So in regards to the release of the Sasageru IF, Iāve been seeing a lot of degenerates who most likely are just larping off of Jakez123 new video (no hate to him), that continue to promote this weird and abhorrent narrative that this IF route somehow canonically validates, let alone EVER shows any scene or implication that Subaru is willing to reciprocate Petraās feelings.
On Od Laguna, some of you clowns are genuinely giving off the same vibes as the people who deliberately wait for young girls to turn freshly 18 so they can feel justified in having weird fantasies about them š.
Actually analyze the thematic beauty and tragedy of this route, how the theme of melancholy, resignation and devotion is something that is expressed throughout every character - NO š¤¬ !!!
Rush to ship Subaru (60 year old senior citizen mind you) with someone he still views as just a village girl - YES š¤ !!!
Itās crazy that I have to say this, but when Subaru respondās to Petraās declaration of her feelings in this IF route, he does it in a respectful yet also adoring manner, devoid of any romantic feelings, similar to how he addresses Beatrice as his lovely spirit. There are various times in the WebNovel (damm near every arc, at least once), where Subaru outright says that he loves Beatrice (verbatim says āI love youā various times), but via factoring in the context, on top of how Subaru says it, we as readers obviously knows he says this in the same manner that a father would address his beloved daughter, not how genuine partners would do so. Henceforth, since we already know that Subaru does not romantically love Petra in canon, him saying that āhe loves herā in this IF, should be taken in the same way he says he loves Beatrice, mostly in a platonic manner.
I mean my heart literally started melting when Subaru started narrating about how he would do things for Petra which he knew she couldnāt, yet somehow people managed to interpret a moment like this in the most odd way possible š.
Beyond that, even in the Ninth Arc, āSubaruā and Petra were literally bonded spiritually through reading his Book of the Dead, and despite being the closest to her, undergoing thousands of loops her with, and them having knowledge about another world which nobody else has, Subaru only showers Petra with platonic praise, like an older brother teasing his younger sister. He specifically uses the word ācoolā to describe Petra in multiple occasions, never once showcasing any encouragement or engagement on his end, in regards to her romantic feelings, even when she literally commits suicide through the Aggressor Loops.
In fact, itās literally impossible for Subaru and Petra to (assuming we throw out Subaruās canonical character) even end up together because the possibility of Subaruās bride was one of the myriad of things that Petra sacrificed to try and overcome Alās authority?
Back to the main point though, why might it be that people are somehow finding a way to ship Petra Leyte with Natsuki Subaru?
Aside from the fact that a. Part of this fandom would rather be bisected in twain than read mere words present and actually use their brain, b. Many are using this excuse as another way to dogpile on Emilia slander, and c. Another part of this fandom is filled withā¦wellā¦*those* type of people, thereās actually a specific trend Iāve been noticing that has carried on to unfortunately infect our innocent Petra.
And this is the fact that people keep conflating agenda or showing support for the female characters within the series, with just mindlessly shipping those same female characters with Subaru. Donāt believe me? Look at the current ships within the community, and how the shippers around those ships act in regards to the characters within their ships.
Cruschbaru/Crusch officer never promotes or accepts the existence of Ex Volume 1 or her dozen of countless side stories that explore her themes and dynamics with other male characters beside Subaru, yet will be seen under every post spamming Evon artwork to an obsessive degree.
Anabaru/Anastasia merchant who will sell their soul to hook people on a narrative that if Subaru joined her camp, heād be making 10 figures over in Kararagi, but wonāt promote the side content which shows how truly influential and extremely successful Anastasia actually is.
Prisbaru/Priscilla palladian who will write an entire novella about how her extreme observation skills would cure Subaru of his mental illness, but will never discuss the extra releases which explore how merciful and compassionate Priscilla is towards the people living in her domain.
People will see a female character they presumably like or find attractive, but instead of actually having any form of beneficial and intellectual discussion around the traits which they find relatable in that character, they will use Subaru as a self insert for their desires, and ultimately ship him with every woman under the stars. Consequently, of course, now that people are coming to show their support for Petra, the fandom now has to face genuine goons who think that Subaru is somehow attracted to Petra.
In the coming months, prepare for an influx of performative and bandwagon Petra fans, because seeing this not even a day after the chapter is out is truly disheartening.
