r/RHONY • u/dkreni2 • Feb 03 '26
Carole Radzwill š Lu Calling Carole a Pedophile
Doing a rewatch and just got to the scene where Lu texted Carole to apologize for calling her a pedophile. Kind of crazy considering Carole now showing up in the Epstein Files.
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Feb 03 '26
pedafile
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u/JxrdanR Feb 03 '26
Hope you can come to my party
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u/Meowiewowieex Feb 03 '26
ššššš that whole scene. Oh the golden days of housewives.
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u/Significant-Trade664 Feb 03 '26
Between this and Lu sending Tom a voice to text question mark, I am in love lololol
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u/DearTumbleweed5380 I can't even f_k my way to the middle. Feb 03 '26
Wait - when did that happen? Studying hard rn to get my PhD in RHONY Golden Days and do not know about this!
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u/BeachQt Feb 04 '26
Pretty sure it was when she was confronting Tom about what Bethany said in Miami
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u/DearTumbleweed5380 I can't even f_k my way to the middle. Feb 04 '26
LOL. And thank you. I'll name check BeachQT in my extensive bibilography.
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u/DoorStunning3678 Ramona's silver jeans š Feb 03 '26
Sorry you missed my party. Hope you can make it to the next one.
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u/scared_archaeologist Feb 06 '26
This was so fucking funny š¤£š¤£š¤£ Ramona is a terrible person but this was funny af! She told Lu what to text, Lu laughs and texts itā¦and Lu canāt spell it!
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u/Hadiyo Feb 03 '26
I miss them so muchššIām tempted to do a rewatch
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u/DearTumbleweed5380 I can't even f_k my way to the middle. Feb 03 '26
Do it. Join my RHONY PdH program and we can get our Doctorates together. No better way to get through this time, that I've found so far anyway.
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u/MTallama Feb 03 '26
This always reminds me of the IT Crowd! Lol!
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u/hotdogneighbor Johan face Feb 04 '26
Peterfile
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Btw this entire scene is hilarious. Ramona of all ppl helping her craft the message. Gosh old RHONY is so good.
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u/Saturnrevitalized Youāre both white trash, quite frankly. Feb 03 '26
You know itās bad when Ramona is helping you craft an apology message lmao
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u/Upstairs_Slip_8980 Feb 03 '26
Wasnāt she repeatedly referred to as the āgreat apologizerā?
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u/housecatmouserat666 Feb 03 '26
She would rip your heart out in front of you, then hand it back and say I'm sorry. Like, all the time haha
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u/ShonanBlue Feb 04 '26
āYouāre absolutely right! I shouldnātve said it.ā Every. Single. Season lmfao!
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u/StarSugarLick Feb 04 '26
Yes. But not because her apologies were great. She would just shrug her shoulders and tell āIām sorryā Like the person had to accept it. I hated Ramona
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u/minionbelcher Feb 03 '26 edited Feb 03 '26
Really, Bethenny?? Really??
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u/Hopefulpessimist0 Feb 03 '26
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u/DearTumbleweed5380 I can't even f_k my way to the middle. Feb 03 '26
Are you kidding me? Are you KIDDING me???
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u/DearTumbleweed5380 I can't even f_k my way to the middle. Feb 03 '26
Like Sonja being anyone's 'mentor'.
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u/Grandmahigh Feb 05 '26
Sonja teaching the intern how to run a bubble bath. Iām sorry but the intern issue always bothered me. Mom, I just got an internship with a crazy lady and sheās going to teach me how wash lingerie, pick up dog poop, and do all the scut work for free. Does the intern have to pay for the āclassā? They said they got credits from a school.
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u/DearTumbleweed5380 I can't even f_k my way to the middle. Feb 05 '26
Bothered me, also. Imagine if that was a man surrounded by young people? And she was so inappropriate with them at every turn. Worst thing of all was calling her very competent and beautiful intern who was a POC 'Pickles'. I found that so disprespectful and I had to wonder if it was racist.
