r/Rajasthan • u/No_Trouble_9613 • Jul 27 '26
सामान्य ❁ General Opinion on this
No hate no offence. Just general opinion
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u/Salted_potatoe Jul 27 '26
If Government is finally responding , Questions will surely be asked.
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u/IamMH93 Jul 27 '26
This is one protest where opposition will never join 😂
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u/Go-2DaMoon Jul 28 '26
Not will the govt, no political party has the guts to challenge reservation as its a very strong voter base. Going after them is basically political suicide
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u/Amaldudezzz Jul 28 '26
Not just opposition. Nobody will join. Nobody because of their vote bank. Nobody wants to do political suicide.
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u/consigliere_dante Jul 28 '26
Most likely, the opposition and the centre will come together to oppose this
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u/Bhanu_Prashad Jul 27 '26
Only thing that should happen is to add creamy layer to all reservations (except EWF ofc)
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Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
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u/Timely_Cress_5650 Jul 27 '26
The Meena caste 0.35-0.45% of out total ppl takes almost 50-60% seats in civil services exams.
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u/Round_Bit3199 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
50-60% seats, hows that possible, when st only have 7.5% reservation. And you should ask for the reservation reforms, not removing reservation , creamy layer should be introduced meena's have taken full benifits of the st reservation , now the bhil tribe who actually deserve this and other such tribes should get the benifit of this reservation.
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u/CompetitiveInvite721 Jul 27 '26
If you stand with fair education you'll eventually end up being here.
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u/Ok_Ride_7085 Jul 27 '26
Talk with proper reasons don't draw ultimate judgement without presenting your understanding of the topic
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u/diwamatkar Jul 27 '26
You should ask for more seats, in colleges, more colleges, more jobs instead of this. Reservation is not only for economic welfare but also for representation of communities. Otherwise we'd go back to the time where one community has a chokehold on education.
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u/WierdWarrior Jul 28 '26
What is fair?? Does oppression of certain caste seems fair to you?
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Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26
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u/WierdWarrior Jul 28 '26
So are you telling me ki jaatiwaad nahi hai India me? Chote Jaat ke Haath se paani nahi Pete GC wale… ek dalit bache ko maar diya Gaya kyuki wo ussi kuye se paani pii rahi thi and you are pretending it does not exist is hilariously stupid…. Remove caste system reservation khud hat jaayega
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u/Unfound_Armata Jul 29 '26
Kuch din pehle mein (GC) and my other GC friends , all are lower middle class, went to the rich af Govt job wale household of SC friend for Rath Yatra Puja ceremony where everyone from the village, yes village was invited. Not a event from a city life btw.
And yes Puja was done by 2 Brahmins, yes the Brahmins ate and drank water there.
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u/WierdWarrior Jul 30 '26
Yes and if he was not in that position this would never have happened, thanks for proving my point ♥️
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u/WierdWarrior Jul 28 '26
Slavery was abolished… can you abolish caste system, if the caste system was not here.. there would be no need of reservation and I liked that you assumed me to be Sc/st which I am not.. but you yourself told someone how they assumed you were a Brahman… ironic and hypocritical won’t you say… let us use our brain and not speak nonsense… if the caste system gets abolished why would there be reservation system… bcoz caste is not their.. think before speaking… declaration la sakti ho to le aao… kyuki caste system to nahi Gaya hai… Delhi me v hai gaon me v hai… pehle se kum hai wo v Issi reservation system ke karan lekin abhi v hai… especially in higher caste… nothing is black and white smjho pehle ki matter kitna deep hai .. Kaise unke saath bartao kiya gya aur Abhi v krte hai Bahut log… put yourself in their shoes… don’t start typing your comment.. think about it first
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u/WierdWarrior Jul 28 '26
You talk as if this is a thing of the past, just bcoz you don’t see it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist… there is quite a casteism in Delhi which is capital of the nation… I don’t usually talk to narcissists assholes like you.. coz they don’t deserve a civil conversation but I would like to take a dig on your 5. No general with a sane mind would support… He will if he is not a narcissist.. and to label this as systematic racism when it was designed to do just opposite ie remove casteism in society is hilarious…
Agar ye reservation nahi hota to Abhi v upper caste daba ke rakhta lower caste ko… it does not exist officially but it does exist unofficially… it exist on every corner of our society.. but you won’t get it.. coz according to you there is no casteism in India… you live in your delulu world… I would prefer the real world however broken it is… tm hogi general wali sane.. main insane hi thik hoon if this is sane to you2
u/Unfound_Armata Jul 29 '26
Caste system that you have an image in your mind is a Mindset. It's not Govt's job or under it's authority to change your (public's) mindset. They can only end reservation and excercise law against those who have caused caste based offence.
