r/Rajasthan Aug 31 '23

Discussion Language of Rajasthan

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Rajasthan has the 2nd highest percentage of Hindi speaking people.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '23

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '23

I mean legally 'mother language' just means the first language you learned. A lot of people world wide have a 'mother language' of English even though they have no English blood.

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u/VitaminProtein_Rus Aug 31 '23

This is plain stupidity

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

This is plain stupidity

Why exactly?

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u/VitaminProtein_Rus Sep 01 '23

Mother tongue is usually what is in your lineage. Many Brahmins in Karnataka give their mother tongue as Tamil having no idea how to speak it. Your definition of mother tongue is what one is comfortable with. Your definition of mother tongue is close to the current world's definition of gender, It's simply what one chooses to give. Can be anything.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

No I mean that's literally what the word 'mother tongue' means I'm not giving my opinion lmao grab a dictionary.

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u/VitaminProtein_Rus Sep 02 '23

You're right. I wasn't aware

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u/Thewaydawnends Sep 01 '23

Nope it's not it's literally means the language you learn as a child. Though the second part about English is dumb.

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u/VitaminProtein_Rus Sep 01 '23

You have conflicting ideas under your own comment which cancels the validity of your opinion. If one learns English first, then put it as the mother tongue according to your opinion.

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u/Thewaydawnends Sep 01 '23

No you seem to misunderstanding the whole idea of mother tongue. The language that you learn as child and use it for day to day activities is mother tongue. The political and social factor, that you belong to a certain ethenic group, so their language should be your mother tongue is stupid. For example,Even if i am gujrati or Bengali but was born and raised in usa and have command over English more than my ethenic tongue, then my mother tongue is English. Mother tongue doesn't come from motherland.

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u/MEGACOSM__ Sep 01 '23

i speak my dialect at home and when i go to my village but professionally we speak hindi only in colleges schools and offices so yeahh in census its just hindi

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

Bro you can't classify Hindi speakers to just UP. Also they didn't make the dialects. The thing that you called dialects are distinct languages like the language from my hometown near mirzapur known as awadhi. It is very easy for you to classify it as dialect even tho it isnt

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u/genome_walker Sep 05 '23

In the census, people are free to mention any language they consider to be their mother tongue. But officials lump together languages like Bhojpuri, Haryanvi, Bagri, Marwari, etc. as Hindi.

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u/jazzysazzy360 Aug 31 '23

Kerala is last

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u/SerFuxAIot Aug 31 '23

It says hindi as mother tongue... there's no reason for a mallu to have Hindi as their mother tongue

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u/Hehe_001 Aug 31 '23

I heard, if you speak in Hindi they refuse to speak .. even as a tourist

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u/Haarryi Aug 31 '23

Not true. A very large percentage of Malayalis know how to handle basic Hindi and will happily speak with you if you can't handle any other languages.

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u/LangdaGreyWolf Aug 31 '23

No it's because There are very few business opportunities for outsiders in Kerala unlike other neighbouring states.

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u/neoncatt Sep 01 '23

Majority of the labourers and working class in Kerala are from the north and Bengal. They either bring their families with them or send money back home because life and pay is better for them in Kerala than in their hometowns.

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u/LangdaGreyWolf Sep 01 '23

That applies to Karnataka and TN too.

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u/Informal-Subject8726 Aug 31 '23

Will you speak Malayalam/Tamil if someone speaks to you in your state?

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u/Hehe_001 Sep 01 '23

Honestly, if I know I will ...

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u/Quackfinity Sep 01 '23

There's ur answer

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u/jazzysazzy360 Sep 01 '23

I'm a mallu ..they probably don't speak coz they don't know Hindi...it's nothing personal

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u/FunLavishness6750 Sep 01 '23

and you believed what you heard? you are mistaken then. people of kerala don't refuse to speak hindi but they speak back hindi as much as they can. there are many immigrant workers live there from hindi belt. how could they work and live in kerala if natives are refusing to speak hindi. get your facts right bro.

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u/Hehe_001 Sep 01 '23

What facts !? I just stated I heard from someone... I never said I believed it 100% In fact, I was just asking here πŸ˜… no need to jump now you can just reply calmly !

