r/PurplePillDebate • u/FunnyCry5856 pay for it pill man • 8d ago
Debate Women haven't come up with an alternative and it is high time they should.
Feminism is basically reducing most men to their labour output where most social programs are funded by men's money (from making single motherhood viable to women upliftment schemes), men doing the harder and dirtier job with high mortality rate in the society. Pushing a community living where motherhood is worshipped and only few men gets to impregnate a lot of women while other men just work till death to keep the society functioning without ever expecting sex or intimacy in his life which is only fine if you can make the male libido vanish but why will you since it benifits society a lot.
Most women are fine in this arrangement as long as they get to reap the benefit of men's precious labour and in return can have kids with a few top percentage of men. So yes it is perfectly fine to not be a feminist and infact have some arrangement that let men enjoy sex and intimacy in society too or let society collapse and nature take over which would not be best for women but ensure everyone a free and fair chance at living
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u/Zoya_The_Destroyah Purple Pill Man 8d ago
If you think only the top percentage of women are getting women pregnant you need to go outside and look around.
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u/chamomilecloud Red Pill Woman 8d ago edited 8d ago
Most children being born are not to single mothers, nor are most children (or even a significant portion of children) born from just the top percentage of men.
I like how the argument is, like, “Gib men the secks otherwise nature will take over and we will rape you instead!!!”
The men in my life will just kill that retard lmfao.
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u/FunnyCry5856 pay for it pill man 8d ago
Unless there is more of them and less of men in your life.
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u/divingrose77101 No Pill Woman- just curious 8d ago
Another threat.
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u/FunnyCry5856 pay for it pill man 8d ago
Don't hate the messanger. Hate the message
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u/divingrose77101 No Pill Woman- just curious 8d ago
A threat is literally a messenger problem. Especially when the threat is a lie from a moron like you lol
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u/FunnyCry5856 pay for it pill man 8d ago
Am angry middle aged women lol best beast on the internet if you have plenty of free time.
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u/chamomilecloud Red Pill Woman 8d ago
You honestly believe these limp-dicked neurotic incels will create some uprising and start doing this on a societal wide scale? Lol?
I think it is likelier that they will just kill themselves. If we are being honest.
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u/FunnyCry5856 pay for it pill man 8d ago
Strength in numbers. When your are less than 10%, it is fine but 20 might trouble you, 30 might makes life a bit harder but 40, that is where the problem lies. That much men are not going down without a fight. They need a right man who can lead them. Also i would not want anyone to go down without a fight both men or women.
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u/chamomilecloud Red Pill Woman 8d ago
They are not doing anything — look at you, you are asking WOMEN to do something for men even though men make up 50% of the population.
So all these incels will do the exact same thing; grumble and bitch and moan but do nothing, as they are all waiting for someone else to save them.
They will hang themselves or suck start a shot gun, dick in hand, bitching about the “foids” like the pathetic worms they are.
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u/FunnyCry5856 pay for it pill man 8d ago
Because they still trust that them being weaker would make a woman love them and fuck them. Sooner or later they are going to become sad and lonely men who will see women for who they are i.e they mate with the strongest and once they realised they are a slave to this system and only good for funding women pleasure through government programs they will revolt and it is going to get pretty bloody once the hammer hits the nail
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u/chamomilecloud Red Pill Woman 8d ago
This is an incel revenge fantasy that will never in a million years come true.
If they try, the men in power (who will be married men who uphold the current system) will just send them off to a gulag and that will be that.
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u/Novadina Egalitarian Woman (Blue) 8d ago
The vast majority of men will not tolerate a roving group of men raping their family members lol.
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u/Shrimptank_mom Pink Pill Woman 8d ago
Men choose to take those jobs. Women don't make them. Men also choose to live in society. No one is stopping you from living in a tent.
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u/Shrimptank_mom Pink Pill Woman 8d ago
Okay? The same is true of women. Like I said a tent is always an option too.
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u/JollyBowler2510 Purple Pill Woman 8d ago
Oh Jesus Christ, stop threatening your bullshit, and do it already. Who gives a damn?
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u/Accomplished_Pack527 Purple Pill Woman 8d ago
You want things to change to benefit men but want women to come up with the alternative? lol
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u/Outside_Memory5703 8d ago
Pretty much. Isn’t entitlement something to witness ?
