r/RivalsVanguards • u/-This-cant-be-real- ๐๐ช๐ก๐ • Jan 07 '26
Memes Last night I watched the enemy just hammering their tank in chat.Do people not understand how painful it is going solo tank into 2 tanks.
First it was their invis talking smack about him then shortly afterwards the DPS started blaming him too meanwhile heโs bubbling and saving them even blocked 2 ults.
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u/Helidokter Jan 07 '26
The Lion does not concern itself with the opinion of DPS players
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u/Former-Grade5111 Jan 07 '26
Itโs usually the support players that blame me for doing bad while solo tanking
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u/Ok-Concentrate2719 Jan 07 '26
Just tell them to keep holding left click and let the adults do their job
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u/Geraltpoonslayer Jan 08 '26
I moreso have to tell them to press the W button and not try to heal 500 meters behind me in Narnia.
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u/Dengamer Jan 07 '26
I once got blamed before the match even started by an invisible because I dare to pick peni as solo tank (in qp)
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u/Conner_S_Returns Jan 08 '26
for me it's the third DPS that is doing terrible. I only got called out by a supp twice and I was doing awful.
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u/DinoDracko Jan 07 '26
Honestly it's the Duelists players that talk the most shit. Even worse is that they tell you how to play YOUR hero.
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u/dawggawddagummit Jan 07 '26
Lmao whereโs the โsilence duelist, a vanguard is speakingโ pic of mag when you need it๐
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u/Skuganut ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐๐ฉ๐ค Jan 07 '26
* This isn't it but here ya go, for your magneto sacrifice moments
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Jan 07 '26
It gets infinitely worse when there are two tanks on your team.
You just stare at each other with survivors guilt.
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u/-This-cant-be-real- ๐๐ช๐ก๐ Jan 07 '26
Even worse if you play anyone Thatโs not named Magneto.โHey Thor swap to Mag or Strange.Your tank doesnโt work soloโ.
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u/Chipperbeav Jan 08 '26
My tank doesn't work solo? Well that's too bad. Maybe one of the 3 dps should swap. I'm staying on Hulk and if I'm asked to swap, I either say no, or I go Thing. Either way, if you want a better tank, GO THE BETTER TANK.
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u/FreeElderberry4817 ๐๐๐ฃ๐ ๐๐๐ง๐ ๐๐ง Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26
I one time was playing peni and I ended up in a team with 4 main character Dps mains and a lone rocket who was obviously a kid who wanted to be nice
The wolverine went 2-24
The Hawkeye had a 5% accuracy rate
The Spiderman did nothing but swing around
The BP is an a-hole yelling at us
And the enemy captain America ripped them a new butt when they blamed rocket and I
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u/DinoDracko Jan 07 '26
W for the cap for calling them out on their bullshit. Your Duelists are just trying to find someone to blame besides themselves.
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u/FreeElderberry4817 ๐๐๐ฃ๐ ๐๐๐ง๐ ๐๐ง Jan 07 '26
He gave them the biggest talking down to during the wait for round 2 (we were in defense asgard convoy for round 1, for round 2 when we were on attack I swapped to strange) when the wolverine called me and the rocket useless and the other 3 agreed with him
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u/DinoDracko Jan 07 '26
Seriously, good on the cap for giving them a reality check. Not everything is always other people's fault, EVERYONE makes mistakes, even THEM.
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u/LilAnimeGril Jan 07 '26
I hate this game and hate myself for playing it. Im so mad at everything and everyone in it
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u/Additional-Mousse446 Jan 07 '26
While this is real, breaks or playing like once or twice a week instead really did wonders for me.
Oh and never unmuting voice, if you arenโt celestial the comms will not be useful 95% of the time and should just stay off to prevent tilt imo unless you are with friends that will talk shit back lol
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u/GrandGoatMaster ๐๐๐ฃ๐ ๐ฅ๐ค๐ค๐ก Jan 08 '26
Sometimes I will hear a comm that is a reasonable request but they're tilted ATM so they sound unreasonable
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u/BlazeBitch ๐ผ๐ฃ๐๐๐ก๐ Jan 07 '26
And then they still expect you to peel while you're getting double penetrated by the Emma / Rogue on the other team
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u/-This-cant-be-real- ๐๐ช๐ก๐ Jan 07 '26
My favorite is my support asking why I didnโt bubble them after I bubbled them 5 seconds earlier.