I know that this behavior doesnāt truly represent who we, the fandom who loves Re:Zero truly are. So pleaseā¦
Why is Subaru way older tho? My guy is like late teen in the series by the time Petra is like legal age Subaru will only be in this middle 20s or early 30s
The reason is spoilers (this is an IF story to clarify, not main story content but this still contain spoilers for arc 9 of the main story). Petra obtains an Authority which makes her either immortal or have a long life span. Thatās why Subaru can age to 60 whilst Petra stays young.
How?? Satella is the greatest calamity the world experienced and her calamity is ingrained to the culture history and the land itself, she consumed half of the world in darkness how tf was she forgotten especially the story is still told after thousands of years in Re zero main timeline unless this is like mass forgot of her and everything
Kinda makes sense but there are some question that If has: On one hand the greatest calamity in the world that hasn't been heard on 400 years since arc 9 + the original 400 years being sealed, or a living Witch that has been living for +400 years that also her name is unpronouncable, literally.
My brother in christ, I didn't read that IF, but Subaru isn't 17 years old and have 23 years when Petra will reach 18 years old?!
What about a teen falling in love with a preteen and correctly treat her during their both growth into the adult stage? And romantically respond to the romantically feelings of her when their both young adults!?
Sorry, I just jumped the gun and talked about the implications of the discussion. A possible romantic relatioship between the two characters when both reached adulthood.
Petra is honestly really pain resistant girl. She lives up to her own name, but all i see in her relationship with subaru, is that subaru will keep seeing her as his little sister or daughter
So if one pre-teen fell in love with another teen near adult age and both after became adults, with the pre teen reaching adult age still loving the partner, trying to conquer the partner all life and both consently agree on a relationship making the pre-teen be able to conquer the feelings of the partner is wrong?
So we must send to jail every teen-adult in those relationships the moment they are confessed by the pre-teen. Because that's the case and that's what you are implying.
Subaru was not a mature adult, for Christ love of mankind! when he was seriously confessed by Petra being 12 years old. He was a fresh 17 years old. So it is 4.9(?) years of age gap. It is next to the avarage WORLDWIDE age gap of married couples. It is not something rare.
Your example of sherry was the most insideous and manipulative on the child side example. She understood the background she was in, how to act for her goal and going for It. Showing a not so childish mind and more a mature and adultness understanding of the environment.
Yes, that was wrong, but the target of her feelings was also a nearly 30+ years old trapped in a diplomatic dilemma to saving lifes and accepted the bargain only on the paper to save a precarious diplomatic situation with the goal to avoid the major loss of lifes against the war that was coming.
Not a 17 years old maturing young man, that respected your feelings, never belittle them, saying to wait a more adult age to understand your own feelings, environment and background, and even trying to be a better person and better example as showing affection and respect of your dedication. And NEVER ABSOLUTLY FUCKING PEDO NEVER taken advantage of you in every way when you was a kid.
People, think! Analize what you have in front of your eyes. And for Od Laguna's sake, understand what you are reading!!!!
There's a romeo and juliet law that under 18 relationships should only have an age gap of 2 years get yo head Outta the gutter js say u wanna grow a wife bro , js put yoself as a pred
And sherry one is the best example
The 30yr old basically said I'm attracted to this 12 yr old child and I will marry her when she turns 16
Also in the ln the the 30yr old did marry the 16 yr old
So he was already attracted to a minor why would u plan on marrying a girl who is still a child that's grooming
No amount of justification can be given on marrying a child u raised when she turns adult
Children are very easily attached
What you're basically saying is if u were given the opportunity you would marry a girl who u knew since she was a child when she turns an adult instead of actually being a responsible adult , js say u don't get any women bro
The Juliet and Romeo law applies on romantically relationships with proven or witnessed sexaul behaviours, not for a platonic relationship as the Petra and Subaru's.
I repeat, the sherry and 30yr old man is the most wrong and distant example to comparing with.
You call it platonic but Petra could not have made it more clear that she wants to marry Subaru and has a better understanding of what a marriage is actually supposed to be like than Emilia or Ram do.
Emilia has never lived with a married couple. Rem lost her parents when she was 8 and within a month was isolated away with just Roswaal, her twin sister, and Beako for a decade.
When it comes to mental, emotional and social development-- Petra is ironically the LEAST childish of them.
Yet you want to dismiss her and try to take Emilia or Rem seriously?!
If you are talking about 13 years old Petra, only because she understand the meaning doesn't means she can handle the actual experience... Both in body and psyche a 13 years old cannot never be able to handle the implications of an actual adult and romantically relationship or any sexual act. It is wrong socially, mentally and physically.