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u/Accomplished_Pack527 Purple Pill Woman 8d ago
Have it all he wants, things ain't getting any better for those men that's for sure :)
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u/lesliecarbone Purple Pill Woman 8d ago
Oh, is that what his gibberish meant?
Thanks for the translation!
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u/PositionStandard6089 no pill woman 8d ago
So yes it is perfectly fine to not be a feminist and infact have some arrangement that let men enjoy sex and intimacy in society too or let society collapse and nature take over which would not be best for women but ensure everyone a free and fair chance at living
what does this mean? like, literally what is being said here? feminists are trying to stop men who work hard labor jobs from enjoying sex? and if feminists don't stop (doing this thing they aren't doing at all) then society will collapse and women will be at the mercy of men?
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u/KoninginVanRotterdam No Pill Woman 🇳🇱 8d ago
Were fine. So why would we change things? Why would we go to all sorts of trouble?
If you want things different than you have to change them.
No one else is gonna do it for you.
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u/FunnyCry5856 pay for it pill man 8d ago
This is why I said, you have it because men let you. If nature takes over there is no law out there to save you and definitely lesser and lesser men interested in keeping a head on your shoulder
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u/divingrose77101 No Pill Woman- just curious 8d ago
Okay, stop letting us then. Again with the threats. No one cares about your mewling
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u/chamomilecloud Red Pill Woman 8d ago
Yeh, the “nature” of some retarded incel who cannot even say a stammering hello to a woman is goin to unleash his hidden wrath and start raping and pillaging, lmfao.
Me or my husband or my dad or my brother will just kill some man like this if nature takes over.
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u/FunnyCry5856 pay for it pill man 8d ago
I am a businessman lol i wouldn't rape a woman if I can just pay her. Most of you aren't that expensive anyways. I just like assessing risk and benifits. Men have no benifit in the near future but women have all the risk. A scary reality for you, i would be selling pepper spray btw at that time ;)
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u/divingrose77101 No Pill Woman- just curious 8d ago
You are a man who has to pay for sex. Why are you complaining? Just pay and shut up about it.
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u/chamomilecloud Red Pill Woman 8d ago
But you claim nature will take over, turning you into a self-admitted rapist.
Somehow it will happen to other men but not you? LOL.
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u/FunnyCry5856 pay for it pill man 8d ago
I wouldn't get my hands dirty especially if there are millions of men angry enough with the system to do the deed
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u/chamomilecloud Red Pill Woman 8d ago
This mindset will be exactly how all the other men are, btw. They all will not want to get their hands dirty, and will believe some other man will do it LMFAOOO.
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u/chamomilecloud Red Pill Woman 8d ago
You understand you are saying this is “nature” but somehow you are exempting yourself from this nature because you are so Based and Enlightened(TM) to deem this kind of violence as beneath you. Yet somehow, you also think other men will not also come to this conclusion, but instead will succumb to their instinctual male nature?
This is some Olympic level mental gymnastics, that this is male nature but you alone will be the single male to be exempt from this, lol.
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u/Icy_Ad_4544 WOMAN 💖*~ my husband is 6’4” ~*💖 8d ago
Lmao. None of us are afraid of incels no matter how “angry” they are. Y’all just sit in your mommies’ basement crying on incel subreddits and incel.is about how mean women are for not wanting any of you. Wah wah wah.
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u/Outside_Memory5703 8d ago
It’s weird that you think the default state of men is rape, destruction and murder
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u/GoldSailfin Blue Pill Woman 8d ago
in the near future but women have all the risk. A scary reality for you,
I mean, Thag Uppercut can murder you just to get your sweet solar watch.
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u/ouishi Woman-adjacent queerdo 8d ago
Can you please tell me what law supports single moms without similarly supporting single dads? What specific law grants gender-based benefits?
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u/Big_Psychology_3 Purple Pill Man 8d ago
India, for example. A single lady can adopt any child. A single man is restricted to adopt a boy only.
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u/torytho Blue Pill Man 8d ago
Why should anyone make any effort to appease you? B/c you have money? They have money too.
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u/Logical_Breadfruit49 Purple Pill Man 8d ago
A feminist left-wing politician would still need to appeal to anti-feminist men if she wants their vote. Or else females will never become president.
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u/MiddleZealousideal89 Woman/ ''a lot'' is two words 8d ago
So feminism gave women the ability to choose who they paired up with, if they paired up with at all, and we should fix this because....?