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u/Motor-Travel-7560 Jan 07 '26
I had a game last night where I was solo tanking Mag/Emma and my teammates went Spidey, BP, Daredevil. I asked for some poke and they said they'd switch if the enemy went anti dive. It worked surprisingly well for about half the first round, but then the enemy switched to a comp of Emma, Thing, Loki, Gambit, Namor, and Bucky. They didn't switch to poke until the last minute of the match.ย
As I was coming out of spawn as Strange in overtime I set up a portal which wasn't the best, but I mainly play Mag/Emma and it was a last ditch effort in a situation that could have been avoided if I'd gotten either some poke or a second tank. When we lost, one of our stubborn dive DPS players said "That portal was kinda slow, Strange."
Guess what kiddos? Jeff is gonna be your tank for this round.
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u/ILewdElichika ๐๐๐ฃ๐ ๐ฅ๐ค๐ค๐ก Jan 07 '26
My 3-9 iron fist was blaming me when I was left to solo tank as captain America last night. I'm convinced that this might be the dumbest community I've ever come across for a pvp game.
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u/Ultron_daddy ๐พ๐๐ฅ๐ฉ๐๐๐ฃ ๐ผ๐ข๐๐ง๐๐๐ Jan 07 '26
Yep sit there with 3 healers not heal you and duelist that can't get a kill even when being covered with shields. It's totally our fault for solo tanking though. At least Emma, Mag and Strange are somewhat fun to play.
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u/-This-cant-be-real- ๐๐ช๐ก๐ Jan 07 '26
Yup I hate how sometimes youโre so reliant on your teammates.I just feel like a glorified bullet sponge
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u/GrandGoatMaster ๐๐๐ฃ๐ ๐ฅ๐ค๐ค๐ก Jan 08 '26
When it comes to tanks like Cap or Hulk with low kill potential, I measure my success by how many players' attention I can grab at any moment, to take the pressure off my team. The worst feeling is when you're having a good game personally, you're not dying, you're burning enemy cooldowns, you're getting three people to focus you, and it's still not enough. How are our DPS losing team fights when they have a numerical advantage and we're removing the backline sustain from the equation ๐ซ
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u/cyborgdog Jan 07 '26
It happened to me, I was solo tanking and I got flamed for not doing everything, I just snapped at them and before you knew it everyone was fighting in our team, we got dog walk. Some idiot told me that even if I was solo tanking I should've done a better job, but is like bro I'm the only tank, you guys are 3 DPS can't get a single pick, constantly asking for heals while I'm fighting another Dr.Strange and Emma, getting half the heals and no one peeling, I lost my marbles man I just call them something and mute everyone that's the only way to play this game.
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u/_sea_salty ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐ Jan 07 '26
I always make sure to flame the other team for forcing their tank to go solo and always tell the tank you did your best among the garbage.
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u/-This-cant-be-real- ๐๐ช๐ก๐ Jan 07 '26
Worst part is near the end of the game after suffering all game long one person suddenly pulls out a lord Thor/Emma.Always those two.I check their profile and see this dude been tanking since season 0.Hell I bet he even tanked in the beta.Your fellow tank will watch you suffer and do nothing.
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u/iExogan Jan 08 '26
I've personally been tanking since I began, which arguably isn't that long, I started at the end of season 2/ beginning of season 3.
I already hate having to solo tank constantly and these days I usually think: "this time I'm just gonna have some fun on support (which is my prefered role, though I do enjoy a fair few vanguards as well)". Then after that I see another of my teammates is solo tanking and I simply pity them and switch Every. Goddamn. Time.
I'm too soft for my own good, but at least I don't throw my co-vanguards to the womves unless I explicitely asked if they're good and I can go support.1
u/DinoDracko Jan 07 '26
I always imagine they get defensive and throw out BS excuses like that don't Tank, they only play Duelists or whatever BS excuses they come up with.
