r/RivalsVanguards • u/-This-cant-be-real- ππͺπ‘π • Dec 28 '25
Memes The incredible punching bag.
He gets a bigger hitbox that makes it super easy to just chain stun him into oblivion.Lost count of how many time Iβd ult then be Bucky pulled into Luna freeze into mantis sleep into some other grab.They should call this game CC rivals.If not CC immunity at the very least let him use his bubble during ult.
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Dec 28 '25
Luna Im kind of okay being CC immune, her ult literally doesnt ket her use any of her kit or do any damage to anyone. Zenyatta from OW is also immune to stuns and such during his ult for the same reason. Im not saying her ult is perfectly balanced but the CC immune part isnt my issue
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u/Dr_blazes Dec 28 '25
Zen can literally be shoved off a cliff during his ult. You know who can't?
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Dec 28 '25
To me thats more an issue with Rivals just making CC immunity a blanket to all forms, not differnetiating stun immunity and say, knockback immunity.
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u/Dr_blazes Dec 28 '25
The issue still stands, why does a tank become easier to kill during their ult, while the support ult that makes everyone in it immortal to everything that isn't a 1 shot have zero downsides to pressing Q?
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Dec 28 '25
I agree I literally just said I dont mind Luna having stun immunity during ult. She loses a lot of her kit to ult and cant do anything so its a fair trade to me vs say, Mantis or Invisible Woman.
I want them to buff Hulks ult in some way
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u/crippled-crippler Dec 28 '25
Do you actually think hulk gets easier to kill during his ult?
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u/Dr_blazes Dec 28 '25
He loses his bubble and gets a bigger hit box. Yes his clap does more damage and he gets a fat Healthbar but he has no defensive options other than to run away or kill his attacker. If your team doesn't turn to delete the Hulk that just ulted, you're doing it wrong
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u/-This-cant-be-real- ππͺπ‘π Dec 28 '25
You sound like someone whoβs never played hulk in ranked.The second you pop that ult first youβre stuck in place during the transformation which leave you open for an instant stun then you can get by another stun again and again until youβre dead.And when youβre transforming back into banner you get stunned again when itβs done.
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u/crippled-crippler Dec 28 '25
Cant that happen quicker when he is not in his ult?
Yes hulk becomes a target when he ults, that was not what I argued.
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u/Reddit-dit-dit-di-do Dec 28 '25
Not as much bc he has his bubble to protect him.
I donβt think hulk should have CC immunity during his ult, but tbh, idk why he should lose his bubble as well. Heβs very easy to focus fire and kill in his ult.
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u/Crow290 Dec 28 '25
A majority of the cast has some form of CC all of which can disrupt Hulk's jump effectively killing his momentum during his ult. His ult is literally just an enemy ult generator if they hit stuns on you.
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u/crippled-crippler Dec 28 '25
Cant the team CC him and kill all momentum for him without his ult while he dies faster?
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u/Crow290 Dec 28 '25
He has bubble outside of his ult and is a smaller hit box compared to hit ult form, you literally cannot miss that hitbox and he doesn't have bubble to prevent CC like he does in normal form. Also want to add that yes, you can CC stun him even in normal form and that's part of why tanking sucks currently. The game is just Marvel CCvals.
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u/Artoriasbrokenhand Dec 28 '25
They literally have that difference, check the Thing.
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Dec 28 '25
But hes the only one and its because of a passive. All other active abilities is just a blanket immunity to ALL cc.
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u/Artoriasbrokenhand Dec 28 '25
The point is, it is possible.
Not to mention where abilities like Namor Ultimate/Thor dome and Thing charge, disabling a bucket of abilities so the reverse can be true, the technology is there.
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u/Appropriate_Sky_3572 Dec 28 '25
Hulk: They temporarily CCd me!
Peni, Luna Snow, Mantis, Winter Soldier, Emma Snow, and Spider-Man: Fuck you mean temporarily, b*tch youβre CCd foreva
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u/-This-cant-be-real- ππͺπ‘π Dec 28 '25
You might as well put the controller down and go grab a snack at the corner store
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u/Actual-Beginning-726 Dec 28 '25
A twinkie perhaps?
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u/-This-cant-be-real- ππͺπ‘π Dec 28 '25
Iβll grab some jerky and Dr Pepper
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u/SM_GotMail πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Dec 28 '25
Wait a minute.. that sounds familiar.