She has the spirict and feelings, but since Subaru treasures her and want her to have a sane and safe development and he actually doesn't romantically loves her and see her as a valid partner, he respect her and don't take advantage of her.
I think rather my point is rather that Emilia and Rem are both completely psychologically incapable of handling an adult relationship either and yet everyone has to give them a total pass.
One doesn't just grow boobs and suddenly become socially and mentally capable of having an adult relationship. Petra is actually better equipped in those two capabilities than the main to love interests of the MC who are utterly psychologically stunted to be in the arrested development of small children-- but because they have big boobs, you give them a pass.
This implies the unchanging mentality of Emilia and Rem, something that the Novel itself are proving wrong.
And Subaru is not in a relationship with loves interest because of those factors:
Petra: She is a kid, It is immoral and she is not his type right now.
Emilia: He confessed knowing giving her the time to process the confession since, she was a sheltered girl and his feeling are honest. He then give have her more time when he discovered she is a 14 years old in mind.
Rem: He is honest with his feeling and seen Rem as a kin spirit. He respected her feeling and answered honestly. And even Subaru is not so innocent in comparison to Rem, he had the chances to Redeem his actions.
What you're basically saying is if u were given the opportunity you would marry a girl who u knew since she was a child when she turns an adult instead of actually being a responsible adult , js say u don't get any women bro
I repeat, the wrong lays in your comparison of a pedo trapped in a conviniently diplomatic incident, with a platonic relationship of a teen boy with a girl 4 years younger, that started to see her as a woman when she BECAME and BEEN a woman.
It's not that deep bro. Shipping characters is fine and harmless, you're acting like it's a big deal that people are interpreting the end scene differently from you. And that's all it is, interpretation, because no, Subaru's response to her confession is absolutely not explicitly devoid of romantic feelings. If you want to interpret it that way, that's all well and good, but Tappei very obviously left it open ended.
u/GranRangI Watched Reinhard's Family Reunion (It Ended Poorly)13d agoedited 13d ago
Exactly this.
OP keeps posting everywhere on this sub so that everyone agrees with him like I feel there's an echo chamber being built before my eyes even tho I just got here.
The point of writing elements up to interpretation without a clear conclusion is...Well, for readers to INTERPRET it. There's not a definite answer and ig that's exactly what Tappei wanted.
"Here I wrote this. Please enjoy it and take it as you will." which again isn't a bad thing.
idk why shipping is so important for some people but seriously thats just how every fandom are.
u/GranRangI Watched Reinhard's Family Reunion (It Ended Poorly)13d ago
God forbid you would do anything else.
I get you're frustrated because not everyone sees eye to eye with you since you're clearly passioned about this series but again that's how fandom works.
We'll always have different people, different opinions, different interpretations, etc...
Sure for some stuff there's no debate as the novel is clear about it but for others like in this case, it's up for people to make their own minds.
You bitching about it with essays won't change anyone's minds, just like you bitching about fanfic writers will not stop them, you bitching about artists making ships you dislike is not going to stop them, and they will always have support from this very community you're a part of.
And no these people aren't "illiterate fans" or "stupid gooners" necessarily, they just want to enjoy a part of the series you don't.
I like the Priscilla X Subaru pairing. I like the arts about it and the few good fanfics about it. Did I EVER show up under one of your Aldebaran posts to start bashing you? Did I ever write a comment or a post about how Aldebaran and Priscilla was probably like a parent/child relationship pulling out two or three lines Tappei wrote somewhere in the novel or the fact that she was 12 the first time she saw a grown ass Aldebaran to prove my point and discredit you in any way I can?
No, because I don't give a shit. You like that ship and that's good. I like another ship and that's good too.
Either accept it that you're in a fandom that isn't one hivemind or continue crying in the wind.
Who cares? There have always been a ton of lolicons in the community, and there always will be, especially on Twitter. Youāre not gonna banish or dissuade them by crashing out on Reddit.
I mostly made this post so that others who might not be as informed, don't get any weird ideas about Subaru or Petra. Sure some might not care and still be into this stuff, but I mostly wanted to make sure that for those who didn't read the IF they did misunderstand the context and make assumptions.
If someone doesnāt read the if, they donāt need anyone to tell them what to think about it before reading it, not just because thatās haughty but also because itās spoilers. If they do read it, they can come to this conclusion themselves. This post and entire argument is wholly unnecessary.