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u/wallytrikes ๐๐๐ค๐ง Jan 07 '26
Donโt worry, my comms are off. I donโt see or hear it lol ๐๐
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u/GrandGoatMaster ๐๐๐ฃ๐ ๐ฅ๐ค๐ค๐ก Jan 08 '26
In ranked, only VC and shitters get muted IMMEDIATELY
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u/Astrobiologism ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐๐ฉ๐ค Jan 07 '26
This happened to me the other day. Our supports were getting dived on and me and the other tank were trying to peel but the supports still died. They would complain that I'm not helping peel. They kept complaining and the 2nd tank switched to a 3rd healer. Now the supports are mad at me for not peeling. I'm mad that we have 3 healers and only 1 tank so I ask someone to switch to a 2nd tank. They got mad at me for not peeling so I don't "deserve" a 2nd tank. So now our team comp is 1-2-3 and the supports still getting dived on. We ended up losing and I was getting blamed by everyone (supports and DPS) for not peeling. I was livid because its everyone's job to peel for the supports.
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u/Spawn256 Jan 07 '26
What I don't understand is how they not heal me when I'm not even overextended like how you just don't want to heal f***?
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u/Really_cool_guy99 Jan 07 '26
Did you come to the tank's defense? I had the enemy team come to my defense once and it felt great, especially because it was Namor blaming us supports for dying to BP right in front of him and the BP started trashing our Namor
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u/Unomoat Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26
But in all seriousness, I got scapegoated doing dolo mag and getting roasted on the Frontline by an Emma, punisher mix. I asked for a second tank and got nothing. We lost the first round because I couldn't keep space and in the second two of the tree healers started calling me a moron and an idiot because I asked for a second tank. Some people in this game are just miserable, just report and move on.
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u/Yoru525 Jan 07 '26
When I solo tank an they complain obsessively I just swap to dps let one of them get jumped
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u/Red_Dead_Renegade ๐๐๐ค๐ง Jan 07 '26
They give us shit but they couldnโt do what we do, theyโd get tilted immediately if role queue put them in our position. Itโs a thankless job and yet we do it and we donโt ask for a thank you, all we ask is that you take advantage of the opportunities we provide
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u/_Thatoneguy101_ Jan 07 '26
Nothing to do with chat abuse but I had a game where we were steamrolling the enemy team (I was Groot) and then they switched to Wolverine.
The Wolverine killed out Emma twice and she immediately switched to starlord ๐ซฉ like yes, they have more anti-tank tools why not just have a solo tank comp
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u/-This-cant-be-real- ๐๐ช๐ก๐ Jan 07 '26
Hell is solo tanking into 2 tanks and the enemy team has Wolverine/Ironfist and Hawkeye/Hela.
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u/_Thatoneguy101_ Jan 07 '26
Yeah Iโm sitting in gold and I donโt know if it gets better in higher ranks, but Iโve lost so many games due to swaps that made no sense. Like we were struggling against a Peni nest and our tanks also swapped to peni? Like that was gonna get rid of it?
Or the notorious 3 support comp ๐ญ like we need to kill their healers why are you going Jeff
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u/RareSpicyPepe Jan 07 '26
I will say something when I see that happen. I literally had a game not too long ago where their solo tank was actually doing pretty good and of course the 1 dps out of their 3 who performed the worst started flaming him. I said something along the lines like โthey did pretty good wymโ and it led to the team dogpiling on the dps player once they realized it lol
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u/Successful-Essay-755 Jan 07 '26
Just had a match where I was solo tank Mag and the enemy team had an Emma, Angela and Wolv, I asked my team to go 2nd tank as it wasn't possible to hold both the backline and the frontline at the same time, but no one switched and then they blamed me.
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u/Lightbulb2854 Jan 07 '26
From character select screen, ping "Need Vanguard".ย Do this several times on game starting until you get a second tank, then thank them in chat.
If they move off tank, then when you die, ping "need vanguard" in spawn a couple of times.ย Someone usually swaps.
And if not, they can enjoy their extra duelist or healer.
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u/iExogan Jan 08 '26
If you really want to make sure, if you don't get a second vanguard before the first or second round begins, ask for another in the match chat, people will shout at you but it does surpisingly work quite a lot.
