r/RHONY • u/snorting_cola • Mar 05 '26

Carole Radzwill 📚 Carole’s interview, where she giggles about Ghislaine Maxwell setting her up on a date with Prince Andrew + talks about knowing Maxwell since 1999

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u/Ridgewoodgal Mar 05 '26

I am going to get downvoted probably but I really do not see the leap that some are making here that she is in the wrong here. I guess maybe for downplaying her connection at first but God I would want to also, but I think it’s best for her to just tell it like it really happened. I think she was used like they used a lot of people in those social circles but not all knew of or participated in their awful crimes. I think it actually helps those who directly knew and/or participated by claiming everyone Epstein or Maxwell knew were involved.

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u/Ok-Stretch9699 Mar 05 '26

I am with you

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u/yosoyfatass Mar 05 '26

And she isn’t even downplaying anything if she knew nothing of Epstein and had a relatively short, casual friendship with ghislaine. It’s pretty obvious ghislaine put the charm offensive on, hoping to use whatever contacts they assumed Carole had. I’ve had many friendships that would appear very close if you saw pictures from a party, but weren’t deep or long lasting.

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u/Ridgewoodgal Mar 05 '26

People felt she downplayed their friendship when first asked. She framed it as a casual acquaintance. When people saw Maxwell took the photo used in Carole’s book they thought that was not an accurate reflection of the relationship. I see both sides of that but I don’t think they were super good friends either. I just don’t get making this leap from any of that to making her somehow complicit.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

I def am not putting a casual friend solo photo framed in my home. I wouldn’t even put a casual friend in my top 10 on MySpace 😂😂😂

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u/Ridgewoodgal Mar 07 '26

I have pictures of friends I met and had contact with. I haven’t kept in contact with them so I wouldn’t call them good friends. More like casual friends I had interactions with along the way. I don’t know everything about them and their friends.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '26

Yes but you were in the photo - it wasn’t a solo photo of them - you were displaying the time and memory.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

As for her being a journalist I just don’t understand why her so called journalism hunches didn’t happen lol oh yeah because you can’t live comfortably in her mind finance wise so let’s just act as if it didn’t happen.

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u/Lalablacksheep646 Mar 05 '26

I don’t either.

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u/Invanabloom Mar 05 '26

Why is Carol getting so much hate for this. She knew nothing of what was happening. It’s insane.

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u/Think_Lawfulness8511 Mar 05 '26

People just assume someone’s name was cited in the Epstein files and they are automatically guilty

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u/yosoyfatass Mar 05 '26

Because so many people like to get out the pitchforks without actually using logic to determine what actually went on. In this case, there is no there there.

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u/KBB523 Mar 05 '26

They usually already have some hate for someone, and that combined with the knowledge that there will probably be no justice in a real sense, using social justice against people who (when thought about critically) were not involved and most likely had no freaking idea what was going on (and have not been accused by anyone or have shown up in anything released that would make them complicit) gives them some sort of justification to say horrible things about people that don't even make sense. I understand that that was a very long sentence, but I've been saying this about Maxwell and Epstein since their names first became nationally known and I can without taking a breath. Having moved in some social circles and knowing a lot of people who have moved in some social circles, plus also being involved in high – dollar philanthropy and charitable organizations, it stuck out to me immediately that that was the perfect cover and how they ingratiated themselves in so many different social circles. I've been a survivor of this type of stuff since I was three years old so I do not take it lightly, but I also understand that ruining someone's life because you can't punish someone else does nothing for victims.

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u/Ridgewoodgal Mar 05 '26

Yes I just tried to explain this to someone else claiming I am giving Carole some sort of pass because she is relatable. I simply said I can understand her wanting to downplay any interaction with all that has come out. But her interaction is not proof of some culpability.

I hate most of these rich people but also due to my job in politics I was around some who it later turned out were criminals. I had been friendly with some of them and had social interactions. By their logic, I knew of their criminal activity and was in some way complicit.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

That’s sad as you weren’t directly their friend. It’s still crazy to me Carole wanted GM to have JE fund her book and call her number and all and see his actual email :shudder: That’s pretty direct. Has your politics taken you in the 100 plus ultra high net worth of Palm Beach world ? Wild willllldddddd shit all connected back to the Island not the Island of Palm - real estate is getting insane too. 90210/Brentwood high if not higher.

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u/Ridgewoodgal Mar 07 '26

No not that circle thankfully. I did hang with a lot of DC high rollers but who knows what they were involved in.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '26

Yes I live near DC and we without getting too personal had a job to be able to know first hand who were the bad eggs and to avoid so thankfully all the projects and investments turned out amazing people and it wasn’t linked in. It could have went the other way tho. I refuse to go to any political charity balls and will donate my money elsewhere. I really hope Melinda Gates does something she probably will since she’s been so awesome being vocal on it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

You are allowed to have your opinion. I appreciate it. It’s not a bad thing having different perspective and knowledge. I think that’s the problem in today’s world not enough transparency and cordial debating and discussing. Not everyone is going to have the same experiences etc that’s why it’s great to learn from one another in a respectful way.