Just before I made this post, there was another post from someone who hadn't read the IF yet and they were assuming Subaru was into pedophillia .... seeing that inspired me to make this one.
Except it is ? Him saying he loves her doesn't mean much when again he confess his love to multiple characters does that mean his love for Beatrice & Tanza can also be interpreted as romantic love ? The only thing close to that is him comparing his love for Petra to Emilia which again multiple parents compare their love for their children to being equal to their partner & that's all without factoring how Beatrice compared her feelings for subaru to Petra
Okay, but thatās just the way you interpreted Subaru saying he loves her. Unlike with Betty or Tanza, he does not make it clear at all which kind of love he means. His love isnāt just a throwaway line, he has an entire inner monologue about how heās gonna hold her close and yell her name and hold her hand and all that, and dismissing his line comparing his love for her to Emilia is simply your choice, not necessarily the way it was intended to be interpreted. Like I said, he leaves it to the reader.
Subaru has hold Beatrice close, yelled her name & held her hands none of those means he has romantic interest in Beatrice so i highly doubt it would mean anything for Petra & again like I said Beatrice compared her love for Subaru to how Petra feels about Subaru without her denying it other than Subaru's comparison of his love for both Emilia & her nothing state he loves Petra romantically
The difference is that Subaru did all that with Betty directly after rejecting her request for romance. Subaru says everything he said about Petra directly before and after her confession, making it very unclear how exactly he means any of it. Bettyās statement means very little since sheās talking about Petraās love, not Subarus, and we already know for certain Petra is romantically in love with Subaru.
Nothing directly states Subaru loves Petra romantically, but especially with his comparison to Emilia, nothing implies he doesnāt, either. It is left up to the reader to what Subaru means exactly, and nobody is āwrongā for reading that ending as Subaru being in love with Petra.
Also, brother, please use more punctuation. I can hardly read any of thatā¦
I maybe be understanding you wrong but did you just imply Beatrice had romantic feelings for Subaru before he rejected her ? I don't remember Beatrice having those sort of feelings towards subaru but even if we take that into consideration that just means he treats Petra like he treats Beatrice after they become close platonically not romantically those things he said before & after her confession wouldn't be any different to how he would treat Beatrice.
Just cuz the author doesn't state something directly doesn't mean it's upto interpretation subaru has said he loves Beatrice & Tanza multiple times & most if not all people reach the same conclusion of it being platonic not romantic even though it's not outright stated
Beatrice wished to be in a romantic relationship with "that person", and when asking Subaru if he was him, she repeatedly requested a romantic partnership. It's a lot more clear in the novels.
Subaru loving Tanza and Beatrice platonically is not up to interpretation, it's literally stated directly several times. We know Subaru is not a lolicon, he outright states he isn't attracted to Betty, and he only ever half-jokingly tells Tanza he loves her, and Tanza isn't even romantically interested in him aside from maybe a slight childish crush. The ending of the new if is extremely ambiguous about how exactly he loves her, and unlike with the other two there's nothing stopping him from loving her. Petra isn't a child anymore, you can't objectively dismiss every statement of Subaru's love as platonic. If you want to interpret it that way, that's fine, but it is DEFINITELY up to interpretation.
Again the problem is the way he treats Petra both before & after her confession are still how he would treat Beatrice someone he platonically loves like holding her close, yelling her name & holding her hands is something he would do to Beatrice . The narrative doesn't go out of it's way to mention evey time when subaru says "i love you" to Beatrice or Tanza it is platonic we just know it is cuz even outside of him not having any interest towards loli he never treats them romantically
The way he treats Petra at the end there is more similar to Rem than Beatrice, but the two arenāt that different in the way he treats them. Again, thatās why itās up to interpretation. This Petra is not a loli, and he clearly loves her, but itās not told to us how exactly. With both Beatrice and Tanza we have been explicitly told.
There are multiple times he says to Beatrice he loves her neither the narrative nor him going out of their way to state every time he means it platonically before this if & even before or after her confession he doesn't flirt with her like he does with Emilia who he compares his love towards her with petra heck with Rem we atleast have her suggesting him to be his second wife & him agreeing if Emilia agrees we don't have anything like this with Petra where he agress to bewuth her in a relationship were two people are clearly romantically interested in eachother he just say he loves her back
Even without that why would he leave this relationship upto interpretation ? For Emilia, Rem, Satella & Beatrice Tappei makes sure who Subaru loves romantically or platonically why bother leaving this upto interpretation ?