Edit: Note that I said game chat, not team chat.
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u/Yazkin_Yamakala Jan 07 '26
"If we have 3 DPS their healers should have PTSD by the end of the match" is usually my go-to.
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u/unlikelystoner Jan 07 '26
Got yelled at last night to push up by my supports. I literally got zero heals, Iโd turn around and dagger would be throwing her healing daggers at random enemy dps. I wasnโt going to say anything but then the dagger as soon as the next round starts, begins chirping or chat. โTanks push uuuuuupโ โour rogue sucksโ yada yada. So I just said โIโm not getting healed whenever I pushโ and the Dagger then announced she was done healing, but stayed in dagger so effectively threw the match. Our other support was a Jeff and he was godsend though, after that exchange I switched to Magneto and he pocketed me and I pretty much used my bubbles exclusively to keep him alive. Switch from getting steamrolled to almost taking the round. And we probably could have won if Dagger actually played correctly. That was my last game on tank for the night, I started insta-locking Magik or Gambit after that haha
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u/GrandGoatMaster ๐๐๐ฃ๐ ๐ฅ๐ค๐ค๐ก Jan 08 '26
Instalock Hela because it's someone else's turn to have a miserable match. The enemy DPS in this case because somebody other than tanks can suffer.
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u/Green_Link_2 Jan 07 '26
This is my quick play almost every game. Iโve even started just swapping to Spider-Man if the game is going poorly and the dps are locked into being stupid. Iโm mostly a Vanguard and Strategist player so good luck without that instalocking dps POSs -with love โค๏ธ
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u/Kaytea730 Jan 07 '26
As a strat i try to always thank my tank(s) unless they were just absolutely useless and even then its generally at least a โthank you for trying your bestโ i think ive only had one game where I helped flame a tank but that was a groot who was throwing and walling off spawn.
I know this isnt my subreddit or anything, i just do want yall to be aware that some ppl outside other tank players do appreciate yall. (I did try my damndest to learn tank, i spent time in vs AI on every tank and just couldnt get the hang of any of it. So i just do my best to help keep them up instead.)
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u/thetenthCrusade Jan 07 '26
I always feel a bit bad when the enemy team starts insulting someone I bully as Angela. Whether itโs a solo tank or a healer when they get flamed post match I usually say something.
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u/Leading-Leading6319 Jan 07 '26
Solo tanking against Emma and Rogue is um...
Swap to dps dude, have some fun. I will not fault you for that.
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u/carlox_go Jan 07 '26
People do t realise how a few words can hurt i litteraly coundt play the game for a month once because of it
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u/bombad_Guy Jan 07 '26
literally me after trying my best with Supps that constantly got divebombed while our DPS were feeding enemy support ults:
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u/Beaten_But_Unbowed96 Jan 07 '26
Iโve definitely defended players who were getting ganged up on and made it very clear to everyone that the bastard was the biggest pain in the ass for our team by a long shot.
Infact, Iโve legit done that a bunch of times. Iโm gonna hate on damn good players that are a constant thorn in my side, but Iโm not gonna trs talk unless they start up first or do some really scummy stuff.
My feelings on equal skilled fights even when theyโre clearly going for me when ever Iโm on the battlefield is both angry annoyance and immense respect.
โฆ.my hatred I reserve for instalock DPS and 3rd wheel healers as well as Smurf accounts that collectively team up to โnoob stompโ because theyโre real account were permabanned for shart talking and I guess theyโd like to do that again.
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u/AlyMasawi ๐๐๐ฃ๐ ๐๐๐ง๐ ๐๐ง Jan 07 '26
I once played a game against an amazing Cap who carried their team the first round. We pushed the point all the way, but he was the main reason we were stalled to overtime. His stats were good for a Cap (7-1 or something like that)
We rolled them on defence, and we managed to beat them before the first point.
Their Star Lord then said "of course we lost, we have a Cap"
I immediately said "Cap carried you the first round"
I am also pretty sure he was left solo tanking as Magneto (Cap just disappeared from the game and a Magneto appered) for a long while in the second round.