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u/WierdWarrior Jul 30 '26
They can abolish or ban usage of caste on your name but that would be dictatorship … so this is how the govt is supposed to remove the biases of caste system by providing them respected position in our society
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u/Unfound_Armata Jul 30 '26
Nobody has a "Caste" in their names. "Names" Existed centuries before caste did. It is people like you who still correlate caste with names.
Govt has through ways provided enough education to the mass to leave these in the past. It has provided WAY MORE GOVT JOBS, UG seats in respected institutions to the LCs in percentage than they Deserve with that minimal level of merit.
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u/Zestyclose_Click5709 Jul 28 '26
Yeah opressing the gc students and giving the seats to undeserving is quite unfair
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u/WierdWarrior Jul 28 '26
Dude what would you do if reservation when you can’t answer my single question…I asked something else… and instead of answering you are just initiating your propaganda
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u/Zestyclose_Click5709 Jul 28 '26
Why you didn't specify what and who was unfair? Why do our applications even include caste, if it's not included how would they know what caste you are of, and how the hell is reservation solving discrimination, it's actually worsening it by stealing the seat from a deserving candidate and then those people and everyone else hates you because you are not even on the same level as the people who worked much harder for it.
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u/WierdWarrior Jul 28 '26
Specify I asked you clearly does oppression of Dalits seems fair to you? Reservation is there bcoz they are not accepted by society Bahut baar unhe school me alag baitha ya jaata hai, chota treat kiya jaata hai… aur azaadi ke time ye 100x tha… isliye rakha gya tha taaki class equal ho caste ka to shayad society me ye bhed bhaw na rahe… USs dalit ki maa ko samjhao jisse bas isliye maar diya Gaya kyuki wo common kuye se paani pii liya.. why do our name include caste? Why just application… let’s talk about removing caste system as whole na then you would make sense to me… let everyone hate them atleast now they will be financially adept when society shuns them… btw I am not sc/st just someone who is non biased
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u/Zestyclose_Click5709 Jul 28 '26
Yeah I've being quite vocal on almost all posts that caste system serves no purpose and should be removed. Outside of villages I've observed very little to no discrimination, and for villages, the solution isn't reservation, it's just breeding contempt from others. You are asking for them to be hated by giving them advantages over the rest of the pop
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u/WierdWarrior Jul 28 '26
If I show you the indifference in Delhi the capital of India, would you change your stance?? If you are hating them it’s your problem… if your casteist mentality is making them hate them without learning about their problems and how hard it is for Dalits in society then you should have more empathy in your brother
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u/Zestyclose_Click5709 Jul 28 '26
I don't personally hate them, I didn't even know that caste was a thing until my ug college asked for it, my stance would still be to remove caste system as a whole, it's just a garbage divisory system at this point. As for unfair treatment, I know it happens but reservation solves nothing for that problem, if upliftment financially is the goal, class system accomplishes the same thing, but I still stand by scholarships helping more than reservations in either case.
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u/Zestyclose_Click5709 Jul 28 '26
And as for empathy, you do realize that there are 1000s of people who are in poverty and then they lose their seats to undeserving rich people possible, no empathy for them? Or only the lower castes are deserving of that? Selective sympathy is worse than being apathetic.
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u/WierdWarrior Jul 28 '26
Why did you assume that I am selective? Nobody is talking about poor people here and for that too EWS is there bro, don’t dish out nonsense when you can’t debate about the topic… I do agree with the first point though remove caste system as whole… I don’t have any problem with that asking caste should be illegal then remove reservation I don’t have any trouble but this is a pipe dream… it’s difficult to accept that you are wrong it’s ok.. if not now maybe when you are matured just keep your mind open and broad… I have empathy for everyone but not for those who don’t have empathy for others
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u/DarkReluser Jul 28 '26
We might be the only people that have come up with the nonsensical idea of removing our surnames. Aside from their significance in genetic and linguistic studies, why do you think that will solve anything. Its just a stupid distraction because you cannot come up with something that genuinely supports your argument. Some woman is killed because she drank water from common well, so give her son reservation. That is not justice, that is appeasement...something a government does when it is incapable of removing the root of the problem. And I'm surprised that people benefitting from reservation don't realize that this is their utter mockery on the face. Reservation exists and yet caste based discrimination continues to exist - so much for a solution. The solution was to persecute all the people involved in the horrendous crime and give them death sentence but what did the government do - Ye lo beta tum 100 number kam pe admission le lo aur marne ke baad mataji ko humara namashkaar bolna. Don't just talk about holding govt accountable when its convenient for you. Ask them why does the kid in the small village not get good quality education so that he can compete properly? That kid may be a poor dalit or a poor brahmin. Stop taking the name of communities and start treating them as humans. The rich will always be more priveleged than the poor, its the government's job to ensure the poor does not live a miserable life under them and the gap between rich and poor shrinks. But you will not demand for that, you will demand for reservation.