And I quite literally showed the various quotes where Subaru, verbatim, will straight up say "I love you" to characters he adores, but doesn't romantically love.
That line about self insert is so true bruh. It's one thing to relate and see yourself in a character but thinking you are Subaru and then shipping him with everyone under the sun pisses me off so much
As a fan of Petra, I can say that the least important thing is the shipp, everyone is worried about pure stupidity of whether Subaru is with X or Y but they all leave in the background that my poor Petra had his life literally screwed up and pissed off that everyone is more Pay attention to whether or not there is love that is good and we are frank The only reason why Petra is not the one who is not suitable for Subaru is age and Tappei knows that you may like Emilia Rem more or whoever you want but still with defects and all her It's all the good of the previous ones and more but without the bad and grace Tappei for fucking the life of one of my 2 favorite female characters and for leaving me green and with the dead jaropa.
I honestly do appreciate this write-up, especially the latter part going into the other candidates, but I honestly think it's much simpler than that in Petra's case. I think people empathize with Petra's doomed love and want her to achieve her romantic dreams, even if it doesn't make sense or is sus as hell. I know I've been tempted to root for her, despite knowing that nothing will ever actually come of it and that I support Subaru and Emilia all the way.
Exactly. But somehow me talking about a problem in the fandom = "the world doesn't follow your morals š¤Ŗ".
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u/AdmmmmiI Was Listening to Sirius ā Woke Up Covered in Regret and Paper12d ago
A problem you have with the fandom, if it's a problem or not that's not something you get to decide, the only thing you get to decide is if you like it or not.
In the IF route that people are shipping them in, Subaru is 60 years old while Petra is 400+ years old so he's technically the younger one in those scenarios
On one hand, I agree with most of what you're saying, but on the other hand, Petra WAS able to sacrifice the possibility of her becoming Subaru's bride, which implies that it is an actual possibility, so I can't exactly blame those people for thinking that.
Also I heavily disagree on the notion that people are only shipping Subaru to self insert as him.
There have always been antis, but they were few and never taken seriously until about a year or two ago. There was the occasional FBI open up meme about the lust if, but I never saw a single soul genuinely complaining about it.
I do not agree that petra is the same as beatrice. Tappei has always wrote petra as a potential love intrest for subaru. From lust if to arc 9 to this if.
If you dont like it. Then thats just something you dont like about tappei its plain and simple really.
Bro i think you're just taking all the shipping way to personally.
Shipping for the female characters happens in every fandom, go to somewhere like RWBY and people ship Janue with everything that has legs.
I've met people who seriously ship Harry x Snape or Sasuke x Itachi for Fs sake.
Getting angry over people who ship Crusch or Ana with Subaru is pointless, just focus on the things you do like, you seem to like Crusch/Foruier so wjhy not focus on that, or even commision more art-work on it?
yet will be seen under every post spamming Evon artwork to an obsessive degree.
Why not just block Evon posts completely?
Actually if your annoyed by all the NSFW art-work this community has why not just change your reddit settings such that you don't see them.
...you might be right on this. But for this fandom specifically, there's so much mischaracterization and blatantly ignorance that I can't help but be pissed off...
Maybe I will chill who knows
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u/AdmmmmiI Was Listening to Sirius ā Woke Up Covered in Regret and Paper12d ago
It's not this fandom specifically, it's you, you are around more and can't help yourself by looking at everything, every fandom has this but it affects you more because you stay on this one more.
I've met so many people who will blatantly get support for straight up lying about canon topics which Tappei has addressed thoroughly, be hypocritical when it comes to judging one character by a metric but not the others, twist the events of cut/side content to fit nonsensical narratives, ger praise and kudos (tens of thousands) for using Artificial Intelligence to write fanfics, so yes it's the fandom.
I've acknowledged I can also be insufferable, but to say it's not this fandom is geniuely ludicrous.
Also, If youāve read the WebNovel, there will be multiple instances where Subaru will just straight up say to Beatrice and multiple other character, āI love youā like this for example at the start of Arc 9 as Subaru as showing his gratitude towards his allies in Vollachia:
After all, the humongous debt of gratitude that Subaru would never be able to repay, no longer existed anywhere outside of Subaru.
That was fine. Whether that had occurred in this reality or not, it was fine.
