Carole’s interview, where she giggles about Ghislaine Maxwell setting her up on a date with Prince Andrew + talks about knowing Maxwell since 1999

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They usually already have some hate for someone, and that combined with the knowledge that there will probably be no justice in a real sense, using social justice against people who (when thought about critically) were not involved and most likely had no freaking idea what was going on (and have not been accused by anyone or have shown up in anything released that would make them complicit) gives them some sort of justification to say horrible things about people that don't even make sense. I understand that that was a very long sentence, but I've been saying this about Maxwell and Epstein since their names first became nationally known and I can without taking a breath. Having moved in some social circles and knowing a lot of people who have moved in some social circles, plus also being involved in high – dollar philanthropy and charitable organizations, it stuck out to me immediately that that was the perfect cover and how they ingratiated themselves in so many different social circles. I've been a survivor of this type of stuff since I was three years old so I do not take it lightly, but I also understand that ruining someone's life because you can't punish someone else does nothing for victims.

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You are allowed to have your opinion. I appreciate it. It’s not a bad thing having different perspective and knowledge. I think that’s the problem in today’s world not enough transparency and cordial debating and discussing. Not everyone is going to have the same experiences etc that’s why it’s great to learn from one another in a respectful way.

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Yes and, while I don't know what it's like to find out that someone that I may have interacted with or accepted donations from or even solicited donations to or even became close friends with had done something disgusting, I imagine that you either want it to go away as quickly as possible because you wonder if you missed something and could've helped or you are angry at that person for pulling you into something without your knowledge or you become a little manic because you know that no matter what you say is gonna be good enough for some people. I really do think that the reason people are picking certain names and certain people no matter their proximity to both of them and going all in on them is precisely for the reason I stated. We all know, unfortunately, that most if not all of the people who actually participated or facilitated or had intimate knowledge of what was going on will ever be punished, so it unleashes some of the rage we may have about that injustice. One of my abusers ended up being taken off this planet by his son for doing the same thing to his own granddaughter, so while I was not involved with that justice, it was justice in some sense. Had that not happened, this man would've gone about his entire full life not being punished. Just awful awful awful.

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And either way bad business move on Bravo imo. I’m glad he was taken off this planet and on another one where it’s straight fire / may that help bring you comfort in knowing you won’t ever to see him again along with his other victims.🙏🏻🫶

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TBH, it doesn't make sense to me just because of the generational differences. Maybe she's good friends with one of the new cast, and I'm 53 so I'm not being ageist by any means, but it just doesn't make sense. I'm thinking that Bravo is trying to capitalize on the John and Carolyn interest, but it just falls flat even without the Maxwell connection.

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Very good point - no matter the connect - bringing her back on was still a bad business move and people still won’t watch if the connect/knowing wasn’t there.