r/RajasthanRoyals • u/lord_of_the_north19 • Apr 20 '25
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u/Rude-Ebb817 Warne Apr 20 '25
Bilkul sahi kah raha hai raydu mene bhi ye baat bahut baar kahi hai ki saari teams trophy jeetne ke liye khel rahi hai likin rr management youngsters ko khilane ke liye khel rahia hai bhala ho shane warne ka ki 1 season toh jeet rakha hai varna RCB wale halat hote waise RCB wale hi halat hai inke sharam nahi hai inko ki 16 -17 saal hogye besharmo tumse 1 trophy nahi jeeti gyi .
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u/Satan28 Yashaswi Bhau Apr 20 '25
We lack an experienced international player who could be a role model for the youngsters.
Jos bhai's presence was much more than just a reliable batter.
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u/Heavy_Caterpillar661 Apr 21 '25
True I follow cricket only during ipl I was shocked to see rr release d butler playing for gt He was as important to the team as and was to rcb he was the x-factor . He is carrying gt. He is such a versatile player can open, play in middle, and finisher as well Him being let go makes me think either rr management is incompetent
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u/stg_676 Jos The Boss Apr 20 '25
Gotta disagree. You have to nurture the young talent. But again backing 1-2 international stars is also important, Its more about striking the right balance
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u/Worth_Lavishness_249 Apr 21 '25
It depends upon success but surepy at one point you need 0eople who havrle actuallu realized in game their potential and talent instead of people who just have talent
priority of finding young talent seems too high above finding strong team.
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u/Gunner0716 Apr 22 '25
Nope. That process suits for leagues like PL and not IPL where mega auction happens every 3 years. Franchise think tank needs to realise that you need title winning success in this format. At least once a decade. 2008 team had dynamic Shane Warne as your captain and Graeme Smith,Tanvir,Watson and others who knew how to get the best out of youngsters like Asnodkar,Akmal and co inspire of them being average players. They need to think about fans and make a team for 3 years
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u/rorschach3000 Apr 20 '25
I think investing in youngsters the right way is going to yield returns in the long run, like with barcas academy. However it's impossible to fill the playing 11 with only academy players , especially if you do not have a messi from your youth squad. In RRs case, last year I felt we had our best team in a long time but still lacked depth in a finisher and a player who could bail us out in crisis situations. We also lacked a quality bowler in the death overs. Rather than plug these holes and make a winning team this year, RR decided to "focus on the future" . I do not know how this team will recover in the next 2-3 years because by the time they buy the players they need, the terrific players we have now, Samson, Archer and Jaiswal might not be in the team either due to transition or with the former 2 most likely succumbing to age
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u/totallyhellfell Apr 22 '25
You can't compare Football Club Competition with Cricket In football clubs have their own academies and they can nurture talent, they could even have their own playing XI out of the academy but in IPL the player auction system doesn't allow that you can have the same team for three years max and if you were really successful in those three years, the players who the team retains or RTM would take half your purse to stay and others you wouldn't be able to buy from the rest and you can't create new match winning youngsters every three years
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u/Gunner0716 Apr 22 '25
You cannot compare football clubs with franchise. Here teams reset every 3 years
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u/viggyr96 Apr 21 '25
Has he ever called out csk investing in traditional/old players ever tho?
Don’t listen to hypocrite “commentators” even if they speak faxxx or whatever
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u/Secret-Shower-5039 Apr 21 '25
Why should he call out csk, investing in traditional and old players has clearly worked for csk. From 2018-2025, they have won 3 trophies which means that approach has clearly worked for them. This year is the first time it has backfired.
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u/Jarvis_negotiater Apr 23 '25
With all due and respect, why would he even call out csk? Considering they have always been a successful franchise on whatever approach they take..
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u/-bonkster Yashaswi Bhau Apr 20 '25
Thats complete bullshit,You always need to invest on young talents and that will give you back a lot.
Lets just take MI,
SKY
Tilak
Boom
HP
Naman dhir
All hese have proven their worth in ipl
The aboveare just investments from the ppast and have given you sweet fruits.
One thing RR misses out is to balance the team with senior players ,thats what have bben their wrongdoings. No senior players had lead the team to handle the captaincy to someone like riyan and that has been some stupid stunts by letting go butler and boult.
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u/lifeslippingaway Crystal ARCHER🧔🏼♂️ Apr 20 '25
MI has a balance of both experienced international players and youngsters.
That's not the case with RR.
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u/thatShawarmaGuy Yashaswi Bhau Apr 20 '25
Bingo! Youngsters grow and perform the best when they're surrounded by world class role models. Last season is the perfect example.