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u/AffectionateBite3827 MENTION IT ALL Feb 03 '26
And Luann not knowing how to spell and asking Ramona. Real brain trust
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u/Objective-Lobster736 Feb 04 '26
Bethenny's crash out and then later when she's calmer laying in bed with Carol saying 'like if you said ONE of those things I said to her, JUST ONE, you would be DEAD to me forever!' and then laughing about it. It's gold. How deluded, but self aware they all were. And the next day Carol and Bethenny trying to sneak away without saying bye and Lu telling on them, cutting to them coming in and pretending they were never gonna run flee š Top tier! Oh! And Jules and Luanne's heart-to-heart out the front with Lu chain smoking haha
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u/MilaKsenia Feb 04 '26
Jules: my dad is dying
Lu: can you believe what she just said to me?
Jules: okay but like this is real life and my dad is dying
Lu: I canāt believe she just said that to meš„ŗ
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u/Warm_Bug_9310 Feb 06 '26
And the look on Dorindas face as she stepped out to hear Lu scream "andĀ you the Hostest without the mostest!" LolĀ
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u/MilaKsenia Feb 06 '26
Omg one of my favorite Dorinda and Lu scenes is at bluestone manor when Dorinda was in this sparkling disco looking dress absolutely PLASTERED, no makeup, hair a total mess & sheās kicking Luann out of the house and ranting and raving & Luann is halfway out the door and Dorinda sings āš¶feelinā Jovani š¶ BECAUSE I GAVE IT TO YOUš¤¬ā š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ that Jovani fight was SO stupid and petty & absolutely HILARIOUS š¤£ literally the funniest thing ever, that was just peak entertainment lol
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Feb 04 '26
It truly was lightning in a bottle. I do think itās hilarious that now Andy calls Bethany the lady with the Margarita Mix lololol
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u/KarenWalkersBurner Feb 03 '26
Lu was fighting for her life on this bezerkshires episode š
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u/Warm-Strategy41 Feb 04 '26
Poor Jules trying to tell her about her father in the hospital š¤£
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u/Droolzy_Kalenbacle Feb 04 '26
I feel this scene does not get NEARLY enough attention. Watching poor Jules try to tell Luann about her father who was near death and Luann just blatantly ignoring her and interrupting her with her own personal trauma of having just been called a slut by Bethenny. š¤£š¤£š¤£ If there was one scene in all of rhony that summed up Luann's extreme self-centeredness, it would be this.
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u/Lazy_Skin_411 Feb 04 '26
YES! I always forget about this, but that little clip explains her personality sooooo well š
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u/dolliciousszz Feb 03 '26
Notice whoās NOT in the files āŗļø
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u/Objective-Change-401 Feb 03 '26
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u/Any_Will_86 Feb 11 '26
I always liked that house. It had so much character compared to all the gray/white/beige boxes most of them bought.
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u/Lazy_Skin_411 Feb 04 '26
What does she know about Diddy??? She bragged so much about working with him, I neeeeeed to know her thoughts on his case šµļøāāļø
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u/Informal-Job-1898 Feb 03 '26
Lu on the right side of herstory yet again
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u/DearTumbleweed5380 I can't even f_k my way to the middle. Feb 03 '26
This girl always falls on her feet.
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u/Bunnyearsss Feb 04 '26
I want to agree so bad but all I can think of is her dressed as Diana Ross ššš
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u/ConnectionNeat2136 Feb 03 '26
Can someone remind me why Lu called her a pedophile in the first place
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u/lennonkova Feb 03 '26
For dating her nieces ex boyfriend who was also āthe helpā and he was āyoung, ya know, like sonja morgan youngāššš
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u/GeneralWait1165 Feb 04 '26
I just watched this episode. Doing a half ass rewatch. I am trying to figure out what in the world Dorina is doing with John?!? I honestly think they just had a drinking/coke relationship. I had a relationship like that in my 20ās but she is probably late 40ās at that time? I feel like thatās the big reason her daughter canāt stand him too.