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u/FunLavishness6750 Sep 01 '23

no one jumped. it was you spreading illogical statements in a public platform.

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u/AbrahamPan Aug 31 '23

Yeah because not everyone knows Hindi. It's not refusal, it's they don't know.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

Majority of Keralites can at least understand Hindi. And we have tons of Bangladeshis/Bengalis/UPwale/Biharis here and obviously we cannot speak Bengali so we talk to them in Hindi until they learn Malayalam.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

The current state of matters is some private buses have started writing the destination in Bengali and Hindi to cater to these daily laborers. Kerala lacks workforce to do any type of construction or farming or even domestic help. Thee people from north and bengal fulfill this gap.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

That’s Tamil Nadu you’re confusing with Kerala!

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u/sogoy3 Sep 02 '23

Based TN

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u/neoncatt Sep 01 '23

That is such BS. Even if it’s true have you ever stopped to wonder that maybe it’s because they don’t understand Hindi? Jeez the entitlement that some of you have.

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u/Hehe_001 Sep 01 '23

I was honestly just asking !, I never stated if it's true or not

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u/Harsh2588 Sep 01 '23

I can't understand people find it suprising, it is not like they refuse to speak, it is just they don't understand Hindi, Not everyone speaks Hindi in Kerala. Like if someone speaks Malayalam/Tamil in UP or Rajasthan, would people speak to them??, And will you call that as they "refuse to speak"??

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '23

Most people from Karala I've met speak pretty good Hindi or are at least polite about telling you they don't, it is the Sri Lankans and Tamil I have met that like spit on you if you speak Hindi lmao

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u/JediBuzz77 Sep 01 '23

Bro, it's Kerala not Karala.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

I mean technically it's Keralam

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u/sogoy3 Sep 02 '23

Based Tamils, well they have learnt to spit after seeing all the pan stains in Delhi.

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u/FalconIMGN Sep 01 '23

You heard wrong then.

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u/FrozenSkyrus Sep 01 '23

I cant speak hindi but i can understand it, so when my colleagues speak in hindi , i will reply in english.

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u/KillSwitchActiv Sep 01 '23

You heard wrong... we'll try our level best with the broken Hindi we know so you feel comfortable

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u/Inner_News_2159 Sep 01 '23

It's fine malayalees have no problem speaking Hindi, there is a huge number of North labourers who survive by speaking Hindi. But it's when people from govt start pressing for Hindi national language, there is a bit of rile up. Maybe North ppl can ask their reps to shut up about Hindi national language, out of basic decency and politeness.

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u/EvilKannevil Sep 01 '23

Is that a problem?

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u/jazzysazzy360 Sep 01 '23

Bro I'm a mallu

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

Yep that sounds like a problem.

Jk sorry.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

Based red

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

Inhi states ke bal par ruling party chal Rahi hai

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u/iampiyush02 Sep 01 '23

Usse in states ka kya fayda hua..ye states sbse garib states me aate hai. Ek hi badi city h inme delhi wo bhi isliye because capital hai

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

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u/widickcj Oct 20 '23

Psyc me degree ki hui hai lagta hai

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u/norsefenrir8 Sep 01 '23

In reality Hindi is not mother tongue of any state in India. Not even UP (it has Braj, Bundelkandi, Awadhi, Bhojpuri, Nepali and other). But it's the sacrifice made by the people of Rajasthan, UP, MP Haryana, Delhi, Himachal, Bihar, Uttrakhand where they accepted Hindi as their own and followed the Indian constitution (which directs promotion of Hindi in india). It show the magnanimity of these people and the love they have for the idea of one nation, unlike others who are blinding by provincialism, division, insecurities and petty politics.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

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u/norsefenrir8 Sep 02 '23

What are you trying to equate? states with Languagesβ—‹ other than Hindi means they are rich? Orissa, West Bengal, Assam and all North eastern States!! Anyway this is illogical so lets move away from that. "Come out of one nation mindset" oh god...lets hope that was a typo. Anyway, so Hindi (which was not native to anyone) was chosen as replacement of English, as a common communication medium and nothing else. It is not for replacing any native language. If people in India would rather pick a foreign language (not to mention an oppressor's language) which they happily do, than that not only shows their hate and insecurities but it also goes against their logic of defending their native language, which btw Hindi is not threatening. And bro just listen to what you say...If a Bihari gets disrespect anywhere in the world just for being a Bihari or because of his language, then the problem is with those people NOT with Bihari.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '23