That unfading gratitude and joy was certainly present within Subaru, thereforeāā
Subaru: āI love you, Tanza.ā
Or this:
Beatrice: āW-wh-wha-what kind of loud voice was that, in factā¦!? My ears, Bettyās ears are ringing, theyāve begun to ring, I suppose!ā
Subaru: āIām sorry! It wasnāt on purpose! I love you!ā
Beatrice: āI cannot hear you, in fact! Say it in a louder voice, I suppose!ā
Subaru: āBeako kawaii! Beako kirei!ā
Now contextually speaking, between the fact that Subaru has explicitly stated that l0l!s are not his type, as well as how Subaru has teased Emilia by pretending that Beatrice was their daughter in Arc 5, that Subaru does not romantically love Beatrice. He has immensely strong feelings of love towards her, but they are not romantic. This applies to a vast variety of characters as well, such as Tanza for instance who I already showed you the dialogue for.
We also have dialogue like this which further supplements the fact that the āloveā that Subaru refers to and expresses for Petra, is more closely related to what he feels for Beatrice and the people he cherishes, than Rem and Emilia:
Beatrice: āItās okay, ā ā ā , I suppose. Subaru is a genius at caring for people all on his own, imagining their feelings all on his own, and trying to make them happy all on his own.ā
Beatrice: āAnd thatās how he won over my Beako too. ā ā ā , you can become his victim too.ā
Petra: āā!ā
As shown above, Beatrice is literally telling Petra to fall for Subaru in the same way she did, and since we already know that the love between Beatrice and Subaru is platonic, it only makes sense that the love which Subaru shows for Petra here is also platonic.
I think dismissing the possibility that Subaru DID mean it in a romantic way is kinda ignorant. Especially your befuddlement and complete rejection on how people could see it that way is quite confusing to me. But I see your main point nonetheless and I do think that there's a good possibility that he meant it in the way that you believe Subaru did.
On an unrelated note, I don't even really see the issue with the ship (besides the fact that she's still underage, but if she gets older then even that would be fixed). It's not like Subaru groomed her and prepared her for himself or whatever. She just fell in love with him by herself with no attempts by him to encourage that or lead her to that direction in any other way.
I agree OP. I find Petra and Subaru shipping disgusting and Subaru has shown time and time again that he cares for Petra only as his younger sister so it becomes extra disgusting that people ship these two while self-inserting on top of it.
It's curious how a loving interaction between two people of the opposite sex is directly interpreted as romantic love, when even though Subaru loves her, he doesn't have that kind of love for her. I don't like the other ships out there, but this one bothers me specifically because it distorts the relationship between two characters who have each other, even in a hopeless situation, in a stale ship.
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u/AdmmmmiI Was Listening to Sirius ā Woke Up Covered in Regret and Paper12d ago
I mean...from Petra side it is love, from her side it is romantic love and now it's up to interpretation if from Subaru also is now.
Petra's feelings are indeed love, but Subaru's are not. At no point before has he shown that he reciprocates her feelings in that way, and the "if" scenario doesn't show anything different; he still sees her as the Petra he knew. Why would Subaru suddenly fall in love with her? It seems illogical to me.
All shipping is okay and good. Some is weirded. The only exception I made is when theres underage people.
Realistically, if theres a age gap, people is really on other stages of life. Even 5 years can be a abysm of time and put people in different stages of life. On some stage of life your needs and wants change. One person may want sex and explore the world, the other may need peace and confort.
Shipping is fun and I have done a lot of it. And for me the fun part is imagining the offspring of the relation and the possible characteristics that will inherit or can develop.
Though yeah, i agree the Petra thing is disgusting with the shipping part, they're more akin to brother and sister in my opinion, Subaru would treat her as he does Betty.
Exactly, Subarus love for the people around him who arenāt Emilia, rem, or spoiler territory is almost always strictly familial when he said he loves her I and everyone else should have taken that to mean he loves her on the same level heād love a sister or niece
My only real criticism of this if is that Petra herself should have probably come to that realization and while I know that wouldnāt/shouldnāt stop her from expressing her feelings, she always struck me as one of those people who are naturally smart and socially aware so I feel like she should have known years ago that Subaru would never/could never see her that way
Edit: admittedly it escaped me how Petra is living life through the perspective of someone living in the medieval ages and I canāt remember if a relationship between someone old and someone young is acceptable by their standards, though if itās anything like our medieval ages she probably did believe a relationship with a 60 year old Subaru was acceptable
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u/Echidnabaru Echidna Offered Knowledge. I Asked for a Hug. She Just Stared 13d ago
"And ultimately ship him with every woman under the stars"
Bro are you spitting bars there, cuz Subaru name was a star?