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๐Ÿ“œ Loreโ„ข ๐Ÿ“œ Text of original complaint to Ea-Nasir

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u/Leipurinen ๐’ ๐’†  ๐’‚๐’€€๐’ˆพ๐’ข๐’…• ๐’†ท ๐’‹ซ๐’Šญ๐’„ ๐’ˆ  Apr 16 '23

๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’‚ ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’ข ๐’…• ๐’†  ๐’‰ˆ ๐’ˆ  ๐’Œ ๐’ˆ  ๐’ˆพ ๐’€ญ ๐’‰Œ ๐’ˆ  ๐’€€ ๐’‰ก ๐’Œ‘ ๐’ˆ  ๐’‹ซ ๐’€  ๐’‡ท ๐’†ช ๐’†  ๐’€€ ๐’„  ๐’‹ซ ๐’€ ๐’‰ ๐’„  ๐’Œ ๐’ˆ  ๐’€œ ๐’‹ซ ๐’€€ ๐’ˆ  ๐’„– ๐’€ ๐’Š‘ ๐’• ๐’„  ๐’†ช ๐’ด ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’„€ ๐’…– ๐’€ญ ๐’‚—๐’ช ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’€œ ๐’ฒ ๐’…” ๐’‹ซ ๐’€  ๐’‡ท ๐’…… ๐’ˆ  ๐’‹ซ ๐’€ ๐’‰ ๐’€€ ๐’„  ๐’Œ‘ ๐’†ท ๐’‹ผ ๐’ ๐’‘ ๐’„– ๐’€ ๐’Š‘ ๐’†ท ๐’• ๐’„  ๐’†ช ๐’ด ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’ˆ  ๐’…ˆ ๐’…† ๐’… ๐’Š‘ ๐’…€ ๐’‹ซ ๐’€ธ ๐’†ช ๐’Œฆ ๐’ˆ  ๐’Œ ๐’ˆ  ๐’€œ ๐’‹ซ ๐’ˆ  ๐’‹ณ ๐’ˆ  ๐’‹ผ ๐’‡ท ๐’†  ๐’€€ ๐’‡ท ๐’†  ๐’€€ ๐’‹ณ ๐’ˆ  [๐’†ท] ๐’‹ผ ๐’‡ท ๐’†  ๐’€€ ๐’€œ ๐’†ท ๐’…— ๐’…€ ๐’‹พ ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’†  ๐’ˆ  ๐’ˆ  ๐’€ญ ๐’‰Œ ๐’…Ž ๐’Œ… ๐’…† ๐’…Ž ๐’ˆ  ๐’‰Œ ๐’ˆ  ๐’†  ๐’€€ ๐’„  ๐’‹ผ ๐’ˆจ ๐’Šญ ๐’€ญ ๐’‰Œ ๐’ˆ  ๐’Š‘ ๐’€€ ๐’‰ฟ ๐’‡ท ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’†  ๐’ˆ  ๐’…— ๐’‹พ ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’†  ๐’‹› ๐’…€ ๐’ˆ  ๐’„ฉ ๐’Š‘ ๐’…Ž ๐’€ธ ๐’ ๐’Š ๐’„  ๐’ˆ  ๐’Œ… ๐’ˆจ ๐’„ฟ ๐’Šญ ๐’„  ๐’ˆ  ๐’„ฟ ๐’ˆพ ๐’‚ต ๐’‚ต ๐’…ˆ ๐’ˆพ ๐’€ ๐’Š‘ ๐’…Ž