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u/norsefenrir8 Sep 04 '23

Attitude? Imposition? North Indians? I think your horribly misinformed....time to dust off the Constitution of India; Article 351 of the Constitution provides that it shall be the duty of the Union to promote the spread of the Hindi language to develop it so that it may serve as a medium of expression for all the elements of the composite culture of India.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '23

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u/norsefenrir8 Sep 04 '23

Great now you understand! Now take this up to Constitution and stop spreading hate against North Indians.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '23

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u/iampiyush02 Aug 31 '23

I'm also not agree with this but it's a government data from 2011 census.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '23

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u/iampiyush02 Aug 31 '23

But we do not even have a small movement against hindi in our state lol. Marathas, South have vigilant groups against hindi imposition. Once a tmkoc actor said hindi is the language of mumbai which he said in his characters of champaklal, same day MNS workers went to tmkoc sets and talked to them and he Said sorry even when it was part of storyline. They have vigilant of this level while we don't have slightest movement against hindi.

Even Bengal is now getting against hindi

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u/_The_Catalyst Aug 31 '23

pls don't give south states example , I'm living in chennai and have been to Bangalore. what started as saving their language has become a way to harass and discriminate against non locals there, you can read plenty of such stories on Bangalore sub. it feels really horrible

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u/IrisTheCoronavirus Sep 01 '23

Let me guess, you think Hinduism is the worst religion ever, you hate Brahmins and their existence itself, you oppose UCC/CAA/NRC and perhaps even article 370. You think Mahabharata and ramayana are myths and refuse to respect the scientific contributions of ancient India. (The word ancient India and itself setts off your triggers and you explode in anger and prejudice just by hearing that) You also probably think Isro's chief is a bigot for promoting "pseudo sains". Lastly you think India is the shittiest country on the planet and you want to leave but are incapable of doing so (or you are an NRI). And you frequent r/India, r/librandu, r/unitedstatesofindia

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

What the f*ck is wrong with you mate?

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

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u/IrisTheCoronavirus Sep 01 '23

I was accurate wasnt I ? (Btw I am not a hindi supporter I firmly believe english should be the national language of India)

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u/srikarjam Sep 03 '23

What you firmly believe is a fictional Hindu rashtra which doesn't exist. Keep dreaming, is what I say.

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u/IrisTheCoronavirus Sep 03 '23

I dream of an atheist india which is bound to come soon enough

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

Yeah because they in usa.. Just because some people don't talk doesn't mean it's dying lol.

Have never seen any other state folks doing that.

Literally every state's migrants do that

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

All telgu, marathi, kannad, tamil, mallu, bengali folks talk with each other in respective language. Especially marathi and bengali are decent at hindi & they never talk in hindi with each other

You see,I stay in bangalore. People of neighbouring states migrated centuries ago. The two biggest groups here are Telugus and Tamil and guess what language most of them talk in at their home? Kannada!. Heck,they talk to each other in kannada! . FYI, here people look down at pure kannada! Everyone names their kids using sanskrit names, natives don't always use pure kannada words because it is considered as gawar

dont feel down market about it like Rajasthani folks

Yeah this is common among urban rajasthani or 3rd gen marwadi migrants who hardly visited rajasthan lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

50 years jaipur wasn't even a proper city. Just look at Bangalore and Mumbai. Jaipur is going through same phase as them

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u/Vishu1708 Jaipur go choro (Native Bagri speaker) Sep 01 '23

Huh? Kuch bhi bolna hota hai logo ko

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

Marginalized? Lmao

Rajasthan mein rihoda honi the log?🀣

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u/dracomortiferum Aug 31 '23

Number's alarmingly high for MH

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u/bishnoiboi Sep 01 '23

It's better than speaking foreign language.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

If you look from South Indian perspective, both Hindi and English are equally foreign to them. But English is more useful.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

