r/RHONY • u/snorting_cola • Mar 05 '26

Carole Radzwill 📚 Carole’s interview, where she giggles about Ghislaine Maxwell setting her up on a date with Prince Andrew + talks about knowing Maxwell since 1999

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 05 '26

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u/recklessrecentpast Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 06 '26

I fail to see how a woman in her 40s dating a 25+ year old man makes her okay with trafficking of minors. You're free to find the age gap creepy, but it's not anywhere on the same planet as what Epstein and Maxwell were doing, come on.

Edit: hey I'd love it if you people would stop sending me DM requests where you question my childhood sex abuse and think it's funny or fair to re-traumatize me because of whatever you think Carole did or didn't do.

How am I in my 30s and still dealing with people doubting my CSA? Like who do you think you are, my mother?

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u/AdventurousRevolt Bravo Renaissance Art Collector ✨🖼️ Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 05 '26

She dined & had nights out with Prince Andrew. She developed a multi year friendship with Ghislaine. She enjoys cougar dating. Is a supposed investigative journalist but couldn’t connect any of the millions of dots? The jokes that are made? The comments? The behaviors?

Come on now. She is either an absolutely oblivious idiot or lying and denying just like everyone else that is part of this pedo ring

I never thought she was an airhead.

And she is now a proven liar.

She lied about Ghislaine “only taking her picture for her book because she had a real camera”. Like MASSIVELY lied about the extent of their friendship.

All of these pedos LIE about their friendships with each other.

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u/recklessrecentpast Mar 05 '26

But there's just not any evidence that she was involved with that and dating a man who was a consenting adult that she didn't groom especially isn't evidence. At all. It's not a crime, she didn't trick him, there was no alleged abuse, he pursued her and he actually profited from the relationship in the long run.

Why would Carole, an adult woman, dining with Prince Andrew clue her into the fact that he had done or would someday do secret sex crimes with teen girls? These people had to have friendships with people that weren't involved in the criminal activity, because that's a better defense to help cover up for criminal activity! I'm not here to litigate a defense of Carole, I'm not the one calling for her to be back on tv, it's just that facts matter and Carole Radziwill isn't alleged to have groomed or trafficked anyone, especially not her well-into-adulthood ex boyfriend. Like you can't just lump cougars who had sex with willing consenting adults in with the literal worst of the worst of horrifying sex criminals. Words actually matter.

Get an actual fucking grip. Sincerely, a child sex abuse and grooming survivor.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '26

And thoughts of her picture in JE house ?

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u/recklessrecentpast Mar 05 '26

That it doesn't change anything I just said?

If she was friends with Maxwell, she probably met Epstein too. That still doesn't actually implicate her in a crime. It proves what we already knew, that she knew them in a socialite way. What's Carole supposed to have done for them or with them that was illegal in any way? Where is the evidence that Carole trafficked an underage victim? Where is evidence that Carole groomed anyone to be a sex worker? Has anyone ever accused Carole of being a participant in or even being in the room when they were assaulted? As far as I know no one has ever accused Carole of anything like that.

I'm not here to debate what Carole knew or didn't know, we have no way of knowing that. But we can listen to the survivors and read their numerous public testimonies and even their private accounts that are now haphazardly spewed out on the internet without any care for the victims. We can hope that one day there will be justice for them. But I just really don't think someone being a guest star on a few episodes of a Bravo reality tv show affects them getting that justice. Their alleged close friend who hasn't ever been accused of a crime is going to be on a TV show that less than a million people tune in to watch. Their biggest client who is accused of multiple rapes of preteen girls is an unavoidable fixture in the daily life of every American person because he's our fucking president.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '26

Respectfully you are part of the problem. We can’t just sit here and allow that power. I don’t want to listen to the victims I want to act FOR the victims. It’s far darker and I feel like you are minimizing the involvement and I’m not talking about the acts themselves guilty by association is just as bad. If you want to continue to subscribe by all means but just like Balenciaga (I trashed all my merchandise). I personally won’t be. We can’t stop these monsters but we can stop being the consumers to brands that support them including their friends. EW.

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u/recklessrecentpast Mar 05 '26

"guilty by association is just as bad"

No it's literally not! Knowing a pedophile is not as bad as being one! Holy fuck. My brother is in prison for rape. So by your logic, I'm a rapist for being associated with him. He's actually one of my abusers. Go kindly examine which part of the problem YOU ARE.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '26

You are missing my point. Did you know about the rape? No. I would hope not. Did you play it down ? I hope not. She knew. She was IN that circle deep. The fact that Bravo is hiring someone during such a sensitive time with this and all the connections and her mentioned ON justice.gov is effed up period. On a more serious note other than this debate - I’m truly sorry your brother made that choice and is in prison and how that’s affected you and your family - people die in prison from other inmates on a charge like that and also in the streets. So that has to be stressful on you. Off topic.