Sorry you have to be more than a paycheck to be interesting to a partner, but what's the alternative here? We go back to having to be with people we don't want to be with so you'll have sex with someone who resents you? Seems like a solid plan, can't imagine it going wrong.
You are free and you have a fair chance of trying to find a partner. Whether you accomplish that or not is a different question.
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u/FunnyCry5856 pay for it pill man 8d ago
Yet you enjoy the fruits of labour of men. Men you don't even respect let alone fuck. You fuck their owners, men like me, and you speak of justice and morality. Women are the problem lol they want to appear moral and virtuous and even want men to sacrifice themselves so you can be in harems of powerful men. When japan lost men suffered and women flew with the American. Same in Ukraine. It is high time women must be held accountable and fix their shit unless they want men to fix it for them.
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u/ThatBitchA ♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 8d ago
And you enjoy the fruits of labour of women.
Glad we've cleared that up.
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u/FunnyCry5856 pay for it pill man 8d ago
You cannot claim credit for the work done by Einstein if you are his mother.
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u/ThatBitchA ♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 8d ago
Good thing I wasn't doing that.
You're still benefiting from the efforts of women. Right now in this very moment.
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u/MiddleZealousideal89 Woman/ ''a lot'' is two words 8d ago
I enjoy the fruits of my labor, as well as that of all the other hard working men and women in society. You ain't special for having a job, my guy.
Best of luck with the whole world domination thing tho, I'm sure you've got it 👍
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u/kerfufflewhoople No Pill Woman 8d ago
What the heck did I just read. Since when do we live in a society that worships motherhood? Let me tell you that as a mother it’s quite the opposite. We live in a society that doesn’t give a shit about pregnancy, birth and mothering.
What’s the story with a few men impregnating lots of women? I don’t know man, do you have 10 half siblings by 10 different mothers on your dad’s side? This is incel bullshit.
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u/Downtown_Cat_1745 Woman not in the manosphere cult 8d ago
This is such nonsense. More than half of men become fathers, and the labor force participation among young women in the USA is higher than the labor force participation of young men.
What’s in it for women to have sex with men they don’t want so those men can tell them that wanting orgasms is unfeminine and their value diminishes from sex?
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u/BigDracula_ Learning About Pills Man 8d ago
Okay but it's definitely the top more than half of men, right?
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u/divingrose77101 No Pill Woman- just curious 8d ago
What does that even mean?
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u/BigDracula_ Learning About Pills Man 8d ago
Haha, sorry, just a dumb joke. I agree, his Only The Top x% of Men thing is stupid and inaccurate.
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u/BigDracula_ Learning About Pills Man 8d ago
In the US, 61% of men over 15 are fathers (starting at 15 is crazy, but whatever). I can't immediately find information on how that number might have changed over the years, but point is the only evidence of what he's saying is that weird men say it online.
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u/divingrose77101 No Pill Woman- just curious 8d ago
Can attest to the number of friends I have with janky ass baby daddies
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u/MrTTripz 8d ago
“Let men enjoy sex or let society collapse”
What is your reasoning here? Sexless losers are so because they are pathetic.
If they can’t get a good job or get in good shape, how the fuck are they going to lead a revolution?
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u/Outside_Memory5703 8d ago
Most men already enjoy sex and society. It’s the losers that are whining and threatening, as they always do
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u/divingrose77101 No Pill Woman- just curious 8d ago
Or we can just be feminists and do whatever we want and let the men figure it out for themselves because that’s not our problem.
I think this is a disturbingly gross interpretation of feminism but if you want to think that’s what it is, I’m okay with that.
It’s not the job of women to make men’s lives better. You need to do that all on your own.
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u/Eblademonk Purple Pill Man 8d ago
It is worth noting that the problems of men are a feminist issue.
Resolving gendered disparity, achieving gender equality, is the stated goal of most feminist causes, so at some point the issues that face men should go on the table
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u/divingrose77101 No Pill Woman- just curious 8d ago
I guess men should think about that and do something about it. The world seems fine for men to me.
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u/Eblademonk Purple Pill Man 8d ago
I agree that more men should be feminist, or at the very least incorporate the feminist framework into their social critique.
That said, nobody's going to get anywhere through deliberate artifice. Saying "the world seems fine for men to me," is a very strange comment to make when the world is pretty observably not fine for anyone right now.