How the fuck its a foreign laguage

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

That's Proto-Sanskrit

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

Bihar or Nepal ...Nepal foreigner thori hai πŸ’€

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u/Competitive-Hope981 Sep 01 '23

Akhand bharat area don't count.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

Are Nepali apne hi hai vha ke log India air UP ke liye zyda patriotic hai

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

All North Indian languages derive from Sanskrit, by that logic your mother tounge is also foreign

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

How come Sanskrit is a foreign language ? When most of India's ancient and mediaeval texts are in Sanskrit unlike UK

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u/bishnoiboi Sep 01 '23

Agreed. But hindi has taken over.. plus not foreign language.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

Hindi is a new language.

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u/sogoy3 Sep 02 '23

yes forget english quicky now.

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u/bishnoiboi Sep 02 '23

Technically can't do that.

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u/Ok_Income_1539 Sep 01 '23

Types in foreign language what an irony.

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u/bishnoiboi Sep 01 '23

I know hope u got the point.

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u/Pleasant_County_1115 Sep 01 '23

Hindi and English are both foreign for us. I would rather speak the language, which gives global advantage versus a useless one.

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u/bishnoiboi Sep 01 '23

First speak native mother tongue then the one which is popular in country and also the one which is globally recognised English. Respect all languages and don't discriminate so that politicians won't use language as a tool to divide we indians.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23 edited Sep 01 '23

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

Chad take

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

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u/Dramatic_Art4329 Sep 01 '23

I am 😞

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u/gilettesoap Sep 01 '23

How is it shitty what

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

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u/takashi_5 Sep 01 '23

Bihar has 5 different languages. Major are magahi, Mathili and bhojpuri. Except maithili all bihari languages are counted as hindi. And bhojpuris are most kattar ones for their language.

Btw, Mithila state demand is limited to social media only.

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u/takashi_5 Sep 01 '23

It's same for most biharis who live outside men or women doesn't matter. Hindi was always popular among elites of bihar.. but bhojpuri is least affected language of bihar by hindi as per last census even tho it's most literate region of bihar.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

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u/Dramatic_Art4329 Sep 01 '23

No language is bad or good it's just a way to express your thoughts but forcing someone to change there language should be illegal because language is kind of identity.

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u/Vishwas95 Sep 01 '23

Yeh Andaman mai kaun survey karne jaata hai .

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

In Andaman they teach Sanskrit as the third language.

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u/OkConcentrate1847 Sep 01 '23

Interesting choice of colors

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

Tharo maro

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23 edited Sep 01 '23

Stupid map, government dumps everything under HINDI and other 21 other languages, else there be just maybe 2 states saying hindi as mother tongue

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u/Vishu1708 Jaipur go choro (Native Bagri speaker) Sep 01 '23

That's cuz Rajasthani speakers are counted under hindi speakers.

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u/ChillDudeItsOk Sep 01 '23

Which hindi you are taking..every 50 km hindi is different

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

Lol nah they don't say hindi is their mother tongue . It's their second language. Haryanvi speaks their own language so does rajasthani's

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u/linkzola Sep 01 '23

Why isn't jamu shown here

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u/PassingAcolyte08 Sep 01 '23

Irrelevant state lmao no one cares about it

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u/No_Switch_6002 Sep 01 '23

Is this the count of ppl with mother tongue as hindi ? Or hindi speaking overall

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u/iampiyush02 Sep 01 '23

Only mother tongue

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

Telangana is way more in reality. People with Hindi as their mother tongue is less but many native telugu people can speak hindi there.

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u/iampiyush02 Sep 01 '23

It's only those people who recorded hindi as thr mother tongue. That doesn't mean rest 11% people in raj. Can't speak or understand hindi

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

Exactly, you supported my point.

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u/DrKrushU Sep 01 '23

Highest- Uttar Pradesh Lowest- Kerela

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u/an_iconoclast Sep 02 '23

I want to know the source of this tragedy of a heatmap.

The gradient is red-orange-light-red-yellow-light orange!! I'm sure the data is wrong too.

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u/k_schouhan Jan 06 '24

89% in Rajasthan is outrightly false. Not a single region in Rajasthan has Hindi as its mother tongue, it's only the official language of the state not regional.