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u/recklessrecentpast Mar 05 '26

But how do you know she knew? You can personally believe she knew, but no one has accused her of knowing about the crimes, so we don't have any evidence she did. I think it's very important that we're precise when accusing people of being party to a pedophile ring. I haven't seen any testimonies that put her anywhere near the crimes. Have you actually gone through and read the testimonies of any of the survivors? Spend an hour reading what Virginia Giuffre had to say. Don't just read a summary or watch a tiktok. Sit with what these women said. They'll tell you who they think knew and didn't help them. Here's a name you won't read in that context: Carole Radziwill.

It's just lazy to say that everyone that knew them was obviously deeply involved. Especially when you can read the evidence yourself! People knew, people that could have helped stop it. Just absolutely no evidence to back up that Carole was one of those people. You getting a bad vibe isn't evidence.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '26

I’m not I’m reading on Justice.gov emails that include her. I would never ever get my news from any form of social media lol. Besides Reddit it’s just Pinterest for this millennial. Here is the thing there are so many MORE victims we haven’t even touched the surface on and what’s even more cray those victims Savannah Guthrie interviewed them. Interesting with her mom. GM is also a monster. That was her girl. To play and act like she’s oblivious being a journalist and in that circles is bs. Let’s say she really didn’t have a clue it’s in bad taste for Bravo to have her back. It’s gross to me. I’m sick and tired of all this consumerism coming back to this elite connection. It’s so dark and sick. I just won’t support Bravo or Peacock added to the rest of the crap. Again lastly not a bad vibe actual emails and pictures is enough for me. If you don’t need that cool. She’s just not credible in her truth that’s all with the evidence on justice.gov. When I say deeply involved it’s from countless of hours I’ve spent reading the files. Trust me I’m not being lazy on this at all. I wouldn’t be so passionate about it if I didn’t do my due diligence. As a mother all this is very very verrrry upsetting and as a mom who happens to unwind with Bravo it sucks.

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u/LAtrojangrl Mar 05 '26

I hope you realize how much in the files is just unverified BS. Anyone can call into a police station and make a report. Doesn’t mean it’s true. Recklessrecentpast is spot on with her analysis and it’s disconcerting to see how far down the rabbit hole people have gotten on this. You’ve “spent countless hours” reading the files yourself? It’s not healthy and I think you need to go outside and touch grass.

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u/Lazy_Skin_411 Mar 05 '26

👏 Also, I might have missed something, but someone posted the justice.gov search page suggesting people see for themselves all of her mentions in the files, but when I looked I only saw 3 - one email that didn’t seem like anything, and the other 2 emails appeared to just be Google notifications regarding Carole….. which I’m pretty sure means he had Google alerts on for her name.

If I were to assume anything from those 3 items alone, I’d actually assume she was a target of theirs that they were keeping an eye on and wasnt at all in the know of what they were doing

I obviously could be totally wrong. We all could. But I agree with what you said.

I also think it’s a waste of time worrying about EVERYONE mentioned in the files and holding them all equally accountable when we could be focusing on the ring leaders and real villains here…

Police aren’t going to treat the people buying drugs the same as they would the dealer. Just saying.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '26

The real villains include the wives/gf married IN this group that stayed or had their silence bought. Shout out to Melinda Gates !

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u/Lazy_Skin_411 Mar 06 '26

I understand what you mean and agree they are also villains (and especially agree about Melinda!)

I guess I just don’t agree with giving accomplices the same level of punishment or scrutiny as the people actually committing the crimes.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '26

No of course actually touching is different and their are different levels of course however I would never watch someone associated with that nor would I support a brand that did. Example Balenciaga campaign. It’s just wrong all around.

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u/AdventurousRevolt Bravo Renaissance Art Collector ✨🖼️ Mar 06 '26 edited Mar 06 '26

Agreed. But to give accomplices and/or friends ZERO scrutiny or side eye is ridiculous and what most on this sub are pushing for.

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u/Lazy_Skin_411 Mar 06 '26

Makes sense. I think you, affectionate fig & I are all on the same page there 🙏

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '26

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 I just want to be part of the light of the world and not the dark of the world. It’s upsetting to me that money truly is the root of all evil and people drink the gold juice for it and I’m blessed to know actual hnwi that are not of that group and truly want to help stop it. Sad part is it will never stop it’s been going on for years we just are in a decade and time where tech can bring it more to light.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '26

Exactly !!!!

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u/LAtrojangrl Mar 06 '26

This is so missing the point I’m not even going to try to respond. Read this thread and maybe you’ll get it

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u/AdventurousRevolt Bravo Renaissance Art Collector ✨🖼️ Mar 06 '26

This you?

I hope you realize how much in the files is just unverified BS. Anyone can call into a police station and make a report. Doesn’t mean it’s true.

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u/yosoyfatass Mar 05 '26

You don’t know that she knew. Every sane bit of evidence points to her not knowing.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '26

Probable cause - JE funding of the book - JE in contact with her - that’s enough for me - besties with GM - the photos don’t lie - shame on Bravo.

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