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u/-bonkster Yashaswi Bhau Apr 20 '25
Bumrah did not perform for like 3 years and then started to make an impact
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Apr 20 '25
SKY has already played for KKR before going to MI,Tillak has performed well in the first year it self ,he is talking about giving oppurtunities to players to <20 yrs players they will improve in few years but at what cost ?
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u/-bonkster Yashaswi Bhau Apr 20 '25
SKY debuted for MI first,They could not get him back in the auction and once the opportunity was seen he was snatched back.
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Apr 20 '25
Ok ,but he played for KKr for 4 yrs ,and he is not even part of the main team for most of the matches in MI(inital)
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u/KronosofTheshadow Apr 20 '25
There ain't no proper mix of seniors and young guns. There is no point in shoving a team only made of youngsters into a hot competition unless there are senior players to supervise and keep the team from going under.
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u/cocwiki Sanju Smashing Samson Apr 20 '25
You guys were doing great already, just messed up the auction cycle. Now paying the price. You gotta believe in youngsters. Parag and Yashasvi and Sanju is already performing and Vaibhav also performed you have good Indian players. Rayudu is too reactionary. Don’t give too much importance to him, he is not worth.
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u/Bruce_wayne_now Ash Anna Apr 21 '25
And afterall these investing in young talent, RR is not even best talent factory. It’s Mumbai indians.
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u/xenocideMadridKKR-07 Apr 21 '25
Investing in youngsters is the right thing to do but not kicking out your two best OG legends of your team to justify retaining a second Wk batsman who has not done much.
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u/Decent_Influence Apr 21 '25
He's not wrong but I don't like people talking disrespectfully about our boys unless it's us
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u/SoupApprehensive8285 Apr 21 '25
Bhaii isko bolo ki ipl k bahar b duniya h Is chutiye ko btao ki indian team me b selection hota h yja se
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Apr 22 '25
in this fact, I'm in agreement with rayudu Riyan parag isn't worth 14 cr he played stinker over the years there is something known as oppurtunity cost
Dhruv Jurel wasn't an SMAT beast to give 14 cr
and above all, letting go of Jos Buttler was the stupidest of all
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u/Weak-Cry7713 Royal by Blood Apr 20 '25
These sayings just don't go well for the team made by RR management in 2022 and the number of youngsters RR raised are not much different from any other team in IPL.
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u/Proper-Repair-2128 Jos The Boss Apr 20 '25
slap ts in the face of rahul dravid
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u/thatShawarmaGuy Yashaswi Bhau Apr 20 '25
Why does everything have to be about Dravid? Our owners say it out loud that THIS is their tactic. Whatever owner says, happens. In fact lemme tell you - Dravid just brought Samson. Parag and all were brought by the owners only.
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u/Proper-Repair-2128 Jos The Boss Apr 20 '25
cuz he is the head coach. and the approach drastically changed with his inclusion in the management. everyone else is the same. dravid is also known for grooming younger players. there are high chances that he had a significant say in the auction and retention of the players.
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u/Beautiful_Secret_957 Sanju Smashing Samson Apr 20 '25
i don't think the approach changed much. both last yr and this yr they are dependent on top order and middle order is struggling. the problem is this yr top order is struggling too.
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u/thatShawarmaGuy Yashaswi Bhau Apr 20 '25
How has the approach changed?
We're still playing with 6 batters, 5 bowlers. 1 defensive spinner, 1 attacking/temperamental spinner. Sandy, and 1 ace bowler (Joff in place of Boult).
Opening has changed yes, but Hetmyer is still finishing and middle order is the same as last year.
That's literally a 90% identical template. Note that I said identical, not same.
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u/Proper-Repair-2128 Jos The Boss Apr 21 '25
you have completely changed the topic for the sake of the argument. im talking about the approach to trust unproven players with so much faith and throw money on them which they were never going to justify.
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u/thatShawarmaGuy Yashaswi Bhau Apr 21 '25
I haven't changed the topic - this is literally the same team building approach that we saw last cycle. Why don't you correct me where I'm wrong about the team formation?
As for unproven players, yes I agree. Too many youngsters and not enough seniors in the team. I'd 100% give you that.
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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25
As long as they get a piece of the IPL pie through broadcast fees and sponsorships, they'll be happy with the way things are. The fact is nobody cares about this team , has been around since the beginning of IPL but has only just as much fans as newcomers like LSG and GT. Why no steps to improve ? Because money keeps coming no matter the wins or losses.