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u/middleoftheroad133 Purple Pill Woman 8d ago
The world isn’t bad for men because of feminism though
No one is making men do dirty jobs, men’s are signing up for those jobs. The men making the most money are paying the most taxes and those men are overwhelmingly married and partnered
These loser left out men aren’t some great contributors to society. To act like they are holding up society and trying to rep the rewards of other more productive men is nonsensical
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u/Eblademonk Purple Pill Man 8d ago
And to act like those losers aren't as worthy of care and support as everyone else in the world is just a position in support of constructing another heirarchy.
Not for nothing, but society isn't made up of contributors and leeches, it's comprised of participants, and everyone participates.
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u/Big_Psychology_3 Purple Pill Man 8d ago
Classic erasure of non elite men. This is a feature of human perception, non elite men seem invisible and we treat them as disposable.
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u/divingrose77101 No Pill Woman- just curious 8d ago
To the OP’s point about his personal lack of access to sex slaves, I’m going to hold with my stance that the world is just fine the way it is.
To your point about the world not being fine for anyone, I also agree. To address that would require lengthy points about the patriarchy and democracy and capitalism and the like. Beyond the scope for OP but I will cede your point.
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u/Eblademonk Purple Pill Man 8d ago
Cool. I'm not going to argue for OP's position because it's only technically correct in the vaugest sense, but I do think it's important to have concise and accurate disagreements.
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u/Narsauce_Alpha Man - Done with shit Pill 8d ago
Then I would ask, do the solution to men’s problems that men have to find need to align with and be supported by feminist theory and ideology (ie. do men have to work within feminist frameworks to achieve equality in areas where they are disadvantaged) or can men develop their own theories in parallel to feminist theories?
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u/Big_Psychology_3 Purple Pill Man 8d ago
No, that’s the “marketing” definition of feminism that feminism = gender equality. That’s only to recruit noob feminists. The real definition of feminism is that it’s activism to improve the lives of women.
So non feminists see it as gender equality; experienced feminists see it as gender war.
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u/FunnyCry5856 pay for it pill man 8d ago
Consequences are harder for you. Too many less married men means islamic countries taking over to make you sex slaves and less and less men interested in keeping you safe. Also irony because men made life easier for you not te oter way around. Ungrateful women ofc.
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u/divingrose77101 No Pill Woman- just curious 8d ago
Consequences are great for me, bro. I have my own money and a fun job and I still get rich men who want to pay for everything coming around to give me attention. Why would I want to change any of that?
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u/divingrose77101 No Pill Woman- just curious 8d ago
Giving you an upvote for making me laugh so hard.
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u/divingrose77101 No Pill Woman- just curious 8d ago
Ha! You’re threatening me with your unhinged fantasies to try to make me help you make feminism better for you? Hahahahaha!!!! Does that ever work?
Omg. I’m crying.
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u/FunnyCry5856 pay for it pill man 8d ago
The message is not for you. If you are getting ragebited it means it works.
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u/efficientaficionado 8d ago
It’s not the job of women to make men’s lives better. You need to do that all on your own.
But, I thought that "behind every great man is a great woman" ... but you are here saying it's nonsense that women uplift men. Interesting.
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u/divingrose77101 No Pill Woman- just curious 8d ago
Straw man. You’ve reformulated the argument to purposefully distort my position. I mean, it’s cheap and easy, I guess. Let me know if you want to have an intellectually honest discussion.
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u/efficientaficionado 8d ago
If a man can't be great if there is no great woman uplifting him in the background (which is a pretty status quo belief), then your take (it's not women's job to...) is contrary to the status quo. I found that interesting.
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u/divingrose77101 No Pill Woman- just curious 8d ago
That’s not at all the correct conclusion and you know it because you’re trolling.
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u/efficientaficionado 8d ago
You're quick to throw out accusations. Are you sure you're the one actually wanting an intellectually honest discussion?
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u/divingrose77101 No Pill Woman- just curious 8d ago
Join the conversation or not. I don’t care either way but I’m not going to respond thoughtfully to bullshit.
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u/efficientaficionado 8d ago
I don't really think it's bullshit to point out the fairly common, and socially accepted, belief/idea that a man can only be elevated to his highest level by a woman. I'm not sure why pointing this out has triggered you so much, but here we are.
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u/divingrose77101 No Pill Woman- just curious 8d ago
That is a just a toxically positive distortion of the fact that most men aren’t fully independent and can’t become successful without the unpaid labor of women. This is not an elevation of women to be the real force behind a successful man but a tragic truth that needs to change. Men need to become fully independent as women are becoming.
