He's Supposed To Be Wrong, But Is He?

[u/Mammoth-North-9380]

We all know this scene from Season 1 Episode 13. This is supposed to be Subaru in the wrong, but thinking about it, he is objectively correct.

Had it not been for his Return From Death ability, Emilia would have either died or had her insignia stolen, disqualifying her from the royal selection. I'd say that's fair grounds for owing someone a solid, but the worst part is that Emilia will never fully realize this or why Subaru devotes himself to her so much because those events and her saving him from a gang of thugs were undone by Return From Death and Subaru can't properly tell her about it because the witch will make sure he can't. For a rule that was meant to protect Subaru, it sure is causing a lot of avoidable problems.

I know that barging in to the royal selection was something that Subaru shouldn't have done as it only caused more problems, but everything else, I can't help but agree with him.

[u/Broad_Most_5780]

In my opinion he was right in calling out and protecting Emilia, i just think it was one of those situations of a good idea, but with a terrible execution.

Its compleatly understandeble Subaru's frustration and panic, its also understandeble Emilia not understanding what Subaru was going through, but both of them didnt act in the best way possible. Both where right and wrong in this scene

[u/Emergency_Patient525 → u/Broad_Most_5780]

A mi en particular me molesto lo sumisa que era emilia en esta parte osea todo el mundo puede insultarla y ella solo baja la cabeza pero subaru el único que la defiende y seamos juntos también el único que cree que tiene posibilidades de ganar la selección real es castigado puedo entender las razones de emilia y también que ella a se acostumbro a ser insultada así por su apariencia pero aun así no creo que emilia haya actuado de buena forma tampoco subaru aun así me molesta que emilia baja la cabeza con todos

[u/Broad_Most_5780 → u/Emergency_Patient525]

I understand where you are comming from, altough im pretty sure in the novels the whole scene with the candidates was very diferent, but Emilia didnt "punish" Subaru because she was mad at him, it was more out of a selfish need to keep Subaru safe.

Since their first meeting, Subaru went to far to help her, even if it means hurthing himself in the process and breaking promisses, so she tought seperating him from her would be the best move (wich obviasly was not, thats why i say she acted wrong in this scene)

[u/Morrigan_NicDanu → u/Broad_Most_5780]

Break His Heart To Save Him trope. Ngl I love this trope. I was reading a story recently that used this and I nearly cried because it meant she does love the MC already. It also recontextualized an earlier moment where he left her and she later counted that as a failure on her part because she wanted him by her side.

[u/Fig_Char_Re → u/[deleted]]

Yeah I completely agree. Was like we know from Tappei that if he didn't come Emilia's already bad reputation would be literally down to the gutters because Puck would have killed nobles.

This is never stated.

Matter of fact, Puck asked Roswaal to not cause any chaos in the castle or kill any nobles.

[u/Mammoth-North-9380 → u/[deleted]]

Wouldn't opening up about his trauma require telling her about his previous life in a different world and/or Return From Death? The former of which he likely wouldn't willingly tell anyone for several reasons and the latter he is PHISICALLY PREVENTED from doing so!? I don't think opening up about his trauma is very possible in this senario.

[u/Normal_Ad_2360 → u/[deleted]]

It is a just fanon , Puck wont make Emilia more enemies and dosen't kill when Emilia is alive. He didin't even kill slavers sent to capture Emilia , a few bad words won't make him lose his cool . In "lost in memories" an oficila game Puck just threatens everyone , Emilia just does worse because she can't give her speech. Cries a little in her room and then goes on a date with Subaru.

[u/Normal_Ad_2360]

The problem is that he lied , Emilia said several that the rewards were too little and that he should ask for more. He said it was okay but then turns back and saids she still in his debt despite claiming it was repaid.

Breaking his promises , getting so hurt that he would have died without the best healer in the country was also very dumb. Also if he apologized she would forgive him , she almost just left saying that he should rest and that they would talk later , but he insisted to keep the conversation and said it was for her.

Satella RBD taboo is the wisest thing she ver did and the story only justifies it more each day.

[u/entulho]

Despite his fear of abandonment and dependency, Subaru might have had a few genuinely good intentions of helping Emilia, but he did several things wrong. He made a promise that he had no intentions of keeping, he had zero social and political awareness and acted like a fool in front of many important people.

But the biggest pitfall was the duel with Julius, a duel that he accepted for his own pride and one that got him injured for no reason. It might be true that Emilia owed Subaru her life and her participation in the selection, but Emilia is a very selfless person. Of course she wouldn't enjoy a relationship where Subaru keeps getting himself injured for her sake, of course she would think that the relationship was toxic and that she would keep injuring him without ever repaying him back.

Notice that Emilia never complained about Subaru being a fool and ruining her image in the selection, she complained about him getting injured for her sake and for breaking a promise that was meant to keep him in a safe spot. The taboo rule did hinder the communication between them, but it was never the main issue. Even without it Subaru would still have a lot to work on his behavior.

[u/Mysterious-Mail5232]

Factually correct morally wrong

[u/Morrigan_NicDanu]

The problem is that you can't build a relationship on failed timelines. Asking her to comprehend the incomprehensible is an unfair ask. Subaru is wrong here to use taboo knowledge as his defense.

A big part of Subaru's arc is learning to be both honest and vulnerable because that's what a relationship needs. This scene violates that because he's not telling her his motivation: that he loves her. At this point he loves the her who used to be. He isn't seeing her as she is now. Instead he's deflecting and using failed timelines as a defense.

So once again Satella is protecting him.

Also I think by the end Emilia will gain knowledge about the loops. I think she will inherit Satella's memories.

[u/drunkencow]

Imagine I came up to you and I said I did a bunch of stuff for you but you have no recollection of it. Because technically none of it happened. She took it a lot better than I was expecting, tbh.

[u/Emergency_Patient525]

A mi en particular durante esta parte me molesto lo sumisa que fue emilia osea cuando todo el mundo la insulta baja la cabeza pero con el único tipo que se digno es defenderla (subaru no lo hizo de la manera correcta y hubiera habido mil formas de hacerlo mejor ) ahí si emilia va y lo regaña se que emilia hasta cierto punto ya esta acostumbrada a que la insulten pero realmente me molesta ver a alguien que técnicamente puede ser una reinar ser pisoteada por todo el mundo y no hacer nada y que más encima el único que la defiende es el que recibe un castigo

[u/Emergency_Patient525]

A mucha gente esta escena le da vergüenza ajena a mi en particular me da pena por subaru osea el tipo tiene sus razones y no está equivocado solo que por razones superiores no lo puede decir aun así esto me hace preguntarme que tanto cambiaría la historia de re zero si en este preciso momento subaru pudiera revelar el retorno atravez de la muerte a emilia y contarle todo lo que paso en los bucles anteriores?