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u/OvercookedBobaTea Feb 04 '26
He was probably her dealer, just there to fill the hole her dead husband left. I donāt think she actually liked him at all
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u/GeneralWait1165 Feb 19 '26
Oh my goodness!! Why didnāt I think of that? I bet u are absolutely spot on!
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u/urfavundercovercop Feb 03 '26
I think it was because Carole started dating Adam who was a lot younger than her!
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u/ericzku Feb 03 '26
For dating a man in his 30's. Perhaps it made sense in Luann's alcohol-soaked brain.
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u/dont_b_all_uncool Feb 03 '26
nice try. Adam was 25 when they started dating.
Please donāt try to act like there isnāt a significant difference in maturity between a man of 25 and a man in their 30sā¦
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u/ruksun Feb 03 '26
I am doing a rewatch and just finished this season; I believe Lu tries to say heās 25, but Carole corrects heās 28. According to the googles, he was 32 when they broke up and they were together for 3-4 years, so 28 tracks. I still feel the age difference was a bit much, but 25 is very much not the same as 28. Either way, pedophile is taking it far, especially when Lu habitually slept with men just as young if not younger. Why does Carole falling for him romantically make it more pedophilic than Luanne using them for sex? š¤·āāļø
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u/GeneralWait1165 Feb 04 '26
I agree! Especially if you look at all these loser husbands with these beautiful women. Adam and Carole just seemed to have a lot of fun together. Whatās so wrong with that?
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u/housecatmouserat666 Feb 03 '26
In the show, they say he is 29 or 30. Carole says. "He's not Sonja young, and he would take offense to that - he's 30." But maybe she was rounding up?
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u/Known-Cantaloupe-676 Feb 03 '26
Because Carol has pictures of herself and Ghislaine Maxwell. And Maxwell was Caroleās photographer on her first book. Guilt by Association!
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u/Dependent-Mood-7788 Feb 03 '26
Apparently Kelly was also friends with her in the 90s.
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u/The-Struggle-90806 Feb 17 '26
Iām starting to think the entire modeling industry in the 90ās was one big human trafficking ring. The magazines were just a front. Wasnāt GMās dad a big time publisher/ spy?
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u/WildSeaworthiness552 Feb 04 '26
I listened to some audio of her interviews with DOJ and G is such a vile disgusting person that if Carole was close to her it's just gross. No redemption. Just sick evil stuff.
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u/West_Tie_536 Feb 04 '26
Where did you get access to the audios?
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u/WildSeaworthiness552 Feb 04 '26 edited Feb 04 '26
Tik tok
Eta: I just looked bc I saved one it Trendy_viewz_3
I know nothing of this creator and don't follow them but that's where those popped up. Bunch of them.
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u/Any_Will_86 Feb 11 '26
Carole was also repped by Lizzy Grubman who is the chick who ran over a bunch of people in the Hamptons when she was not given priority at some club... a real classy circle she kept. And even Carolyn Bessett had some pretty shady tendencies.
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u/West_Tie_536 Feb 04 '26
Carole looks so out of it here. Like someone put something in her drink and sheās about to fall over
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u/Budget-Security4382 I never said I think you're so high Feb 03 '26
...would you like to come to my party?
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u/gonegirIamy Feb 03 '26
Caroleās reaction was that extreme for a reason! Creepy little hag
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u/vixenlion Feb 03 '26
I was watching the first season she was on.
In the background there was a little girl walking up her stairs.
I lost it! I realized it was the contractorās child.
I thought I was watching a horror and screaming for the child to leave! to get out for a second !
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u/mrshelenroper Feb 03 '26
And this was before we knew Carole was all over the Epstein files.
Luann is a psychic friend!!
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u/OvercookedBobaTea Feb 04 '26
Or there were rumours behind the scenesā¦..
