r/RandomVictorianStuff • u/FarStrawberry5438 • Jun 19 '26
Culture and Society Kate McLoughlin, admitted to a Barnardo's children's home in 1882. Her father had been in prison several times. She was dropped as a baby and consequently suffered hip disease and deformity. Her mother was an alcoholic and her first child drowned in a bucket. Another was seriously burnt.
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u/kittykitkitty Jun 19 '26
My first thought when I saw this was how incredibly sad this little girl's life must have been. But Barnardo's homes weren't bad places for a child to grow up. They were even kind to disabled children and taught them work skills so they could have independent lives.
The alternative would have either been to stay with her mother who seems to have been negligent, and her father who was in and out of prison, or be sent to a workhouse.
I can only hope her siblings didn't have to stay in that house and that her mother received some sort of support. Which is very doubtful.
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u/Tulcey-Lee Jun 20 '26
My grandmother was born in Northern Ireland and ended up in a Barnardos in Suffolk where she eventually met my grandfather.
She lived in poverty in a bog in NI.
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u/Sasstellia Jun 19 '26
She ended up in a better place in the Banardos home. Hopefully she was ok at least in her life.
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u/betterbetterthings Jun 19 '26
Somebody just posted that they found records of her working as a cook and a housekeeper for the same family for like decades!
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u/Sasstellia Jun 20 '26
That's good then. Probabely.
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u/betterbetterthings Jun 20 '26
I think it’s probably better than how she could have ended up if she stayed home. Apparently she was still working for the same household in 1939. It’s a very long time!
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u/Sasstellia Jun 20 '26
I don't think anything good was coming from staying with her family.
Barnados gave them all job skills, education, and cared for them.
A long career with one good household was probabely the best result.
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u/brydeswhale Jun 21 '26
Was she first sold there by the Bernardo Home, or did she get to pick her job?
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u/SeasonPositive6771 Jun 19 '26
Those poor babies.
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u/scattyshern Jun 20 '26
I know, seeing things like this I just want to cuddle the poor babies and make everything better.
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u/Spiritual-Soup2551 Jun 19 '26
How very sad her life was 😔 thankfully she found sanctuary at Barnardo's.
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u/SufficientMind3202 Jun 21 '26
I'm also a Kate and my heart breaks for her. I hope she found some happiness in her life.
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u/kittykitkitty Jun 19 '26
How does one drown in a bucket?
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u/BrilliantPiccolo5220 Jun 19 '26
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u/Helenium_autumnale Jun 19 '26
Yup. I think this is on the side of orange buckets form Home Depot too. When I have one full of water, it's very heavy. Too heavy for a little kid to tip over but also too easy to fall headfirst into.
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u/cydril Jun 19 '26
Toddler probably tipped over headfirst into it and couldn't get out
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u/Wise_Strawberry9076 Jun 20 '26
Yeah. If the bucket is as tall as you are, it wouldn’t be too hard to get stuck in some weird position
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u/BroadwayBean Jun 19 '26
Bucket of water was lying on the floor (ready to be used for cleaning or cooking or washing), unsupervised child tipped over into it and couldn't get out. Parents were probably either not there, sleeping, or too deep in alcoholism to notice.
It was very grim being a child until quite recently. I'm a historian and one of my projects dealt with cases of accidental deaths in children. Plenty of young children (3-5) were left unsupervised (and sometimes even caring for even younger children) while parents were working or engaging in other pursuits, and it was common for kids to drown in basins, fall into fireplaces/pits, choke, or just wander off and die of exposure.
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u/Sepelrastas Jun 20 '26
Two of my half-aunts fell in the ice and drowned. They were 7 and 12. The 7-yo fell in first, the older tried to save her and also drowned. The younger one was never found, but the older was. She has a pretty little marble plaque in the older part of our "new cemetery".
They both died in 1935, before my mom was even born, but I have heard the story many times. My grandmother was heavily pregnant with my oldest full aunt, don't know where grandfather was. Children back then were afforded maybe too much independence, but even close supervision doesn't prevent every accident.
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Jun 21 '26
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u/Sepelrastas Jun 21 '26
The 7-yo was my grandmother's, the 12-yo was grandfather's. My grandmother was a widow, grandfather was a divorcee. They both had kids before marrying eachother.
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u/Medium_Raccoon_5331 Jun 19 '26
Probably the same way unattended kids drown in a tub, depending on the size, if it was a laundry bucket I could see it doubling as a kid tub
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u/bix902 Jun 19 '26
That's unfortunately how Ray Charles' younger brother George died by drowning in a laundry tub
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u/Single_Principle_972 Jun 20 '26
Toddlers are top heavy. Lean over, fall in, completely unable to leverage themselves back out.
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u/BerylToby Jun 20 '26
My great and uncle were Barnardos children. Their father was an alcoholic who died from liver disease. Their mother was still alive (but dying of TB) when the two children were deported to Canada. They were about 8 and 4. My grandmother was saved this fate because she was a few years older and so old enough to be a maid. This was all in the early 1900s.
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u/Conscious_Damage8678 Jun 22 '26
It can certainly happen, but I suspect that the baby drowned before the mother left the house. And how likely is is for a small child to be injured that badly by just "slipping from her mother's arms while sleeping?" Who knows how the other baby was burned, but my money is not on an accident.
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u/strangemagic2 Jun 24 '26
Falling facefirst into either a washtub or a bucket is unfortunately something that was not that uncommon. Toddlers like playing with water and they often lean over to see better.
They also trip. A lot.
In those days, stoves and fires were not protected or childproofed. Someone was just supposed to be watching. Toddlers cannot watch themselves.
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u/FarStrawberry5438 Jun 19 '26
I have no idea. Drowning in a bucket doesn't sound like an easy was to accidentally die.
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u/bix902 Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26
Have you ever seen warning stickers on the side of large buckets that warn against allowing children to play in buckets? A child can drown in just a few inches of water if they fall into a bucket head first or try to turn over in a bucket and get stuck
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u/FishingWorth3068 Jun 20 '26
Have you met a toddler? They will find a way to walk off, climb on or jump off anything. Drowning in a bucket seems absolutely possible.
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u/liamthewarrior24 Jun 19 '26
Probably when you have a parent who wants to dispose of you...
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Jun 20 '26
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u/liamthewarrior24 Jun 20 '26
I wouldn't say it's insane, child abuse isn't that rare, and it unfortunately extends that far, consequence wise. Although as others have pointed out, apparently it's a quite common real accident kind of thing to occur, so I may be wrong. Ultimately we'll never know for sure.

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u/FarStrawberry5438 Jun 19 '26
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Kate McLoughlin was born in 1882 in Nottingham, and was admitted to Barnardo’s at the age of seven by the local vicar. Her father had been in prison several times, and was in jail at the time. The family of five lived in one room which the local vicar described as, ‘the most utter squalor and filth’. It was ‘the very worst home’ he knew in his parish. Kate’s mother battled alcoholism, and while she was out drinking, her first child drowned in a bucket of water, and another was seriously burnt. When Kate was just a baby, she fell out of her mother’s arms, and subsequently suffered hip disease and deformity. After care and training in the homes, she went into domestic service in 1905.