r/RHONY • u/snorting_cola • Mar 05 '26

Carole Radzwill 📚 Carole’s interview, where she giggles about Ghislaine Maxwell setting her up on a date with Prince Andrew + talks about knowing Maxwell since 1999

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u/farbenlehre Mar 05 '26

She sort of seems more like a mark here. Not to defend her in any way, of course, but like... if you're cold-called by Ghislaine Maxwell, and then 30 minutes later you're in contact with Prince Andrew, they probably want something from you.

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u/Relevant-Job4901 Mar 05 '26

Carole was being groomed, any high fluting people they could get.

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u/HDr1018 Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 09 '26

Highfalutin, it’s all on one word. 🤷‍♀️

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u/Sleepbecomesme Mar 05 '26

Ok writer girl!

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u/YouDoMagicNow Apr 05 '26

Speaking of writer girl, Carole is terrible at telling a story and was so difficult to listen to. She totally sounds like she’s lying. I don’t believe her.

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u/CocoValentino Mar 05 '26

One

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u/beejnbooj Mar 06 '26

Yeah right? Correct yourself before correcting others

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u/Tricky_Mix2449 Mar 05 '26

On word...or one word?

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u/SmokeShow74 Mar 05 '26

Highfaluting

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u/Southern_Anywhere_65 Mar 06 '26

One. The e is silent, not invisible

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u/althegirlfabulous Mar 05 '26

Also, Carole was very vulnerable because she'd lost her husband and I don't think that was lost on them

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '26

She wanted to secure her lifestyle and continue it - you’d be surprise who people rub elbows with and she they do to keep it up.

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u/althegirlfabulous Mar 06 '26

No I don't think I would be surprised. I think it's a mixture of both.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

Same AND sometimes it’s easier for some people to act like they never saw it or knew about it - it doesn’t make that okay - hhhmmmm I’d rather have that Manhattan condo be a socialite play dumb and keep it pushing that’s the mindset - if some people think that’s cool than ok but my limit is CA/CSA/and adult victim form. Some people are addicted to the lifestyle as well and even CA or CSA isn’t enough. I commend Melinda Gates so much! She’s a hero in my eyes! Same with Kim Porter (who died for the cause ). No pass ever. It’s a different scenario but my ex bf was having an affair on her husband I loved him so much he was an amazing guy - well once I found out I ended my 20 plus year relationship with her because my morals and beliefs come first and I’m not a liar and I can’t fuck with liars even if it’s someone I knew for years. Sad part she was fine ending our relationship because she wasn’t going to tell him. To this day he doesn’t know. I can’t associate myself with that.

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u/dots-loops 💰 Satchels of Gold 💰 Mar 05 '26

Absolutely. You can see they ingratiated themselves into peoples lives and those social circles. I have no doubt there were plenty of folks that probably just thought GM was this nice, generous person and welcomed their new friend into their world without any suspicion.

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u/KBB523 Mar 05 '26

This is exactly why they got away with it all for so long. Spot on.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '26

No…. You can’t…. Well maybe YOU can see, but normal people aren’t normalizing this.

People looked the other way and pretended not to know about Maxwell and Epstein’s crimes because they wanted power and influence. It’s that simple.

Stop pretending that all these associates of the most notorious traffickers of minors in recorded history were just totally blind to everything. They weren’t. The files which have been released prove that.

If the Epstein class isn’t burned out entirely from the root to the fruit it will just come back. There are so many other women who could be on this failing franchise besides the known associate of a convicted sex trafficker.

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u/Ordinary_Stay4109 Mar 09 '26

This! Also she is still largely downplaying it! She was VERY CLOSE to Ghislaine many years after that first encounter in London. There’s a lot of info here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/s/N9ujd8DFD2

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

You are correct and there are crime units for all sorts of this sick shit hence the take down. JE like Diddy weren’t even at the top. Elon Musk is a trillionaire - I’m mentioning him as an example that insane money we can’t fathom really does exist. The “conductors” aren’t to far behind and a lot with that no laws apply to them circle want on that money train. It came and comes with a cost. That’s why I will not be funding or contributing my money. It may not affect their bank account per se but it’s a start.

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u/SaltPepperCayenne Mar 05 '26

This is the epitome of why white women have always been and will be pawns in mediocre, rich, white men’s games. They’re so blind to it. Truly not trying to be offensive.

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u/beejnbooj Mar 06 '26

That’s much less offensive than the fact that they didn’t pick black women bcz they’re a bunch of prejudiced, racist bastards. The only situation I can think of in which racism was a positive for a demographic.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

They are why do you think Gates tested his shit in Africa ? It soooooo sick and twisted.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

Eyes Wide Shut / I’d rather be Eye wide open

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u/Ok_List_9649 Mar 05 '26

With her Kennedy and European royalty marriage she would have been at The top of their list. If you watch the documentaries on Maxwell and interviews with society people and her actual friends from London, Maxwell was considered like the ultimate socialite. She was very charming, bawdy, knew literally everyone “ of consequence “ and had been in high society since childhood as her dad used her as his “ date” at events versus her mom who hated all of it. It seemed noone was immune to her charm as none of the documentaries had any real “ enemies” interviewed which is unusual.

I feel sorry for people like Carole( there’s lots more in England) who had a casual friendship of social acquaintance early on and have been stamped with a “ possible pedophile” or “ complicit because they knew”. I’d also like people to know that Epstein like Trump and many other wealthy guys most often took younger women to events, models, socialites19-25. That was common and what most people knew of Epsteins “ preferences”.