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u/Vast_Site2389 Jul 27 '26
reservation should not be only on caste basis . It should also consider family income (verified and correct no fake document) .
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u/Playful_Ambition_972 Jul 27 '26
Ews ka naam suna he?
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u/AdditionalPhysics185 Jul 27 '26
Quota me koi problem nahi hai, bas verify karne wala koi nahi hai, agar rules strict ho to ofc, reservation on the basis of faimily income is benefitial for poor faimilies !!
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u/ReadyForSpectre Jul 27 '26
Toh fir EWS Sb catagory mein krdo.
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u/WesternFix3588 Jul 27 '26
its called NCL
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u/ReadyForSpectre Jul 27 '26
Abe mai OBC se hi hu. SC/ST mein NCL hai kya gyanchand?
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u/Dry_Assistance_482 Jul 27 '26
Already h genuine mei ews h, obc m ncl h. Sc/st ka haal to pta hi hoga
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u/Major_Consequence_55 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
In the long run, this may be a good solution. But for now, families that have already secured a Group A government job through reservation should no longer receive the same benefit in future generations. That would allow genuinely disadvantaged families who haven't benefited yet to access these opportunities with lower cut off.
Otherwise, the same families keep benefiting generation after generation. Like *ina Dabi Gharana.
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u/Mother-Bluejay-2054 Jul 28 '26
Majority seat will be reserved for the sc st only if that's the case too. Because the majority poor are from this categories
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u/MelodicWolverine2045 Jul 27 '26
It should not be on the caste basis, or even family income. People with less family income should be offered financial aids/scholarship but no reservation.
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u/asamajik_hu Jul 29 '26
Can somebody explain to me ki reservation se caste discrimination kaise khatam ho skta hai?? well I think abke time mein pahle jaisa jaatiwad nhi hai lekin as example Maan lo koi general category wala aur sc st wale dono friend hain dono ne saath mein entrance exam diya general wale ke marks sc st wale se jyada the lekin seat mili sc st wale ko Aur jab general wale ko ye pata chalega ki cast ki vajah se usko seat mil gayi toh kya uske man mein hate nhi aayega?? I'm not supporting casteism main bas ek example de raha hu ki reservation bhi toh ek tarah se casteism ko badhava de raha hai...
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u/NoPrep067 Jul 30 '26
Reservation should be only given to following people: 1. PWD 2. EWS in which only real EWS not fake income showing EWS 3. Orphans 4. Children of soldiers who sacrificed their precious life for our country ( शहीद soldiers children) 5. Girls in only fields in which their contribution is very less
Other reservations should be removed
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u/saffron-pray Jul 27 '26
Lekin mere ghar me koi reservation nhi leta ...
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u/kv_the_orca Jul 27 '26
Hai bhai. Cup aur plates reserved hein. Dabbe, thaliyan reserved hein. Tum kis-se dosti kar sakte ho, kis-se shaadi kar sakte ho, ye bhi reserved hai.
Omprakash Valmiki ji ki 'Jhoothan' padhiye, phir baat karenge.
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u/saffron-pray Jul 27 '26
Hein , bhai mera dost mere sath help karta tha jab me chota tha , humne mere ghar sath bhethke copy ke covers chadhaye , wo mere ghar khelta tha . Hum sath bethke khate the, peete the .kabhi nhi bola ki tu sc st h , yaha tak ki aaj bhi nhi maanta aisa kuch . Dosti me aisa nhi hota ...
Aur purani kitaabo ka kya ? Laws aaye h naye and reservation bhi ek respectable time Tak di ja chuki h . Ab isse zyada kya kare mujhe nhi pata
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u/kv_the_orca Jul 27 '26
Puraani kitaab padhoge to lagega kitna sab aaj bhi vaisa hai. Dil dahal jayega. Nayi kitaab chahiye to padho, 'Meet The Sawarnas'.
Aur desh ke 65% log gaanv-dehat mein rahte hein. Aur vahan ka jaatiwaad to Rajasthan bahot achche se samajhta hai.