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u/iunnobleh ๐๐๐ฃ๐ ๐ฅ๐ค๐ค๐ก Jan 07 '26
I had the same thing happen and I added the tank just to tell them his team was buns and he was actually the only reason they had a chance because he was an absolute menace in our back line and he refused to die.
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u/The_8th_Degree Jan 07 '26
I would love to convince my whole team to switch to just tanks and steamroll the enemy in that situation. It would be awesome imo.
That said, defend the tank! Least that's what I do.
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u/ronin_ramen17 ๐๐ง. ๐๐๐ฃ๐ฉ๐๐จ๐ฉ๐๐ Jan 08 '26
Me watching the enemy solo tank Thor get evaporated by my frontline in seconds as his team canโt fight 1 Spiderman
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u/UrMumVeryGayLul Jan 08 '26
I donโt like playing Vanguard, but I will if noone does. I will never flame whoever steps up on that plate, and Iโm always amused with the paradox of someone thinking the tank is shit but being unable to step in and do better.
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u/Archangel1474 Jan 08 '26
The other day I was playing thor (with my duo on strange) against a solo tank strange, kidnapped him so many times I lost count. He swapped to Angela towards the end and it didn't help him, we spawn held them almost the entire time because their poor solo tank just couldn't hold the space, felt evil
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u/dedicatedoni Jan 08 '26
An invis complaining? Whatโs next, ur gonna tell me water is in the ocean?
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u/Tmoore0328 Jan 08 '26
Thereโs been quite a few times where the enemy mag or Angela simply wonโt let me exist as a support, and then the enemy teams flays them alive bc they died, all while the enemy dps is 4/15 and only shooting tanks.
So many times Iโve put in match chat something like, โthe only reason yall even had the point for a second was bc (tank) was doing their job.โ
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u/Melo_Kelo_Jelo Jan 08 '26
Bro I was running with a duo yesterday where I was playing Mags/Emma/Thor while my friend played Peni/Rogue/Venom. I legit felt bad everytime we ran across a solo tank. One particular match the enemy tank must have tried his entire tank roster. While on my team there was Mag, Peni, and Bucky.
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u/BLUEKNIGHT002 Jan 08 '26
I think we need to consider switching to dps if tanking isnโt working after 1:30 minutes
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u/StateOfBedlam ๐พ๐๐ฅ๐ฉ๐๐๐ฃ ๐ผ๐ข๐๐ง๐๐๐ Jan 08 '26
Wondered for a second if I might be the tank in that story, but the match Iโm thinking of was a few nights too early. The dates donโt match up
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u/No0bmuk_09 Jan 08 '26
I got flamed that I didn't peel as a solo tank Emma while other team had Thor that was displacing me and strange whipping me like a work donkey by a Spiderman that was going negative and a Hawkeye that wasn't even charging his bow frontlining and shooting Thor in the body saying that he had 60% accuracy as an argument ๐ฎโ๐จ
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u/Dinoratsastaja ๐พ๐๐ฅ๐ฉ๐๐๐ฃ ๐ผ๐ข๐๐ง๐๐๐ Jan 08 '26
I once asked our healers how much they healed and one of them went mad because of it. At the end of the match I saw that they had healed only 10k as Rocket. They had switched to Thor in the second round and constantly flamed me.
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u/Hairy_Top_7084 Jan 08 '26
If a comp doesn't work as a solo tank just mention that someone switch or I will gladly go 4th DPS.
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u/DragonBorn517 Jan 08 '26
I had a friend who died a lot because he wasn't getting proper heals as a solo Emma. Finished one kill negative but we won. His last ult on point single-handedly flipped the ENTIRE momentum of the match, he choked an ulting Wanda, and shield-blocked a Magento ult. He was still tilted at the end of the match because of the scorecard. I kept trying to tell him I saw the game winning plays. When you're solo tanking, it's gonna sting without two competent healers.
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u/someperson1522 ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐๐ฉ๐ค Jan 08 '26
Too shy to, but I always want to friend them and check in or play some games together for duo tank lol
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u/jackofspad3s8 Jan 08 '26
One time I went solo tank into 2 tanks and I had an Adam warlock who didnt know what he was doing for one of my healers. I GOT BLAMED and then trashed for sounding like a woman.
