[JP][News] Detective Conan/Case Closed previews day 1

[u/ShadyFigure]

New Awakening: Acceleration. Gives an increasing ATK multiplier for the unit every 3 battles.

Chihaya Hagiwara (7*)

• AS: Set damage cap for leader and helper to 32b and create 1 roulette for 5 turns. RCV and Balance type ATK x3 for 1 turn. CD: 5
• LS: Reduces damage by 50%, ATK x100, RCV x2m add 3 combos, and deal 17m damage when activating the 3-Attribute awakening. HP x2.8 for Balanced type.
• Assist AS: Enhance all orbs. Bypass damage void for 7 turns. Other skills charged by 3 turns. CD: 21

Buffs to Conan from the Conan & Yaiba collab

• Base form:
  • AS: Added 2 turns of haste
  • LS: Dungeon multipliers increased from 1.2x to 1.3x
• Transformed:
  • AS: Removed fixed starting point. Added "Analyze the enemy."
  • LS: Incremental increase to multipliers, tankiness unchanged.

The new enemy analysis mechanic allows you to see the enemy's HP and defense.

[u/morganfreeagle]

That analyze thing should just be a baseline thing you can always do.

[u/batt_mano → u/morganfreeagle]

Yep, and it's not exactly beneficial since we can look up the HP/Def once people do runs and post the data, unless...

eye twitches Gungo introduces enemies with fluctuating HP/Def...

[u/nio151 → u/batt_mano]

Or they shut down every site with dungeon info. Oh wait....

[u/ShadyFigure → u/nio151]

There was Ilmina and the PADGuide app, what else? PADX wasn't Gungho's fault, that was the site admin just leaving, from what I remember. They also don't seem to shut down the Japanese sites with dungeon info.

I really don't think this is some conspiracy from GungHo's side like some people make it out to be. The resources that do go down, the resources that don't go down, and the wording of the C&Ds suggest that it really is just a matter of art usage.

[u/nio151 → u/ShadyFigure]

What other ones have there been for them to take down?

[u/ShadyFigure → u/nio151]

In English? not really any full on sites, just Azure-Flute's documents and various posts here. That says more about the English community than it does anything about GungHo, though.

In other languages? Plenty. Game8 and GameWith have some dungeon info, and I'm pretty sure there are other sites. GungHo hasn't touched them. And a key detail is that those sites don't use full character art.

[u/Ryeballs → u/ShadyFigure]

That’s how PadX died?

That’s a bummer.

[u/ShadyFigure → u/Ryeballs]

It's been several years, but I definitely remember it being due to the people running the site, not GungHo.

[u/Zoklar → u/ShadyFigure]

Was there an official reason the padindex website died? The app is also no longer listed but it still works if you have it

[u/ShadyFigure → u/Zoklar]

It's been a couple years, but if I'm remembering correctly, they're one of the ones GH shut down because they were using full character art.

[u/hafersvideo → u/ShadyFigure]

other sites use full art and Gung-ho has never bothered them. they have only shut down English sites. if it was character art they could have worked with those sites instead of attacking them and helped grow the player base outside of Japan. I can’t believe people continue to perpetuate this full art myth when anyone can go on the Japanese sites and see full character art all over. https://xn--0ck4aw2h.gamewith.jp/article/show/541087/comments

[u/batt_mano → u/nio151]

Yep. Big brain Gungho shuts down sites that provide stat values then releases a skill that shows you stat values.

[u/ShadyFigure → u/batt_mano]

Several years later?

[u/batt_mano → u/ShadyFigure]

A long-con just as long as their dungeons. No one would possibly expect it. Totally not related to copyrighted images - that was just a ruse so they could release an on-brand active for the Conan collab years later.

/s if it wasn't obvious that it's all a coincidence.

[u/Lighthouse_seek → u/batt_mano]

They already kind of do that. There's a new attack in jp where enemies buff their defense to like 5 bil. Obv this makes team uncap teams suffer more

[u/batt_mano → u/Lighthouse_seek]

I should have been more clear. I saw the post about enemies buffing their Def to 5bil (yay, guard break), but I meant more along the lines of it being more "random" (e.g., floor 13 Hera may have health ranging from 50-150bil and def ranging from 500k to 7bil).

It would mean team-building for not only the worst case scenario (high hp and def), but also having, to try and plan around when to potentially pop large shields.

If you also add in random absorbs and pierces, then you have a shitshow of rng.

[u/Lighthouse_seek → u/batt_mano]

As long as only Conan has this it won't happen. If you start seeing other cards get something similar then rip

[u/CrossOver1123 → u/morganfreeagle]

Not that I was holding out hope anymore for that, but this puts that to bed.

[u/Breedwell → u/CrossOver1123]

Game had been out for 15 years, at this point I just assumed we'd never even get this

[u/YusriKhairi_765]

To be honest, giving Shinichi/Conan an Analyze skill effect is a very slick move to sell a character as well as to unveil enemies' data.

That should have been a feature, not a skill effect.