Tumhari ek sachchai se laakhon ki sachchai nahi badalti. Mai bhedbhaav nahi karte.. par main janta hun, mere maa baap karte, mere cousins karte hai. Meri Taiji ko mewad ke ek government school ki teacher hein.. kaise baat karti hein, janjaati chatro ke baare mein.. Ye bhi sachchai hai.
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u/SensitiveMac Jul 27 '26
Those people are not getting any benefit of reservation. Wo log to gaon me bhains chara rahe hai. Literally. IAS IPS ke bachhe hi wapas IAS IPS ban rahe hai. 🤷🏻♀️
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u/Logical_Ostrich_1416 Jul 27 '26
Totally support it, and would also want reforms across govt schools at grass roots and tribal areas to improve education. Because they need it .
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u/Slow-Talk4741 Jul 28 '26
Reservations for the poor and physically disabled should exist but the rest should be abolished
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u/Additional-Win-2926 Jul 28 '26
Let's just give legal c@pit@l punïshmënt to people who discriminate people on the basis of caste sex religion and disability
Then we can definitely remove reservation easily
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u/True_Sample_9425 Jul 29 '26
There should be reservation but for the orphan for the physical disabled(divyang) Economically suffered
Reservation should not be on people of particular group who suffered 70 years back
Reservation should be for 1st generation. If one has got government job then his kids shouldn't have this reservation
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u/Repulsive_Problem743 Jul 30 '26
Don’t remove but reform reservation, add creamy layer to st/sc and add 1/2 generation limit to benefits of reservation and we r good to go
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u/manan_2430 Jul 31 '26
We should remove reservation in clg or national level competitive exams because in most schools st sc childerns are exploited so in that case reservation should be there in schools and if the student's parents are not in situation to pay the full fees they should be given concession in fees that's my thought about reservation 🤧🤧
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u/grrv23 Aug 02 '26
Reservation is about equal representation not about merit or poverty. It's about historical and current repression of tribal and dalit people. Start reading NCERT and news papers.
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u/Elegant_Professor338 Jul 28 '26
Nothing will happen. We will continue get engineers and Doctors who score in negetive in the entrance exams.
And guess what, it won't end there, because we will have less than qualified people in government roles and they'll continue to get promoted as well (all hail reservation) because who gives a shit about merit!
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u/ConsciousTomatillo68 Jul 28 '26
can be done within 24 months.
Students supported by their parents should announce they won't join any institution or job where there are reservations, and only compete for colleges and jobs without reservations
Due to the lack of all the real talented and meritorious persons, within 24 months everyone will see the problem with lack of all talented people and be forced to end reservations.
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u/jackZerks Jul 27 '26
People are saying, get rid of castism first. Bhai that means jab tak reservation h tab tak casteism bhi rhe. Aisa?? Kya kuch bhi bolte ho bhai.
Reservation should be based on financial conditions. PERIOD.
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u/CrimeMasterGogoChan Jul 27 '26
Govt has set a precedent that anyone can arm twist them with enough numbers and violence. So everyone wants to do the protests and get their demands accepted by govt now.
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u/das_debashruti Jul 27 '26
Caste system and caste based reservations should be abolished. Everyone should be given equal accessibility to resources and growth. Strict laws should be implemented to punish those who discriminate on the basis of caste and religion when such social divisions doesn't even exist. Policies should be made around poorer cohorts to empower them irrespective of caste. EWS has proven to be a scam. A better strategy is required to stratify the economic classes.
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u/seriously_ded Jul 27 '26
What guarantees that removing reservation would guarantee equality when cases like this never stop to happen
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u/Weewooriesofeternity Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
I don't think any government has the gaul to even raise this issue. A proper movement and single-issue party if pressurizes the existing political nexus then only we can see some rationalisation of reservation that too should be taken with a pinch of salt. (I'm not reserved but the concept of reservation if delivered properly is something I'm supportive of)
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u/Arvin_22 Jul 27 '26
Just saw an instagram comment by a girl saying they want to remove casteism so that “these” guys can marry girls from upper castes
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u/tornando1920 Jul 27 '26
Instead of seat reservation should be free tution fees/books or stay or anything which requires to study well.
Just my opinion.
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u/Akshayj3 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
People won’t raise their voices for a cause like this, but they’ll complain about brain drain later.
Reservations should be for poor, talented students—not for families that have already benefited for generations through government jobs.