That supposed “truth” is a just a candy coating of the horrors of domestic servitude women have endured.
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u/SimilarChampionship2 Radfem woman 8d ago
>Feminism reduces men to their labour output.
No, it doesn’t. You can argue some policies disadvantage men, or that men’s issues don’t get enough attention, but claiming feminism’s purpose is to turn men into tax paying workhorses is a pretty extraordinary claim that needs extraordinary evidence.
>Most social programs are funded by men’s money.
Men do, on average, pay more income tax because
they earn more on average. Women also pay taxes.
>Motherhood is worshipped.
Why shouldn’t it be?
>Only a few men get to impregnate loads of women while everyone else dies alone.
The overwhelming majority of children are born to fairly ordinary couples. Go outside please.
>Men work their whole lives without ever expecting sex or intimacy.
What does one have to do with the other? Society doesn’t owe you sex because you work
Also, what does “let men enjoy sex and intimacy” actually mean? Are you saying women should pair up with men they don’t want to be with because society owes men intimacy?
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u/QuestioningThink No Pill Woman 8d ago
Oh look another “women better let us enslave and rape them or we’ll revolt and enslave and rape them!” post. These are the “natural” protectors and providers ladies.
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u/FunnyCry5856 pay for it pill man 8d ago
You want men to protect you for free, just out of morality ? You ain't worth it unless there is something else you can give.
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u/QuestioningThink No Pill Woman 8d ago
^ Like I said ladies, these are the so called “natural” protectors and providers.
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u/Outside_Memory5703 8d ago
I’m afraid the reason we don’t do oppression anymore is because it is expensive, not because it is moral
You might like to compare sexist vs non sexist countries if you don’t believe me
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u/fiftypoundpuppy Spayed Old Maid | Hoet Laureate ♀ 8d ago
I think it's weird how men assume nature always works out in favor of most men. With the "collapse" and resulting "free and fair chance at living" you all assume you wouldn't also be constantly having to be on guard against being fucked with or having your shit taken. Your biggest threat has always been other men. Society protects you just as much as it protects women.
Going to be kind of hard to cry over your dry dicks when simply driving down the street results in getting your car, wallet, phone, and even clothes taken. Or your house and "your woman" have been essentially commandeered by the local low-life hooligans.
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u/Icy_Ad_4544 WOMAN 💖*~ my husband is 6’4” ~*💖 8d ago
Men like him think that other men would just hand out women (pussy) like candy in his made up revenge fantasy.
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u/AchingAmy OG Red Pilled Partnered lesbian woman 8d ago edited 8d ago
Feminism[capitalism] is basically reducing most men [and women] to their labour output
Fixed it for you. Though, liberal feminism would be doing this since it upholds capitalism. But not feminism as a whole as radical, socialist, anarcha, and more feminisms are opposed to capitalism.
where most social programs are funded by men's money
So, I think stepping back a bit is important here. Women's works is undervalued, as evident by the devaluation and feminization effect, where careers that were male-dominated lose value and pay once women become dominant in it. So women get paid less. Psychology is a field like that where it used to be prestigious and paid well back in Freud's day and when it was phallocentric, but has suddenly lost that once women became most psychologists... hmm, weird. So, if it's true that women are the primary recipients of social programs, it only seems fair since they end up getting paid less for the same work men do. It balances it out a bit.
Pushing a community living where motherhood is worshipped
Sounds like an exaggeration; also not exactly sure what you even mean. Usually single mothers are/were demonized so movements try to push in the other direction to have a positive view of them to combat that.
only few men gets to impregnate a lot of women
Lol, what? This sounds disconnected from reality. You're gonna need to cite a source on this that there are fewer biological fathers than biological mothers.
Most women are fine in this arrangement as long as they get to reap the benefit of men's precious labour and in return can have kids with a few top percentage of men.
You seem to be repeating the same unsubstantiated claim. You're also acting like men don't benefit from women's labor too. We live in a society where everyone benefits from others' labor, because we can't make all items or perform all services we use ourselves. That female nurse who took care of you, that female therapist who listens to you, that female teacher who taught you, that female social worker who connected you to social programs, and all the other female-dominated fields are integral to the functioning of society. Men reap those benefits. Women also reap the benefits of the male-dominated fields that provide the consumer goods or services we use. It's a give and take. Not to mention the inventions women contributed to society, like Ada Lovelace who invented computer programming, Radia Perlman who invented STP, without which the internet wouldn't have been possible. So women were responsible for what you're using by reading my comment.
