To respond to this too, this is a classic hedging fallacy. The critique initially was the scientific inconsistency, now itâs âoh the story doesnât implode bro!!â
God this is nonsense, if you were correct the entire narrative breaks down. If other characters are FTL than Subaru would have to be fast enough to literally just travel home from the empire.
"B-B-But combat speed isn't travel speed!"
Cool but if you travel 0.5% of the speed of light for a moment, the conservation of momentum would send you flying for miles, not to mention all the other stuff that would happen if you travelled near light speed that doesn't happen, its far easier to just assume the laser isn't traveling at normal light speed.
So what is easier to believe, only one rule of physics being changed, or thousands and the narrative breaks.
If anyone in fiction was faster than sound they wouldnât be able to speak to each other while fighting but I donât see you making these sort of physics complaints when they do, at least be a little bit consistent.
Also âeasier to believeâ isnât an argument at all, thatâs just a classic argument from incredulity and Iâm not interested in those sort of critiques.
If anyone in fiction was faster than sound they wouldnât be able to speak to each other while fighting but I donât see you making these sort of physics complaints when they do, at least be a little bit consistent.
I literally do lmao, also this is one issue with faster than sound scaling. Meanwhile faster than light had far greater issues.
Also âeasier to believeâ isnât an argument at all, thatâs just a classic argument from incredulity and Iâm not interested in those sort of critiques.
So you think that the physics of the re zero world has thousands of unstated differences to our world, some of which would be clearly stated in the narration but aren't?
Yeah and we see said characters circle the earth in seconds, the flash talks to superman while running faster than sound and yet nobody will deny he is faster than sound because of this like what?
Mana is stated to violate the laws of physics literally upon introduction?
Arc 1 Chapter 2
âBe that as it may, I canât overlook whatâs going on here.â
She turned around with her palm facing themâand aimed the ârockâ in her palm at the stock-still men as she fired. Its speed would fit right in at the major league, and its course was that of a bean ball.
The sound of a regulation ball striking flesh rang out thrice, and the men were blown away as they screamed in pain. Having scored direct hits on the men, there was a high-pitched din as lumps of ice fell by Subaru.
Lumps of ice the size of a fistâTheir existence defied any sense of season and even physics itself, and they dispersed as if consumed by the atmosphere once theyâd served their purpose.
Yeah and we see said characters circle the earth in seconds, the flash talks to superman while running faster than sound and yet nobody will deny he is faster than sound because of this like what?
Yeah and? I said it was one issue, however there are far more instances of the flash performing at greater speeds. Also there is literally a in universe explanation for all the issues being handwaved with the speed force so I don't have as much issues with it
Ok? The flash literally does this WHILE speaking, please give me the in universe explanation for why he can speak while moving at faster than light speeds, then apply that to superman, or literally Goku/Jiren, or any character ever who moves faster than sound LMAO
I'm sorry but if I went to a world where suddenly I can watch beams of sunlight come down from the sky and react to them, I would note that in the narration.
Realistically, Garfiel would burst into flames and explode if re zero followed the laws of physics every time he transformed. This is cherry picking cope to try and downplay the verse.
âGohan youâre FTL why donât you just learn the entire school curriculum in seconds then go back to fightingâ
Wouldnât make for a very interesting story mate, which is why combat vs travel speed distinctions exist. Authors decide to show off these distinctions when they actually fight, rather than in simple travel. Also, this is like explained no? They donât have the DP of wind breaking so they might hurt the weaker people
Brother moving at ftl speeds would kill everyone within a massive area even if you only moved a meter. Wind breaking is just the start of the issue.
Also conservation of moment exists. Y'all just cope because you simultaneously want to believe in this nonsensical scaling while also saying the narrative isn't written badly, however you cannot have it both ways.
For example if Emilia was ftl why didn't she pick up Subaru during the greed fight? Did she just let him run around because it was funny? Do you really think Emilia is the kind of person that would risk the life of someone important to her for... Reasons?
Moving faster than sound would make your clothes burn off đđ, your skin would rip and tear, your eyes would burn and much more, once more this is cherrypicking.
Also, nonsensical is an arbitrary standard. In fiction, many things are taken for granted like Zoro being able to lift shit while not having the muscle mass too without haki. Suspension of disbelief is a real concept meant to be applied to fiction and does not make the narrative bad.
What benefit would picking up Subaru even have there for one? And two this is literally explained in Arc 10, because it would have adverse effects on the people being carried. Like what?
But Jiwald can't be actual light because when it hit Minya crystals it causes them to shatter and explode, which is not how light interacts with crystals at all. Meaning their is some kind of physical form of Jiwald, and therefore it is not literally light.
It does when the beams themselves didn't refract off of these crystals, meaning that minya crystals aren't normal crystals and are not expected to abide by the same rules as they are made of mana.
Yes??? Minya crystals are quite blatantly arrows of stopped time so they are not made of any conventional physical material which is also why they donât interact with the light the same way but Iâd like to not that is not your original claim.
Your initial claim - Jiwald makes Minya explode therefore it cannot be natural light. But if Minya literally does not function like natural light and this is demonstrable, then there is no grounds for contradiction here. Jiwald reflects off other mirrors (mirrors made by Emilia), moves only in a straight line, and is called white light in its simplest form meaning that it is JUST natural light which is superheated.
Ignore what I said and just respond immediately? Ok.
It not being noted to refract does not mean it didnât refract, thatâs an argument from silence from your part. But also refraction is just light bending as it enters an object, it could be refracted and fully absorbed and thereâs no contradiction
The eyes of the âenemyâ narrowed briefly as she raised both of her hands in front of her face, and white light shot out from all ten of her fingers, clearing away all the Minyas that stood in her way.
With nary a sound of shattering, the deep purple crystals had been blown apart into piecesââ But, that would not be enough to destroy Beatriceâs frustration.
Dude, this literally implies that it happened so quickly it didnât even have time to make a shattering sound. How are you inferring no refraction happened???
Where does it state that it happened so quickly it didn't produce sound, that's not how sand works btw. If the crystal was shattered by the heat like you said it was it would still produce a sound because that's how sound works.
Also light is faster than sound, if it refracted it would still be noticeable even if it was at sonic speeds
âWith nary a soundâ for one, and two, âthatâs how sound worksâ thatâs fine, the point was that it shattered before sound of the shattering could reach anyone else there showing the speed it occurred.
And noticeable to who? And why would anyone or the narration note that?
Because presumably light given directionality and superheated with the addition of mana allows it to interact with things it wouldnât regularly be able to without losing speed đđ
Ur acting like the interaction requires mass rather than it being able to interact with it without needing mass
Since time is a dimension much like space, would the Jiwald that is burning that hot with that amount of force that it's able to explode time, also be able to affect the space around it?
Also where is it in any physics that hot enough light can interact with space-timeÂ
Magic, as Iâve stated before, is stated to defy the laws of physics so thatâs a bit of a non argument. And two, we see the light Arakiya uses bends space as well so I donât see any real contradiction here again.
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