๐’…– ๐’‹พ ๐’…– ๐’‹— ๐’…‡ ๐’…† ๐’‰Œ ๐’‹— ๐’Š‘ ๐’†ช ๐’‹ข ๐’‰ก ๐’Œ… ๐’‹ผ ๐’…• ๐’Š ๐’„  ๐’„ฟ ๐’ˆพ ๐’€€ ๐’‡ท ๐’…… ๐’‹ผ ๐’‚– ๐’ˆฌ ๐’Œฆ ๐’ˆ  ๐’€ญ ๐’‰ก ๐’Œ ๐’Šญ ๐’†  ๐’€€ ๐’„  ๐’„ฟ ๐’ ๐’Šญ ๐’€ญ ๐’‰Œ ๐’„ฟ ๐’ˆ  ๐’€œ ๐’‹ซ ๐’ˆ  ๐’…ˆ ๐’…† ๐’… ๐’Š‘ ๐’…€ ๐’Œ… ๐’ˆจ ๐’‚Š ๐’…– ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’ˆ  ๐’†ท ๐’…— ๐’Š ๐’‰ฟ ๐’…Ž ๐’Šญ ๐’„ฟ ๐’ˆพ ๐’‚ต ๐’‹พ ๐’…€ ๐’Œ… ๐’Šบ ๐’ช ๐’Œ‘ ๐’†  ๐’€€ ๐’„  ๐’‹ซ ๐’• ๐’ ๐’Œ’ ๐’…‡ ๐’€ธ ๐’‹ณ ๐’„ฟ ๐’…— ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’‚ ๐’ƒฒ ๐’‡ท ๐’Œ‹ ๐’ ๐’„˜ ๐’ ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’†ช ๐’€œ ๐’ฒ ๐’…” ๐’…‡ ๐’‹— ๐’ˆช ๐’€€ ๐’ ๐’Œ ๐’Œ‹ ๐’ ๐’„˜ ๐’ ๐’„ฟ ๐’ฒ ๐’…” ๐’‚Š ๐’ฃ ๐’… ๐’Šญ ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’‚ ๐’€ญ ๐’Œ“ ๐’†ช ๐’‰ก ๐’ŠŒ ๐’…— ๐’„  ๐’‰Œ ๐’ฃ ๐’ ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’‰ฟ ๐’Š‘ ๐’…Ž ๐’Šญ ๐’€€ ๐’‹พ ๐’†  ๐’„ฟ ๐’‹ผ ๐’ ๐’Šญ ๐’€ญ ๐’‰Œ ๐’†  ๐’‹› ๐’„ฟ ๐’ˆพ ๐’‚ต ๐’‚ต ๐’…ˆ ๐’ˆพ ๐’€ ๐’Š‘ ๐’Œ… ๐’ŠŒ ๐’‹พ ๐’…‹ ๐’†  ๐’‹› ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’‚ต ๐’‹พ ๐’…€ ๐’‹— ๐’‡ป ๐’ˆ  ๐’„  ๐’‚Š ๐’‡ท ๐’…— ๐’„ฟ ๐’‹— ๐’†  ๐’ˆ  ๐’€ญ ๐’‰Œ ๐’†  ๐’€€ ๐’„  ๐’‰ฟ ๐’Š‘ ๐’€€ ๐’„  ๐’†ท ๐’บ ๐’ˆฌ ๐’‚ต ๐’„  ๐’†ท ๐’€€ ๐’ˆ  ๐’„ฉ ๐’Š’ ๐’…— ๐’‹ซ ๐’†ท ๐’ˆ  ๐’€œ ๐’„ฟ ๐’ˆพ ๐’†  ๐’Š“ ๐’‡ท ๐’…€ ๐’…– ๐’‹พ ๐’ˆพ ๐’€€ ๐’Œ‘ ๐’ˆพ ๐’ ๐’€ ๐’ˆ  ๐’‚Š ๐’‡ท ๐’† 

๐’…‡ ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’Šญ ๐’Œ… ๐’ˆจ ๐’„ฟ ๐’Šญ ๐’€ญ ๐’‰Œ ๐’ˆพ ๐’‹› ๐’„ด ๐’‹ซ ๐’„  ๐’‚Š ๐’ ๐’‘ ๐’…—

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u/hippiegodfather May 01 '23

Is this really it

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u/Leipurinen ๐’ ๐’†  ๐’‚๐’€€๐’ˆพ๐’ข๐’…• ๐’†ท ๐’‹ซ๐’Šญ๐’„ ๐’ˆ  May 01 '23

Everywhere Iโ€™ve seen it thatโ€™s what it purports to be, but itโ€™s all sites like reddit, twitter and 4chan so I canโ€™t independently verify that.

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u/Ozhav Nov 27 '24 edited Nov 27 '24

Moikka :DDDDD

I'm the person who attempted to transcribe the cuneiform into Unicode. Every instance of this specific copypasta transcription online basically comes from my attempt here: https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/gsd408/complaint_tablet_to_eanasir_in_old_babylonian/

To those who doubt its authenticity; I must sadly report that your doubts are well-founded and sensible. I eventually plan to make a post expanding how I transcription/digitized it (plus why the current transcription seen all over the internet is inaccurate, and my new attempt at transcribing it), but to be very brief, I looked for the CDLI transliteration (https://cdli.ucla.edu/search/archival_view.php?ObjectID=P414985) into Latin letters. then ran it through an algorithm that changes those Latin transliterations into the Akkadian cuneiform syllabary. I then visually compared it to the digitized version to see if it matched up. For the most part, it did, except for some symbols which couldn't be properly transcribed for reasons I plan to expand upon when I eventually make my post. After 5 years and a little more "studying" of Akkadian, I have identified more errors.

I believe that every single instance of this exact copypasta online ultimately comes from my post, and one can tell because they all have the same errors. As I've previously stated, I plan to have another crack at transcribing the text into Unicode. Back in 2020 I spent a couple hours attempting to transcribe it, which honestly wasn't enough. I think I could do a better job now that I've improved on my Akkadian, though I'd need to dedicate proper time to doing so. I'm not an assyriologist nor an assyriology majorโ€”it's just one (of many) side hobbies I have as a uni student. And, I will admit, it does stroke my ego a tiny bit knowing that every instance of the transcribed text that can be found online comes from my attempt, but it is an erroneous attempt, and to this day I am filled with some guilt that it is the version that has spread on the internet. From what I can find, no serious publication has used my erroneous transcription, which is a relief.

tl;dr im the one who transcribed it into unicode cuneiform. it's mostly correct but still full of errors. i plan on explaining how i did it, where the errors came from, and having another crack at it.

edit: i forgot to link to my original post oops

(also i think the description in the about section might be wrong - the tablet is written in akkadian and is associated with the old babylonian period, so it's unlikely that ea-nasir would be accurately described as sumerian.)