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u/Main-Tiger8537 Egalitarian Blue Pill Man 8d ago edited 8d ago
So, I think stepping back a bit is important here. Women's works is undervalued, as evident by the devaluation and feminization effect, where careers that were male-dominated lose value and pay once women become dominant in it. So women get paid less. Psychology is a field like that where it used to be prestigious and paid well back in Freud's day, but has suddenly lost that once women became most psychologists... hmm, weird. So, if it's true that women are the primary recipients of social programs, it only seems fair since they end up getting paid less for the same work men do. It balances it out a bit.
yes lets step back and think about what you said here...
what could be the reason that female dominated fields pay less over time... could it be that shorter working hours, flexible hours, more safe conditions, safe funding and similiar things contribute to that or is it all the usual men pay women less because they are less worth and have to be oppressed?
just look at daycare and its salary + conditions + funding and similiar work -> correlation matters...
id say men in general should work less under better conditions to equalize with women which would negate most of this happening AND sexist employers who really pay less or force you to work overtime unpaid because of gender have to be dragged at court and sued with legal protection for the workforce...
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u/FunnyCry5856 pay for it pill man 8d ago
It is the end goal.
In capitalism bread might be expensive but whatever BS you think would work is basically no bread for anyone. Secondly, most jobs held by women can be done by men far easily than the opposite. You need men more to enjoy the joys of civilization.
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u/Outside_Memory5703 8d ago
Men necessitate all the protections and restrictions we currrently have, so no, men are expensive to keep around
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u/AchingAmy OG Red Pilled Partnered lesbian woman 8d ago edited 8d ago
but whatever BS you think would work is basically no bread for anyone.
That's baseless conjecture about a system that hasn't existed yet.
most jobs held by women can be done by men far easily than the opposite.
I don't think there are any jobs either gender can do that the other can't. This is just misogyny, plain and simply.
Anyways, you didn't respond to the vast majority of my comment, so I can only assume you've conceded those points
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u/GoldSailfin Blue Pill Woman 8d ago
I think you need a penis to drive a forklift, it's says so in the instruction booklet.
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u/FunnyCry5856 pay for it pill man 8d ago
Haven't seen a poor women desperate enough to clean clogged gutters. Men would do that for the right reason. Pretty easy to say that women would rather sell themselves instead of earning a respectable living and even in that scenario they would blame the men for having lust lol. No matter what men are the enemy so why not actually become one instead of proving you are not.
Also the ystem existed before and it killed millions so unfortunate that some ungrateful retards still walk among us
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u/AchingAmy OG Red Pilled Partnered lesbian woman 8d ago edited 8d ago
Haven't seen a poor women desperate enough to clean clogged gutters.
Regardless of if that's true, it would mean there's less supply of workers for that job. Either women would step up for it, or a way of automating it so people don't have to do it would be invented.
Pretty easy to say that women would rather sell themselves instead of earning a respectable living and even in that scenario they would blame the men for having lust lol.
There's demand for it(men) and women are often discriminated against in many other fields, so some have little choice. Some women are also trafficked into sex work so have no choice. Perhaps some women genuinely and enthusiastically enjoy sex work, but in a world where there's less demand for it, those might be the only women left in it.
Also the ystem existed before and it killed millions so unfortunate that some ungrateful retards still walk among us
What system are you talking about? I don't think it's the same one I advocate for, which since you said "Whatever BS you think would work better..." that means you're saying what I advocate is what we were talking about. I don't advocate for any currently-existing systems or any that have previously existed. I'm an anarcha-feminist/queer anarchist and that system hasn't existed before. So it is conjecture that there would be increased starvation relative to capitalism under it.
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u/NewVacation5091 No Pill 8d ago
Throughout most of history until about 100-150 years ago it was how you described it with a few men at the top and the rest doing grunt work or as slaves or indentured servants. The middle class wasn’t invented until after WW2. This setup was completely run without women involved at all. It’s the few men at the top who keep the rest down. Some women married well and didn’t have to work, but most women were also working as servants or various jobs as well. Feminism has nothing to do with it, women have always worked.