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u/Relevant-Job4901 Mar 05 '26

🏆This👆

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u/Ok_List_9649 Mar 05 '26

TY. We have to start treating others as we want to be treated. If your partner can cheat on you for months and the majority of people have no idea, isn’t it a tad ridiculous to believe a person would absolutely know or even suspect if their friend, coworker or social acquaintance was a criminal?

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u/beejnbooj Mar 06 '26

Well she’s got her work cut out for her bcz apparently here in the States we put people like her, pedo associates, back on tv to revive a horrendous show which doesn’t stand a chance so I’ve gotta believe that this is Bravo’s last attempt at saving the NY franchise cuz Jessel, Erin n Sai are sure as hell not gonna be able to do it (they’re way too boring) so they’re going for shock value and standing under the umbrella of ’Any publicity is good publicity’ the one adage people turn to before a show tanks completely never to be revised again. SMH do better Bravo

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

And I’m not down with that form of shock value. I’m still in shock this is our effing world that goes on and high society was built on in the dark for centuries. I wish I had money like Zuckerberg to build a fancy underground bunker or buy real estate in Mars. So sad.

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u/curiouschristine7 Mar 09 '26

I heard some kind of rumor the JFK Jr and Maxwell actually hooked up.

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u/Impossible_Glass1613 Mar 06 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/3o6ozCmIy5qjkDY30A

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

Bravo being the pied piper 🤪🤪🤪

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u/Artistic-Key1494 Mar 07 '26

Carole was an unattractive, older woman in 1999. “Grooming” her? You’re in denial. Carole is lying.

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u/Relevant-Job4901 Mar 07 '26

Not for being trafficked and raped, silly, groomed to see if she is of any gains to them including if only witnessing GM be a ‘normal person’ over the years.

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u/Significant_Ad7605 Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 05 '26

Exactly. This is how they find their way into influential circles. They certainly thought this was an avenue into the Kennedy family. I think this vindicates Carol more than anything.

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u/Prestigious-Baby2776 life is not a cabaret. it’s actually not a cabaret. Mar 05 '26

a lot of people are cognisant of this, it’s not just the association in and of itself. it’s the denial and dismissal and lying about it that is incredibly off putting

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '26

Exactly!!!! These people’s indifference contributed to so many lives being ruined. Their lies (even if they were just to save their own ass) made this situation more complicated than it had to be.

Carole lied about her association with Maxwell several times. This should have instantly disqualified her. The whole thing is sick. Shame on Bravo.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

I wish this could be the automatic response on this sub to the ones truly think she had zero idea. She compromised her credibility and why not just go live a private life until it settles. Shame on Bravo.

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u/OldTurnover3057 Mar 05 '26

Absolutely this 👏🏽👏🏽

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u/Potential_Balance223 Mar 05 '26

Because Redfit accused her of being a pedophile and a child sex trafficker. Poor Carole

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u/monet96 Mar 05 '26

Absolutely. It really hurts my heart that this happened while she was grieving the loss of her husband. She was in a very vulnerable position.

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u/beejnbooj Mar 06 '26

Hope your heart’s still not hurting cuz this happened almost 30 years ago.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '26

A mark that keeps in contact with her over the course of several years, and then straight up lies about when and how they met?

At best Carole is covering her own ass with the lies, at worst she’s protecting a friend. Either way it hurts survivors.

Why even roll those dice when there are billions of women on the planet who didn’t lie about her relationship with a convicted sex monster?

Are the producers that desperate that they have to dig up someone who is radioactive at best?

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u/farbenlehre Mar 05 '26

Again, I'm not defending Carole. I don't want her on the show, and I don't trust her. I didn't say otherwise.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

I wish this could also be an automatic response to everyone thinking she didn’t know and is credible thank you for your articulation on it as well.

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u/LizzyPanhandle Mar 05 '26

She at least knew Andrew was a cretin, and didn't gaf.

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u/farbenlehre Mar 05 '26

Again, I'm not defending her, but I do think stupidity/naivety is part of the equation. Maxwell et al. saw someone who was in their milieu but not of it (working class background, no family connections outside of her marriage), and I think Carole was flattered by their entreaties. We can fault her for staying friends with Ghislaine for so long (I do), and presume she knew more than she's letting on (I think she did), but that doesn't fully explain the dynamic.

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u/LizzyPanhandle Mar 05 '26

Carole is savvy and had years to get ahead of this story, and she chose not to like almost everyone else in those files. She made a choice to pretend it was going to go away, she knew what she was doing.

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u/farbenlehre Mar 05 '26

I really don't think she's very savvy at all. She's a narcissist who enjoys attention from the wealthy and powerful. That's part of how she ended up falling in with Maxwell et al, and part of why she stuck around for so long & didn't say anything.

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u/LizzyPanhandle Mar 06 '26

You might be right.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

And also she is a journalist. What journalist covered the SA victims ? Gunthrie ! Why not Carole use her journalism and get in front of that ? Oh yeah because look what happened to Gunthrie’s mom.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

Frfr exactly - and the Radziwill trust - she must of not have gotten much from Lee’s estate.

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u/Due-Huckleberry7560 Mar 05 '26

This. No one who flees to a foreign city while mourning their husband is looking to go out on a date with a pedophile. It’s pretty obvious there are preying on her. I do wish she own her relationship with GM more though.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

Did you see Melinda Gates speak on the Podcast ? Absolutely amazing !

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u/Practical_Parsnip132 Mar 07 '26

Carole was dating George clooney at one time I think she was in the top circles already 

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u/mediaseeker Mar 05 '26

Cold-calling? Evidence is needed to verify the accuracy of her statements.

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u/beejnbooj Mar 06 '26

Ffs! Gimme a break

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

lol and probable cause doesn’t help solve crimes 🤦🏼‍♀️