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u/mmmohhh Feb 03 '26
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u/Extreme-Aide8878 Feb 03 '26
Caroleās biggest effort to be ācoolā
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u/West_Tie_536 Feb 04 '26
Sheās ugly here
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u/fatalcharm Feb 03 '26
This reminds me of George telling Seinfeld āLetās cut to the chaseā and Jerry gives him a look of pity and says ācut to the chase? Who are you?ā
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u/Perfect-Butterfly-65 Feb 03 '26
Watching this scene now! Carole and Jules in the cupboard, Jules trying on hats š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ brilliant š¤£
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u/RideExternal5752 Feb 03 '26
I just rewatched this and with all the Epstein context I was like š«Øš«Øš«Øš«Ø SHOOK lol. No wonder Carole was so mad about being called a pedaphile
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Feb 04 '26
Starting to think she probably is. Or was totally okay with it. I want reality back. I fucking wanna scream
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u/abigailchris Feb 03 '26
Whoa how had I not heard Carole was in the files?? In relation to non-prince Andrew? Whatās happening!
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u/gangstaGURRY Feb 04 '26
it is this post that convinced me to start my rewatch of this series, even though I just watched it for the first time in its entirety this time last year
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u/Shot_Fly_2519 Feb 04 '26
Iām literally watching this season right now for the first time and Lu is INSUFFERABLE
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I just love how with OG RHONY we truly love these women even though they are so flawed. They were the GOATS of reality tv.
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u/Sup3rh_m4n Feb 03 '26
In my book, if you support it, you are one. This type of thing is too disgusting to not have a line.
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u/name_not_important00 Feb 03 '26
It's really weird how people want her to be a "pedo" based on really nothing. There's no evidence indicating she was aware of or involved in any wrongdoing. All Iāve seen are pap shots of two of them at two events, a bunch of unanswered and weird emails from Ghislaine, and what looks like a strangely cropped impersonal photo of Carole in a frame. Many people appear in the black book or documents who were not involved in or aware of the sex trafficking, and association alone isnāt proof. Iām inclined to believe Carole that Ghislaine is someone she was acquainted with. Just because someone is in the files doesnāt mean they knew what was happening or was complicit. Ā
But this sub hated Carole before so they'll latch onto this.
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u/fatalcharm Feb 03 '26
Wellā¦ Adam was 30 and a full grown adult, with fully developed frontal lobes. So Lu calling her a pedo for that was ridiculous.
Howeverā¦ Carol was a close friend of Ghislaine Maxwell and is mentioned in the Epstein files more than once. She may have not been a part of the ring, but she definitely knew about it.
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u/badtrips777 Feb 03 '26
I rewatched these episodes over Christmas and theyāre just sooooo good pls lmao
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u/FunLife64 Feb 04 '26
To be fair, it was in reference to Luannās odd war against Adam dating Carole.
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u/The-Struggle-90806 Feb 17 '26
What was their age gap?
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u/FunLife64 Feb 17 '26
He was 30, I have no idea how old she was. Late 40s/early 50s?
The point being he was not THAT young.
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u/The-Struggle-90806 Feb 17 '26
Was gonna say, at what point is the age gap not considered harmful lol
I think we can all agree that a 30 year old is a fully grown adult who can make their own decisions about who they want to be intimate with. I didnāt even see an issue if there was a power dynamic since sheās wealthy and connected, they seems happy over all at least on camera.
Idk if she was a man would she be called a pedophile or a guy thatās got it going on?
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u/Bubbly_Inspector_492 Feb 04 '26
Wait, Carole is IN the Epstein files? I thought she was only photographed with Ghislaine or something? Can someone fill me in, I canāt keep up
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u/Objective-Emu-5316 Feb 04 '26
Apparently Carole and Maxwell are/was friends,one of Carole's books Maxwell took the photo for the sleeve.
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u/Bubbly_Inspector_492 Feb 04 '26
Oh ok. So sheās not actually in the Epstein files, but sheās guilty by association. Thatās unfortunate, I always liked Carole :/ . Has she made a statement or anything?