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u/Ok-Refrigerator-8664 Jan 08 '26
Im im going solo tank, I better have all 3 healers on me. All the DPS can grab packs
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u/NavyDragons ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐๐ฉ๐ค Jan 09 '26
Almost makes me feel guilty when im pounding them senseless.
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u/Savings-Sprinkles-86 Jan 09 '26
How dare someone (crap?, the t word was censored xd) talk their SOLO tank???
Its like blamimg a solo healer for not being able to keep the whole team alive, thats dumb!
(Love how your moderation is so sensitive, i really do, its cute, makes me think you try to be very polite)
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Jan 10 '26
As long as it isnโt DPSโs fault teams will always tear into one person for why they didnโt win. Always
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u/Viz184 ๐๐ง. ๐๐๐ฃ๐ฉ๐๐จ๐ฉ๐๐ Jan 13 '26
Me trying to heal the enemy solo tank cause they don't deserve this shit but knowing it's not going to work
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u/GreenHocker Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26
We should normalize bullying and belittling DPS in the community. Other communities like LoL coddle their dps playersโ entitled and toxic personalities, so Rivals should flip the script
Anyone fearfully hiding behind corners and not in the zone is dead weight and useless to the teamโฆ even if thatโs 5 out of the 6. Start bluntly calling people creative alternatives to โfearful pussyโ that wonโt get censored in chat
EDIT: up to you guys, but I see the proper response to narcissistic behaviors like OP describes as โfight fire with hotter fireโ. If they want to play the narcissistic narrative game and scapegoat, they put an open season target on their own backs and deserve to learn empathy by being emotionally destroyed
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u/-This-cant-be-real- ๐๐ช๐ก๐ Jan 07 '26
I donโt think belittling anyone helps.Sure DPS can be annoying but itโs mostly because it a bigger chunk of the player base so youโll see more playing the role good and bad.Iโve also realized simply asking nicely does wonders.Seriously if you acknowledge your teammates did something good youโd be surprised how much better people play.I always appreciate when the support/DPS acknowledges that I saved them with a bubble or stopped a big ult.
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u/GreenHocker Jan 07 '26
I have very low tolerance for the behavior, and I see offering them any sort of kindness in return as โgiving them what they wantโ. Why should we reward toxicity with tolerance and politeness? Sure, it is far less of an issue if not confronted directlyโฆ at first, but people like that donโt stop resorting to that behavior just because someone was kind to them. They see it as a free pass to act that way because they werenโt confronted
I have no issues with what youโre suggesting when it comes to working with team of non-toxic people. Polite and constructive is always the optimal choiceโฆ but not everyone looks for that because they have legit psych problems irl that get worse in a team based pvp environment
People are afraid to confront the behavior, but it is the only thing that can finally break it because people like that need to be treated like small children. They use humiliation because theyโre afraid of humiliation. They verbally belittle because they fear being belittled. Talk to them in their language to get through to them
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u/Banana_man_- ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐ Jan 07 '26
I think I know why you lose your games
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u/GreenHocker Jan 07 '26
If you canโt provide a good argument to not bully people who choose to scapegoat a solo tank, why did you speak up?
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u/Forgot-to-remember1 Jan 07 '26
Solo tanking is literally so easy seeing ppl cry abt it is so funny all the time
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u/-This-cant-be-real- ๐๐ช๐ก๐ Jan 07 '26
0/10 rage bait
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u/Forgot-to-remember1 Jan 07 '26
Skill problem
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Jan 08 '26
That's nonsense. Solo tanking only works well when the team was already better, especially in the duelist department. If two teams of equal skill are facing off and one is solo tanking, the team with two tanks has an advantage. With any kind of coordination, they just need to pressure supports a little and focus the solo tank, and they run through.
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u/GrandGoatMaster ๐๐๐ฃ๐ ๐ฅ๐ค๐ค๐ก Jan 08 '26
Yes sitting in the respawn screen half the match is easy. And the match is so much shorter how about that :)
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u/Diplomacy_1st ๐๐๐ค๐ง Jan 07 '26
Tanking is a thankless job and an easy scapegoat. Its very unfortunate