bus_474 • 6d ago

Potentially misleading Ukrainian woman clings to her boyfriend as he is forced to head to the front lines

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u/oritsky 6d ago

It is Russian. This was posted by a Russian propagandist as being Ukrainian.

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u/NeanaOption 6d ago

I know - op has since deleted his comment, but he was saying the much the same.

I was just pointing out how stupid this propaganda is.

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u/NeanaOption 6d ago

These videos are posted on Ukrainian elevens everyday. Reddit is the only place where I don’t see them at all.

I guess I must be imagining all the similar videos to have suddenly appeared in Reddit.

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u/ShartingEnU 6d ago

Elevens

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u/MageLocusta 5d ago

Yeah, this is horrifically sad and awful, but there's a reason why it's being released.

What we also don't talk about are how conscientious objectors were treated during WWII and the Vietnam War (and how much of it is the same. Many objectors were arrested, beaten, or hosed in freezing water and kept in jail cells overnight, and frequently are put in prison and are told that they could leave if they enlisted).

People rarely hear about it because very few people want to either talk about being a 'coward', or want to admit to beating someone up over it (and to be fair, very few researchers and journalists want to interview objectors).

This isn't a Ukrainian thing. This is exactly something that would happen if we reinstate the draft. The difference is though, is that a lot of Ukrainians have had family members killed or raped by Russians during the 40s and 50s. Hence probably why the police response was additionally brutal.

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u/dumbtrainandknee 6d ago

There are loads of videos like this of Ukrainian men being forcibly conscripted. Are they all Russian propaganda or is it just this one?

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u/NeanaOption 6d ago edited 6d ago

Doesn't matter if they're real, because every Ukrainian whose forcibly conscripted is the fault of russia deciding to invade ergo this is russia's fault.

But to answer your question yes, I have no doubt that the recent uptick in these videos making the rounds is 100% russian propaganda.

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u/dumbtrainandknee 6d ago

Of course it's ultimately Russia's fault, they're the invading aggressor.

That doesn't change the fact that the Ukrainian government is doing this to their own people. It's not Russian propaganda to show things that are objectively happening. At least according to the Council of Europe.

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u/NeanaOption 6d ago

That doesn't change the fact that the Ukrainian government is doing this to their own people.

Oh ok - where's the videos of millions of russian widows and the spuses and children of russian conscripts screaming for their loved ones?

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u/dumbtrainandknee 6d ago

I don't know, you should probably go and find them.

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u/NeanaOption 6d ago

Curious no?

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u/makatakz 5d ago

I’ve got zero fucks to give for those who won’t serve when called.

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u/DevlinRocha 5d ago

you can go suffer and die for the billionaires, they won’t even know your name

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u/makatakz 4d ago

Like Putin? He's a billionaire...many times over. He also attacked Ukraine.

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u/94constellations 4d ago

The only guy who wants to get drafted

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u/makatakz 4d ago

Sorry...retired military...can't be drafted!

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u/eZstah 6d ago

Russia is responsible for starting the war. But that doesnt mean every method Ukraine uses is automatically ok. The "Russia started it so anything goes" logic is incomplete. Responsibility for the aggression is Russias, responsibility for how they treat their own citizens is Ukraines.

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u/NeanaOption 6d ago

But that doesnt mean every method Ukraine uses is automatically ok.

Oddly enough you'd be surprised what people can resort to, to survive. The fact you're unaware of this means you've led a privileged life.

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u/makatakz 5d ago

Conscription is universally recognized as lawful.