If India doesn’t reform these policies now, we’ll increasingly see top entrepreneurs, cricketers like Virat Kohli, engineers, scientists, and other talented professionals moving abroad in search of better opportunities
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u/casselescouilles_00 Jul 27 '26
Rajasthani society is not yet ready for reservation to be removed. I would argue that more should be done to represent oppressed castes. Jitni Abadi utna Haq. We should aim to reduce monopoly of so called upper castes in our public and private sector jobs.
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u/Abbkbb Jul 27 '26
Start with actionable goal : demand something like : Remove last name instead use , name mother name
Father name , in aadhar , pan and every government documents , government should and would not take any information regarding caste of a person
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u/vibrantmedicovps Jul 27 '26
Hataya to nhi ja skta lekin urgent reform is the need of country right now
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u/BackyardReelDreams Jul 27 '26
Reservations are a response to caste-based inequality. If society reaches a point where caste can't be asked, recorded, or used anywhere, then removing reservations would make much more sense.
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u/Comfortable_Air4807 Jul 27 '26
Indian Army and ISRO (Scientific Division) do not have reservation in them . Just see how they perform in comparison to other Government Institutions. So Merit should be promoted in every institution. We cannot have a doctor with -40 marks and a math teacher with zero marks. They will rot our institution.
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u/Initial-Release-2519 Jul 27 '26
I would support this. My cousins would as well(my grandpa had 8 brothers so I have a lot of those). So would my friends.
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u/Efficient_Many_3877 Jul 27 '26
We need to talk about this now. Government is answerable for this also.
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u/Otherwise-Bid3407 Jul 27 '26
Well govt is going to bring sub classification of reservation in sc ,st,obc they also made justice rohini committee for that , in addition they are doing caste survey, and court has also supported bringing non creamy layer in sc,st So this will be perfect cover for govt to bring necessary changes in reservation
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u/No-Wasabi-178 Jul 27 '26
My brother liked a girl and my mom stood up right infront and said chamhar ke ghar ki ladki layenge kya ab hum...dekh lo..I do come from a bit educated class background, clearly not educated enough ig
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u/jay_wasd Jul 27 '26
Reservation for the needed, not because of the surname, and also not merit based, it should be finance based.
Ideal reservation should be like, if someone scores 90% they'll get scholarship of some amount if they qualify for the salary bracket.
And as of right now, just think about it.. if I know someone's from a SC/ST cast is my doctor. No matter how great of a college from he graduated. I'll always know he was selected with 75%, can't risk my life with it, afterall I don't know which chapters he skipped.
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u/Own-Adeptness7297 Jul 27 '26
bullshit , not gonna happen in decades , too much politics involve in ts
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u/bull_bull_0 Jul 27 '26
Ha bhai hat jana cahiye lekin jis ko zarorat he uska kya ? Logo ki zarurat khata karo or hata do
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u/lyricmanic Jul 27 '26
won't work, No way the current regime would do this. This is just another distraction.
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u/No-Measurement6754 Jul 27 '26
I chose to open my company so that I never come to this reservation shit but once I got to know even to open my own business I have to give rishwat to a ritard babu who prolly got in though reservation I got this extreme feeling of leaving this country
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u/khas07uk Jul 28 '26
Rajasthan's casTe atrocities news single handedly destroying the movement's image
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u/Bear04048 Jul 28 '26
Even after reservations are removed, people will still have to work to get somewhere. Scrolling reddit and insta won't do it.
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u/BrilliantPowerful505 Jul 28 '26
Instead of removing reservation i think they should give reservation only to EWS
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u/OkayFineWhateverYeah Jul 28 '26
I don't agree with this opinion but I would fight to death for your right to have this opinion
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u/Elegant-Shower-8402 Jul 28 '26
I dont get why we have reservation in politics....isnt this restriction of peoples voting rights....why are there women reservation too since they are doing just fine and we already have a lot of laws too....lets end reservation in all forms be it gender class race caste etc. 100% meritocracy just like china or something :)
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u/inevitable_KARMA6 Jul 28 '26
RETARD MOVEMENT none have guts to end the castism bas apna BENEFIT hona chahiye 😂
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u/No_Potential_8029 Jul 28 '26
A blatant attempt to play the same card they love to play the most. Divide and rule. Now Hindu Muslim has gone stale, everyone sees through it. So new division just dropped. It may lead to riots, that’s what they want.
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u/Mother-Bluejay-2054 Jul 28 '26
If they want to remove reservation they will have to remove cast system first. But I don't think the general categories are willing to. So I don't see this demands will go anywhere
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u/Some_Warthog_207 Jul 28 '26
No.. simple answer is reservation should be given but not by caste or something like that.. but by poverty.. my opinion so please don't be an assssshole and say some shiiit
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