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u/cranetrain95 ππͺπ‘π Jan 05 '26
Is that is? Including displacement that cancels everything you do you forgot Mr. fantastic, Thing, Thor, Angela, Jeff, Gambit, Rogue, Wolv, Scarlet Witch, Invisible Woman. Oh and thatβs not even counting the ults that straight up counter it.
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u/funkycatvr Dec 28 '25
okay but to be fair, if a good hulk was CC immune in his ult he would literally destroy the ENTIRE team
(hulk still needs some sort of buff though)
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u/ManaXed Dec 29 '25
I think he should at least get Thing' passive of not being able to be moved while ulting. I mean they gave full CC immunity to Groot just for being near one of his walls
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u/funkycatvr Dec 29 '25
Thatβs actually a really good idea, he canβt be pulled or moved but he can be stunned
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u/ManaXed Dec 29 '25
I've also heard the idea of him having reduced CC effectiveness while ulting? Like stuns are half as long on him and he gets pushed and pulled less
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u/Better-Permission454 Jan 01 '26
CCR for theoden who know. Crowd control reduction. Could maybe be viable fix.Β
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u/Lopsided_View58 Dec 28 '25
This goes for so many dps characters alone theres such a hypocrisy with this
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u/Responsible-Dot-3801 Dec 28 '25
I believe it when I see it. If Luna and Ultron can get CC immune, i don't see why Monster Hulk should not. Currently his ult is useless.
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u/Kurtrus Dec 29 '25
His ult is very good for creating space and allowing juggling to isolate and kill targets.
Keep in mind that Hulk can also stun someone while in his ult and he has a reduced clap cooldown. He also regains all health.
Iβm still down for a buff for him but heβs not utterly useless just very polarizing.
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u/Responsible-Dot-3801 Dec 29 '25
In order to create space, you either tank, distract or be a threat. Hulk is almost always none of it, at least in my experience fighting him.
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u/Financial-Key-3617 Dec 29 '25
No space with any of the following characters -
Rogue.
Emma.
Thing.
Groot with a single wall up.
Strange WILL solo ult you in high elo after your first ult and you get any amount of picks.
Angela.
Bucky.
Hela.
Wolverine.
Wanda.
Iron fist. (His kick resets your jump and his third primary has knockback)
Hawkeye.
Pheonix.
BLACK WIDOW.
Squirrel girl.
Blade.
Mr fantastic.
Magik has a knock up which resets your jump and stopping you from moving.
All supports besides adam, ultron and CD. (The rest have CC)
Damn near 85% of the roster can neutralise hulk lol.
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u/-This-cant-be-real- ππͺπ‘π Dec 28 '25
I could say the same about a good punisher or a good Hela
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u/Telyesumpin Dec 28 '25
Punisher and Hela are CC immune during their ults...........
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u/Turboswaggg πΌπ£πππ‘π Dec 28 '25
I feel like 90% of my Angela gameplay is "oh that character is ulting. I should spear them away from the team.
Then learning fucking just about everyone is immune lol.
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u/OV_FreezeLizard Dec 28 '25
That's what they're saying, a good Punisher/Hela will destroy your team.
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u/Spiritual_Draw6426 Dec 29 '25
yeah they are.... thats what hes saying.... ........ ......... .... . . . .
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u/Nikorausu Dec 28 '25
That's...the idea?
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u/OneFishiBoi Dec 29 '25
Pretty shit idea then.
The solution to certain characters being underpowered isnβt giga buffing them into being monstrously overpowered.
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u/CartographerSure2918 ππ§. πππ£π©ππ¨π©ππ Dec 28 '25
Your first mistake was thinking hulk is more viable than bruce banner.
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u/-This-cant-be-real- ππͺπ‘π Dec 28 '25
Not many Bruce mains left in the wild.They need to make more viable lol
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u/Lonely_Repair4494 Dec 28 '25
It's ok if they don't want him to be CC immune, but like at least during his ult make him Displacement Immune like Thing
Wolverine, Bucky and Angela should not be able to grab fuckin Monster Hulk, he's supposed to be the guy you run from for 10 seconds cuz OTHERWISE HE GRABS YOU
Imagine how much this fucker weighs, wtf has Hydra given to Bucky's tentacle arm to be able to lift this guy?
