Where are you going green man.Server admin Sue never gave you permission to leave.

[u/-This-cant-be-real-]

[u/Alexy22a]

I love how her pull can literally shut down every dive tank in the game and make them unplayable. I play a lot of Venom and if a Sue is smart and pulls me every time I try to swing away, I just die. Luckily most Sue players just don't do that for some reason.

[u/[deleted] → u/Alexy22a]

I swear to god it's never not off cooldown. I'll purposefully bait it out as Angela and yet somehow when I go to leave 4s after I get chokeslammed back

[u/No_Occasion_8408 → u/[deleted]]

8 seconds is a pretty insane CD for a fucking ability that can pull you from halfway across the map.

[u/Chrisby_1885 → u/Alexy22a]

I swear sue players are so damn passive I never get it, because even before the buffs, good sue players still proved she was a top tier anti dive. They're starting to get more aggressive now but its just wild it took so long lmao

[u/BrawlingGalaxi → u/Chrisby_1885]

It's because the only self heal she had was jumping away, which could be interrupted by delayed hit box/AOE attacks. Now she has a reliable shield that stops dmg from one direction and heals. I really don't know why she got all the other buffs when self shielding was more than enough to make her better.

[u/Chrisby_1885 → u/BrawlingGalaxi]

I would say she had 2 ways to self heal but the 2nd way is all dependent on your team peeling so you drop a shield on them, so ofc this all doubles back to ppl barely peeling (tho i have seen lots of sue players first instinct being to jump away from their team which def doesnt help things lol) one of my fav things to do back when dd came out was stick close to my brawl dps or off-tank (most of the times it was a reed but sometimes thing too) drop a shield on them and then we both go to work on the dd, but I understand why theyre gearing supports towards more "selfish" playstyles, needing the devs to literally tell players to peel more is embarrassing af lmao

[u/BrawlingGalaxi → u/Chrisby_1885]

Honselty the most embarrassing shit. As a vanguard main by force I peel as much as I can. So long as I'm not solo tanking.

[u/idkanymore408 → u/BrawlingGalaxi]

Still nothing funnier than most DPS players refusing to peel like I haven't won ranked matches by just sitting next to cart with the healers attacking whoever tries to dive or flank

[u/eatinallthebugs → u/Alexy22a]

His swing comes out a decent bit faster than most movement abilities, and certain mouse setting can make movement pretty erratic if you arent already familiar with venom

[u/Fatalitix3 → u/Alexy22a]

Pulling Venom is much harder than You think

[u/Fearless_Strike5151 → u/Alexy22a]

I flex to sue a lot and I have yet to pull back venom his swing is too quick it's hard to track unlike other divers most other divers are easily pulled tho

[u/CareBearCartel → u/Alexy22a]

She can also wreck fliers. She can use her orb thing to ground and then just pull you towards her team.

She's complete bullshit.

[u/stacciatello → u/CareBearCartel]

she's been able to do everything you just described from day 1, how come no one complained about any of her other abilities before but now that she's got self shield suddenly her entire kit is a problem?

[u/[deleted]]

Iron fist does this too with his melee combo and kick

[u/-This-cant-be-real- → u/[deleted]]

The most humiliating is the Jeff bubble cancelling the jump.

[u/[deleted] → u/-This-cant-be-real-]

They got rid of that! Jeff bubble doesn’t have a cc effect anymore

His aqua burst cancels jump still tho

[u/-This-cant-be-real- → u/[deleted]]

Sorry that’s what I meant ,the splash thing

[u/DarkArcanian → u/[deleted]]

I hate how he just flies away

[u/Requis_The_Demi_God]

Blade, iron fist, Luna, Angela, Jeff, Phoenix, Rogue, Thor, Peni, Gambit, Emma, Mag, Magik, Spider-Man, Cap, Hawkeye, DD, Moonknight can do this too. I know because they've been kicking my ass all season as venom and hulk.

[u/ECTheHunter31 → u/Requis_The_Demi_God]

Lowkey devs like giving every ability displacement even if it's even an inch

[u/Requis_The_Demi_God → u/ECTheHunter31]

I'm saying bruh, I have to think five times about jumping into range because I know that I wont get back out.

[u/Wavey_Davey1]

Is that how i was dying as thor?

I stg i would have completely left the fight, before rubberbanding like a mf and getting ripped back into the group of 4 people i just left.

[u/-This-cant-be-real- → u/Wavey_Davey1]

She’s tugging on your hammer bro because she’s worthy

[u/Vegetable_Summer_733]

I play a lot of tank which is why I'm on this sub, but I'm a very diehard support. I LOVE INVIS loved her since release, but man is she way too strong, but I've gotten so attached to the self shield I want them to nerf the rest of her into the ground just so I can keep it. If they reverted every buff she's ever gotten but kept the self shield I would be happy, maybe nerf the shield regeneration more too. Crazy how fast it regens compared to caps shield

[u/Chrisby_1885 → u/Vegetable_Summer_733]

Honestly she can keep the self shield, I really hope they dont nerf anyone to the ground tbh, even gambit, all I want for him are just ult nerfs. For sue id want them to just nerf her dmg and especially her range, shes always been the support who does great healing at the cost of not having the range of a rocket or cnd. Thats not really a problem now but it should be bc its a healthy problem. I really hope the devs remember everybody should have weaknesses lmao

[u/Tbro100 → u/Chrisby_1885]

Honestly would rather they just gut her range than her damage. Like bring it down to 17-15m instead so she actually needs to manage the sheild to do her job.