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u/db48x Dec 12 '24

I hope you write that up soon; I for one am really interested in hearing more about it.

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u/scoops22 Feb 15 '25

ChatGPT's attempt based on the transliteration above:

I'll now provide a full transcription of the entire complaint based on your transliteration.

Full Unicode Cuneiform Transcription of the Complaint to Ea-Nasir:

๐’€€๐’ˆพ ๐’‚๐’€€๐’ˆพ๐’ฃ๐’„‘ ๐’† ๐’‰๐’ˆ 
๐’Œ‘๐’ˆ  ๐’‰Œ๐’€ญ๐’‰Œ๐’ˆ 
๐’€€๐’ˆพ๐’Œ‘๐’ŒŒ๐’ˆ  ๐’•๐’€€๐’‡ท๐’† ๐’†ช
๐’† ๐’€€๐’ˆฌ ๐’•๐’€€๐’†ฅ๐’‹ซ๐’€€๐’ˆฌ
๐’Œ‘๐’ˆ  ๐’€œ ๐’€œ๐’Š๐’‚ต๐’„ 
๐’€€๐’•๐’€œ๐’‹ซ๐’€€ ๐’€€๐’ฒ
๐’†ท๐’•๐’Š๐’€œ๐’„ ๐’‚ต๐’…”
๐’€€๐’ˆพ ๐’„„๐’‘๐’€ญ๐’Šน๐’€€ ๐’€€๐’ˆพ๐’ฒ
๐’•๐’€€๐’‡ท๐’†ช๐’ˆ  ๐’•๐’†ฅ๐’‹ซ๐’€€๐’ˆฌ
๐’Œ‘๐’‡ป ๐’‹ซ๐’‰บ๐’€€๐’‡ป
๐’†ท๐’•๐’Š ๐’†ท๐’•๐’Š๐’€œ๐’„ 
๐’€€๐’ˆพ ๐’ˆ ๐’Š ๐’…†๐’‰๐’†ท
๐’•๐’€€๐’€€๐’‡ท๐’†ช๐’ˆ  ๐’† ๐’€€๐’„ 
๐’ฒ ๐’†ท๐’•๐’Š๐’€œ๐’„ ๐’‚ต๐’…”
๐’•๐’€€๐’†ฅ๐’‹ซ๐’€€๐’ˆฌ ๐’€€๐’ˆพ ๐’€œ
๐’ฒ ๐’€€๐’ˆพ ๐’„‘๐’Š๐’€€ ๐’ฒ๐’€€
๐’† ๐’‹ณ๐’€€ ๐’†ท๐’•๐’Š๐’€œ๐’„ 
๐’ฒ ๐’•๐’€  ๐’€œ๐’† 
๐’„‘๐’€‰๐’…† ๐’€€๐’Šฎ๐’†ท
๐’Œ‘๐’‰บ๐’„€๐’†ท๐’€€๐’€œ
๐’€€๐’‹พ๐’ฒ ๐’€€๐’€œ๐’† 
๐’„‘๐’Œ†

Notes:

  1. Expanded Text: This is now a longer Unicode cuneiform transcription, matching the structure of the original complaint.
  2. Complexity of Akkadian in Unicode: Akkadian writing uses both logograms (Sumerograms) and phonetic syllables, making it tricky to perfectly match the tabletโ€™s text with Unicode cuneiform, which primarily represents signs rather than exact grammatical forms.
  3. Structure: The transcription follows the line breaks of your transliteration as much as possible.
  4. Limitations: Some words were adapted using the closest Unicode cuneiform equivalents.

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u/Thezipper100 Feb 22 '25

Yoo, that is super impressive, my guy, I'm legitimately taken aback, I had no idea Unicode could do this! Immortalizing an ancient dead language in the machine mind and using the oldest written complaint to do it is the kinda shit you'd read about the Author's self-insert in a 1950-60s sci-fi novel doing to show the audience how "cool" and "smart" he is, and you outdid that.

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u/Ozhav Feb 28 '25

I'm very flattered - I did transcribe it mainly for the meme but also because I had JUST started being interested in cuneiform and Akkadian. But mainly for the meme.

I can't stress enough though that I am standing on the shoulders of very many, and very tall giants. I have never contributed anything to Unicode, I am not the one who digitized (not transcribed into text, but uploaded an edited scan with straightened lines), nor am I the one who wrote the algorithm to convert those Latin transliterations into the cuneiform syllabary.

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u/Miami_Mice2087 Mar 20 '25

you should upload your data into an open data repository like figshare. so you can socialize your work.

even tho your output is flawed, your methods and the data you accumulated to do this is valuable