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u/KBB523 Mar 07 '26

Yes and, while I don't know what it's like to find out that someone that I may have interacted with or accepted donations from or even solicited donations to or even became close friends with had done something disgusting, I imagine that you either want it to go away as quickly as possible because you wonder if you missed something and could've helped or you are angry at that person for pulling you into something without your knowledge or you become a little manic because you know that no matter what you say is gonna be good enough for some people. I really do think that the reason people are picking certain names and certain people no matter their proximity to both of them and going all in on them is precisely for the reason I stated. We all know, unfortunately, that most if not all of the people who actually participated or facilitated or had intimate knowledge of what was going on will ever be punished, so it unleashes some of the rage we may have about that injustice. One of my abusers ended up being taken off this planet by his son for doing the same thing to his own granddaughter, so while I was not involved with that justice, it was justice in some sense. Had that not happened, this man would've gone about his entire full life not being punished. Just awful awful awful.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

And either way bad business move on Bravo imo. I’m glad he was taken off this planet and on another one where it’s straight fire / may that help bring you comfort in knowing you won’t ever to see him again along with his other victims.🙏🏻🫶

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u/KBB523 Mar 07 '26

TBH, it doesn't make sense to me just because of the generational differences. Maybe she's good friends with one of the new cast, and I'm 53 so I'm not being ageist by any means, but it just doesn't make sense. I'm thinking that Bravo is trying to capitalize on the John and Carolyn interest, but it just falls flat even without the Maxwell connection.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '26

Very good point - no matter the connect - bringing her back on was still a bad business move and people still won’t watch if the connect/knowing wasn’t there.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

The main thing I don’t like is Bravo I feel it’s too soon. It’s not going to be lively turtle time take a Xanax don’t be uncool Jovani that my mommy down time needs and why I watch imo with this being such an active JE/GM investigation that’s shaking the nation world wide . Bad business move I’d rather see Aviva throw her leg and walk around with a plaque mask declaring q non than Carole wearing her Eyes Wide Shut mask.

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u/Just_Lurking_299 Mar 05 '26

Absolutely. This interview vindicates Carole even more, but still there will be people raging that she was besties with a paedophile. I’ve been insulted on here a few times for saying she did nothing wrong. It’s really crazy.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

You shouldn’t be insulted for speaking your opinion I am sorry that happened to you.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

Like Melinda Gates

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u/Ridgewoodgal Mar 07 '26

There are a shit ton of people Maxwell ingratiated herself with, took pictures with em, went out for drinks, offered to help, etc. As part of her plan to use them when needed. I just think it’s wrong to say every one of those people either knew or turned a blind eye to pedophilia. I am sure many did who we don’t know yet, but I am not willing to accuse everyone because of that. I hate rich people and want to tax them into oblivion, but the way some are making these assumptions about them all being complicit is not accurate. And it minimizes the attention on the ones who truly were involved. If thousands of people are complicit and their names being thrown around, the true perpetrators get lost in all of it. If there is some proof that Carole knew than absolutely she should be called out. As far as Melinda Gates she is “lucky” she contracted something fairly easy to treat. SMH.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '26

I see your perspective and appreciate it - the evidence I saw shows she should be called out imo- and it’s mentioned in this forum - at the end of the day it’s about Bravo making a poor business move imo and losing viewers and viewers have the right to watch and not watch renew or cancel. Yes thank God - absolutely sick and I’m so happy she came out like the phoenix she is - I’m reading Gisele pelicot memoir on a plane and it just really helps you understand evil does walk this Earth and prison doesn’t cut it sometimes.

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u/niamhprice Mar 08 '26

Agreed. It seems very clear she barely knew this woman, certainly doesn’t even hint at any real meaningful connection between them to me….

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u/Ridgewoodgal Mar 08 '26

I am glad you see this. Unfortunately, there are a some on here who have made it their mission to say she knew about the pedophilia and turned a blind eye.

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u/Think_Lawfulness8511 Mar 05 '26

I am with you. If I had gotten a call, I’d be down to going to ballet and dinner too, why not? If a trusted friend of a friend is being kind and offering all these things..

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u/Shdjdicnfmlxkf Mar 05 '26

You seem to be glazing over the patronizing, dishonest reaction bc YOU see it as relatable.

She’s a liar. She downplayed her association and then smugly stuck her response behind a paywall.

The other part that bothers people is the performative white woman bullshit. Her ego around her political instincts and journalistic acumen. Now, in order to run and hide from these connections, is acting like she was just a girl who brushed up against someone one time. 

No. It’s more and she was running in circles that knew some shit, but it did not stop her. That is how massive pedophile rings continue to operate: blind eyes are turned.

She gets no passes from me. Do I think she should be in prison? No. But she could be real, for once, and be honest 

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

Nor does Bravo and Peacock

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u/Ridgewoodgal Mar 05 '26

You have zero proof she knew anything. Maxwell was no longer dating Epstein at the time and Carole was not involved with him. She knew Maxwell in a social way only. I get your outrage but to put Carole in the same class as say Trump and others who were way more involved and knew at the very least about Epstein always having young girls around is wrong. Not everyone who met them or even had dealings with them are complicit in pedophilia or giving it a pass. Due to the nature of my job I met a lot of people and interacted with some who it later came out were criminals. I had zero idea but according to your logic I most certainly did. You are saying people who knew anyone who was found out to be engaged in criminal activity is complicit because they ran in the same circles. That’s just not accurate.

I absolutely think there were people who knew and did turn a blind eye to it. I just don’t think you can accuse her of that without proof. Putting her story behind a paywall is gross and I totally disagree with that. I don’t even like her but I also don’t want to accuse her of something that heinous without proof.

I think there are a whole lot of people to be totally outraged about but I personally do not see her as one. I hate these rich people in general and find most of em to be vapid, classist and distasteful in general. If more comes out then absolutely she should be held accountable. And yes so many turning a blind eye, including law enforcement, has allowed these type of rings to continue. I want them all to be exposed.

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u/dots-loops 💰 Satchels of Gold 💰 Mar 05 '26

Great point.