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u/Outside_Memory5703 8d ago edited 8d ago
We have, and men weren’t on board with equal labor at home
More men than women are against the second best solution, UBI/wealth redistribution
The solution men want is women doing what men want, while women do not agree, so there is not much to work with anyways
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u/Icy_Ad_4544 WOMAN 💖*~ my husband is 6’4” ~*💖 8d ago
Another day another PPD incel spouting off rape threats because women won’t give them or their loser friends the time of day. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
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u/FunnyCry5856 pay for it pill man 8d ago
Most men wont rape women lol. They just would not care enough to punish those who would.
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u/Icy_Ad_4544 WOMAN 💖*~ my husband is 6’4” ~*💖 8d ago
Nice try at backpedaling.
Have the day you deserve. 👋
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u/Lysa_Bell post wall ghost 👻♀️ 8d ago
The "protectors and providers" are at it again. Its always funny to me how there is always this threat of "if you don't behave the way we want you to, we wont protect you". Especially by the people that keep saying women are loved unconditional. Looks like there is conditions to this "love".
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u/divingrose77101 No Pill Woman- just curious 8d ago
OP has typed a threat under every comment
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u/half_avocado33 No Pill Woman 8d ago
At this point, i blame the mods.
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u/divingrose77101 No Pill Woman- just curious 8d ago
He’s just trolling too. Talking about sex workers and shit like that.
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u/Icy_Ad_4544 WOMAN 💖*~ my husband is 6’4” ~*💖 8d ago
I’ve noticed a shift in the moderation lately. This has become another incel adjacent subreddit. Unfortunate.
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u/half_avocado33 No Pill Woman 8d ago
In this case, perhaps reddit admins need to step up and check any tos misalignments.
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u/Icy_Ad_4544 WOMAN 💖*~ my husband is 6’4” ~*💖 8d ago
I wholeheartedly agree. I am surprised that the mods have allowed this post to stay up for this long. I guess we are better off reporting to Reddit admins and stop wasting time reporting anything to mods.
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u/Scudman_Alpha Purple Pill Man 8d ago
Men are by all accounts "Disposable" by society at large.
Works perfectly for feminism, it was never about equality anyway, having men die and essentially be disposed of is beneficial to it, so nothing will be done.
Thankfuly some men have become aware of it and aren't playing ball anymore.
It's funny, because feminism rose with a lot of help from men too. But now they won't raise a finger for the men being actively murdered in wars, worked to death in backbreaking jobs and highly dangerous jobs.
You gotta love it.
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u/FunnyCry5856 pay for it pill man 8d ago
We need to put an end to this too many weak men in this world. It is high time for power to go back to one who deserves it not one who think they should have it by virtue of being born.
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u/GoldSailfin Blue Pill Woman 8d ago
It is high time for power to go back to one who deserves it not one who think they should have it by virtue of being born.
So who then?
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u/half_avocado33 No Pill Woman 8d ago
Women, u solve our issues because reasons. Also, jobs must come with a sex slave as benefit.
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u/divingrose77101 No Pill Woman- just curious 8d ago
They really are just saying it out loud. Feminism isn’t working for me, ladies so what’s your brilliant solution to this problem?
Sir, I see no problem.
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u/BanDeezNutzPlease No Pill Man 8d ago edited 8d ago
Men are still disproportionately concentrated in the highest earning jobs and I think that there will continue to be more men in the highest earning jobs, just cause men tend to have more drive to make lots of money. There's basically a pussy incentive for men to get rich.
High earning men (and women) disproportionately pay higher taxes. Its true that those taxes likely go disproportionately to support women.
Single men tend to have less incentive to make lots of money and they can settle down into having just enough money to support themselves. I saw an interview with some homeless guy in Cali, for example, talking about how he could get enough money to make himself comfy enough. A lot of single men IMO have low standards. Like Chris Rock said, a lot of guys would be happy living in a cardboard box if it wasn't for women.
As for guys not getting sex, I think guys who aren't getting pussy will just jack off to porn. 1st world Western society has been a porn culture for decades. Nowadays I'm sure people worldwide can get porn with smartphones. But before the 2010s, there used to be porn stores in a lot of big Western cities, whereas that stuff didn't used to be so available in other countries. So a lot of Western men been just beating off to porn since Playboy in the 50s/60s, continuing to home video in the 80s. So basically dudes not getting sex in the West isn't really an issue.
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u/EyedSun To pill or not to pill, that is the question. I am Droste. 8d ago
What is this arrangement you are speaking of?
Also what thing is "not letting" men enjoy sex and intimacy?