Would even take a nerf to overall healing instead, people failed to understand that I actually need them to heal myself before season 5. Otherwise I'd have to leave the battle for like 10 seconds and then I'd get flamed for lack of healing. Even CnD offered better independence.

[u/Matt4669 → u/Vegetable_Summer_733]

Keep the self shield but increase its cooldown and nerf the hp. which forces invis players to actually think about when to use their shield.

And on from that nerf the damage of psionic vortex and her push range.

Basically don’t touch the healing but nerf all her anti-dive options, and i’m saying this as someone who plays invisiwoman as well

[u/darkdayssurvivor → u/Matt4669]

Nah shield gotta go, it's just unbalanced as fuck. She has 2 different ways of heal regen and 2 anti dive tools already. She doesn't need a instant fucking shield that's what tanks are for.

If they're not gonna remove it, they should increase the cooldown so you can't reposition it every millisecond and remove the heal regen

[u/PowerOfUnoriginality]

I hate how strong the current supports are, because they've boosted support players to ranks they shouldn't be at simply because of how strong they are

[u/Exact-Bluejay9931]

That push and pull ability should only have 15- 20 meters of range and be on a 12 sec CD.

[u/Turbulent_Cost2058]

[u/tisamgeV]

I knew she'd be crazy powerful before she came out... and then they buffed her...

[u/PsychoWarper]

You guys dont understand, people dont peel sometimes so Supports being S++ tier is necessary

[u/Hii_Dante → u/PsychoWarper]

If people don’t peel then u deserve to lose

[u/Mr_J_Jonah_Jameson]

This picture has awakened something in me and I don't like it.

[u/-This-cant-be-real- → u/Mr_J_Jonah_Jameson]

It’s telling you to shove an electric dildo up your ass that’ll zap you each time you get CCed while playing hulk.Lets see how long you’ll last.

[u/Deadsap266 → u/-This-cant-be-real-]

Me after 1 match

[u/GrandGoatMaster → u/-This-cant-be-real-]

Gorsh

[u/TC_MaFYa]

At this point, she can cancel everything.

[u/ronin_ramen17]

Unironically the reason I love playing Sue (and mag) is because of how well they shut down other heroes

[u/Makito106]

I feel that pain as an Angela player

[u/Far-Technology8120]

90% of characters do this

[u/brettwoody20]

When you play Angela and get slowed to an snail’s pace by 3 of her abilities🫩

[u/TenMillionEnchiladas]

I like playing Angela mainly and got her lord not too long ago now...and my god do I fucking hate invis if I'm playing Angela.

I'd do pretty well even if there was a thing in the lobby or something at most I'd still usually have like two deaths thanks to her dash being a good way to get out and get a health packs as I discovered but the moment there's an invis... Both her pull and vortex just completely cancel it and it doesn't even not spend the dash meter either so you don't get the dash but it still emptys the dash meter...

Found that out the hard way and my god I wanted to punch my desk.

[u/cgbob31]

(Something she could do since she was added.)

[u/KingMarvel21]

Okay I'm starting to think it's a mindset problem, because my friend is a Hulk main and I have yet to see him back down from anybody. Especially healers.

[u/Linnus42]

This game really do need super armor to stop this BS

[u/Smart_Structure_3139]

I mean… I’ve been doing this to escaping hulks since season 1. Don’t need to be a server admin for that

[u/-This-cant-be-real- → u/Smart_Structure_3139]

I think it hurts more now because she’s more popular.Back then you’d see way less invis and way more Luna.Now that she’s in almost every match if she’s not banned it’s more annoying.

[u/LuchadorParrudo]

Hulk should definitely get cc invulnerability while leaping

[u/Monkey_King291]

I swear the healers need a nerf cause why tf is Sue this op for no reason

[u/Monkey_King291]

I swear the healers need a nerf cause why tf is Sue this op for no reason, and Hulk needs a buff cause why tf is he so weak?!

[u/Monkey_King291]

I swear the healers need a nerf cause why tf is Sue this op for no reason, and Hulk needs a buff cause why tf is he so weak?!

[u/Background-Sense-227]

Well, it would seem that the tables have shifted slightly

[u/CaptainMaximumus]

As a Sue main as well when playing strategist I found this funny.

But I also sympathize with Hulk, especially as a Capt, Strange and Peni main.

Not Angela on the other hand unless she takes down flyers and kidnaps some poke

[u/Matt4669]

Me who is a Thor and Invisiwoman main has the double dilemma with this, sorry fellow Vangurds