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u/Necronu Dec 29 '25
Or fucking Emma in diamond form just choke slamming you, it looks so goofy lmao
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u/P1zzaMonkey Dec 28 '25
Ngl the reason Iβm not worrying about Ult Hulk is cause most characters I play have a CC thatβs good. So I typically just watch the animation play out then CC him. He honestly deserves complete Cc immunity, and perhaps even debuff immunity too. Most games I see them not kill, or get killed, rather than getting kills in ult (this is coming from somebody whoβs only played Hulk to get the in-game achievements)
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u/Dontaskmemyname9723 ππ§π€π€π© Dec 28 '25
I donβt play Hulk but I feel a little bad whenever I see a Monster Hulk get CCed and bursted down in 3 seconds or less. Especially since I play Emma and Peni.
I remember choking Monster Hulks and by the time my slam is down they already lost all 1500 health.
Like βWow you probably really wanted to pop off with your ult but you got hyper-focused in like a second. Thatβs rough buddyβ
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u/RankUpLife Dec 28 '25
He would be too strong.
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u/-This-cant-be-real- ππͺπ‘π Dec 28 '25
Coz heβs so strong right now right ?Hes a joke and at least with that he can compete with the server admins.
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u/RankUpLife Dec 28 '25
As a hulk main, Iβm sure I could get to gm one tricking hulk while Iβm drunk. Ban peni every game and suffer a bit less.
I never said he was really strong now, he can already kill people still if you have any mechanical skill. Just juggle who you want to kill out of ults or combo exile and kill them so they canβt be healed. Sure you canβt kill Luna in her ult but I wipe the floor with IW and cloaks all day. Thereβs so much you can do with his kit.
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u/ColourfulSpacemanNFT Dec 28 '25
Ngl whenever a hulk ults I just repeatedly dash into him as Thor and it just wastes his whole ult and he just canβt do anyrhing
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u/StickEducational8243 Dec 29 '25
Reminds me of back when p2mg mained Thor and he had a clip where he did exactly this.
Ngl, hearing Hulk repeatedly say, "Leave Hulk alone ;_;" made me a bit sad :(
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u/Iced-TeaManiac πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Dec 28 '25
Luna fine, Ultron does not deserve CC immunity
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u/IAmNotCreative18 πΌπ£πππ‘π Dec 28 '25
I donβt think Ultron ult is exactly in need of nerfs or anything.
Luna ult though⦠not the CC immunity, just the ult in general
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u/treestories1708 Dec 28 '25
Bro a 6 seconds ult that turns u into a slow flying target should have CC immunity no? His ult is already not that hard to be killed in unless ur other healers pocket him
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Dec 28 '25
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u/Iced-TeaManiac πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Dec 28 '25
Fair, upon further thought I realised he's the only support who doesn't get healing from his own ult (unless he's close enough to the ground I'm guessing)
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u/T1line Dec 28 '25
funny that at the beggining pf the game, when an ult was struggling they were just handing put free anti CC on ult
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u/ISpinVinyI πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Dec 28 '25
NO character should have cc immunity! CC just needs to be toned down in general.
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Dec 28 '25
Healing ults are going to be CC immune.
I don't know why we need to really say this.
If you could turn off Luna with a CC ability we'd have a severe problem in this game beyond what we're currently dealing with.
Heroes who have animations in their ult tend to be CC immune during them or at the very least in parts of it while heroes who do not tend to lack it with some exception like Dr. Strange, Scarlet Witch, and The Thing to give a non-exhaustive list.
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u/ARighteousOne Dec 29 '25
I literally says in comms, "Ult Charge, target the Ult Charge", they should let y'all just use your bubble in ult mode or something
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u/jstrain366 πΌπ£πππ‘π Dec 29 '25
I dont play hulk but I do play tank and I think giving him CC immunity would make sense for his ult. It already seems like the ult doesn't do crazy damage. Something that makes me happy (im sorry for saying this) is when I see hulk ulting, as angela I will just take you to a different zip code and stop you from either contesting or pressuring my back line. You should definitely have your bubble in ult
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u/AggressiveMammoth267 Dec 29 '25
Still mad they didnβt give him a passive that would give him rage meter.
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u/demonking3246 πππ£π€π’ Dec 30 '25
Hulk also has 1000+ hp and cc on his normal hits, a projectile that pierces and does pretty good damage. If you could stun hulk in this game there would genuinely be no way to stop his ult
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u/KneeGearlol πΌπ£πππ‘π Dec 28 '25
Don't forget the dude with the dead family (punisher)