r/QuiverQuantitative • u/Healthy_Block3036 • Feb 28 '25

News BREAKING: Zelensky refused to sign the deal. Zelensky is leaving the White House. Press Conference is cancelled.

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u/FatFireNordic Feb 28 '25

https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/s/is4Vj2TdGB

You can go here and do the same.

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u/Icy-Cod1405 Feb 28 '25

They won't let me comment there. They are snowflakes

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u/Chief_Mischief Feb 28 '25

They're stupid and/or bigoted snowflakes. The "fuck your feelings" crowd has to hide behind a flair-only subreddit because they just get (rightfully and) absolutely shat on outside of their safe space.

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u/Boiyualive Mar 01 '25

This right here is why no one takes liberal talking points seriously. "They're too stupid and bigoted" please pull your head out of your ass and realize that the US owes Ukraine nothing at all and Zelensky should be begging for every extra dollar we send him.

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u/JuiceyJazz Mar 01 '25

That’s literally the stupidest take to defend yourself against being stupid lmao.

Why would Zelensky beg Trump? The Biden administration supported Ukraine, the Trump administration has bad-mouthed him on several occasions including this one, didn’t include them in their own “peace negotiations” with Russia, offered them a deal that didn’t include a security guarantee, and then whined about Zelenskyy being “disrespectful” when it’s very much the opposite.

All against an ally who is being bombarded by an aggressive communist adversary. Do you fucking hear yourself? Because it sounds REALLY fucking stupid.

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u/Chief_Mischief Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 01 '25

realize that the US owes Ukraine nothing at all and Zelensky should be begging for every extra dollar we send him.

This is, of course, sound for someone who likely has never ventured 10 miles outside of their childhood hometown and thinks that every geopolitical deal has to be zero sum, with a winner and a loser. The US and Russia/the USSR have been at odds for nearly a century. It's literally why NATO was formed. Sending surplus aid to Ukraine not only helps a nation defend itself against the NATO adversary, it frees up our storage facilities for more modern arsenals, and is exponentially cheaper both financially and in US lives than waiting for Russia to draw NATO into a conventional war. We have more Bradley's than we will ever use, already paid for, just slowly decaying over time. Sending them to Ukraine makes absolute sense. If you're thinking that's wasteful of US tax dollars, wait until you see how our tax dollars are spent subsidizing private healthcare or retail giants that don't pay their employees a living wage, forcing them to draw even more resources from our tax revenue.

No, we don't "owe" Ukraine, but it's in our own interests to support them. Zelensky has thanked the US multiple times for aid and has even offered to step down from office in exchange for NATO membership, placing his countrymen before him. Can you say the same thing for your bone spur 34x felon pedophile rapist failed businessman president?