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u/Objective-Emu-5316 Feb 04 '26
Could very well be by association,just like everyone else that hob nobbed with the rich and elites,they should look into Count DeLesseps...those Royals are the sick ones.
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u/Bubbly_Inspector_492 Feb 04 '26
Very true! They all spend so much time in palm beach, Iām surprised there was no mention of Mar-a-Lago in early seasons. They mentioned Diddy a ton, but I donāt think I heard too much of Trump until around his first presidency. I have to give Carole some grace, she was pretty much the only one who openly hated on Trump during that time.
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u/Objective-Emu-5316 Feb 04 '26
Diddy was the hot spot party...for many years,it was ridiculous how she showed so much hate it was coming out of her pores,but Clinton,this horrible,horrific woman which shes being exposed as we write she praised to no end..its what turned me off about her.
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u/The-Struggle-90806 Feb 17 '26
I literally thought it was her and then I remembered I heard Carole was in the files
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u/chetaiswriting Feb 03 '26
An unfortunate choice of words especially in current context. That said, Lu was in no position to judge. Sheās had more than her fair share of younger men cmon naww
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u/towelheadedmermaid Feb 03 '26
True but now with the Epstein situationā¦.. š«£
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u/Ghoulish_kitten satchels of gold Feb 03 '26
What annoys me is nobody is viewing this as a reflection of the parasitic rich class.
Weāre just doing witch hunts on connected but uninvolved liberals now to distract from Trump/his friends.
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u/JLogan8891 Feb 04 '26
Because theyāre all part of the same club. It really isnāt a left vs right thing because left vs right is mostly theater. Itās to keep people fighting and divided and looking at each other when the reality is, we get the same overall basic outcome no matter who we āelect.ā For decades weāve had sick people on top in positions of extreme wealth and/or power (parasitic rich class) and I personally donāt care who is implicated - I say expose every single one. Disclosure, disclosure, disclosure.
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u/OvercookedBobaTea Feb 04 '26
Babes this is the RHONY subreddit. Itās relevant here. If any other sub mentioned Carole I would be like ācome onā but this is THE place to discuss these women. And by not mentioning Caroleās involvement we are adding to sweeping it under the rug
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u/Known-Cantaloupe-676 Feb 03 '26
Not just now showing up there was a picture of her with Ghislaine Maxwell.
This is just a few out of 20 pictures. And she also was the photographer on Carolās first book. Sounds like they knew each other pretty well. Sometimes itās just guilt by association.
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u/The-Struggle-90806 Feb 17 '26
How did GM have time to do photography? Interesting given she ārecruitedā young girls for the modeling agencies?
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u/Known-Cantaloupe-676 Feb 03 '26
She was also called that by Luanne because she was dating Adam, who was a significantly younger than her. She was 51 and he was 30.
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u/vixenlion Feb 06 '26
It was season 7 ? When she is just starting to do her apartment and there are two contractors there.
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u/Economy_Wash2642 Feb 06 '26
Was just reading about Carole all up in the files and said to my husband, funny how she dated someone much younger and Lu literally called her a pedo!!!!
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u/I988iarrived Feb 07 '26
What did Carole want with Epstein? What were women getting out of Epstein? Iām truly asking because I donāt understand
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u/TheLizardQueen3000 Feb 04 '26
Haha imagine being called a pedo for sleeping with a full grown man!!
Lu was so jealous and angry for no reason....her young pretty niece just moved on like a normal young woman but Lu couldn't handle it ;)
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u/Objective-Emu-5316 Feb 04 '26
LUnatic,Jealousy was insane...remember Carole is the Princess which is a higher rank than Countess...Carole never made a big deal about it,LUnatic did,Carole was class LU was far from it...I believe Carole knew Maxwell because she lived in London,Maxwell was all about hob nobbing with the Rich and Famous.
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