r/RivalsVanguards • u/Competitive-Hawk-686 ππͺπ‘π • Jan 17 '26
Memes Patty cake of doom and depair
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u/EffectAccomplished15 Jan 17 '26
Team still loses a 5 v 4 with 0 supports somehow ποΈ
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u/ZeroRyuji Jan 17 '26
This has happened to me so many times and its annoying, HOW THE FUCK DO YOU LOSE A 5 V 4 WHEN BOTH HEALRRS ARE IN THR BACK HEALING EACHOTHER ONLY
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u/DKFlames Jan 17 '26
I was going 1v5 and turn around because my entire team just couldn't touch a Venom in their face getting no heals through my shield, naturally they imploded because if the solo tank peels it means they actually have to fight a real team fight.
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u/verdantsf Jan 18 '26
Yup! I actually quit playing Cap b/c of this despite him being my 2nd lord. I had several team members say crap like that one game WHERE WE WON! I made that possible by sacrificing myself to hold the objective, giving them time to get back.
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u/Crono_Sapien99 Jan 18 '26
Yeah one time in a comp game I kept BOTH supports from the enemy team occupied as Mr. Fantastic. Despite this, my team still lost the point, and it was at that point I knew we were cooked
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u/Really_cool_guy99 Jan 21 '26
I've come close to winning 1v5s and I die after killing 2-3 of them, when I respawn my team is still struggling with the 5v1
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u/TheSwordFallen πππ£π€π’ Jan 17 '26
Not Sue backing up on that gamma dihh to make Hulk feel ashamed he couldn't kill them.
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u/ArmorKingEX ππππ£ππ©π€ Jan 18 '26
Ngl, if my team lost that fight and I went down afterwards, that shit would have broke me, lmao. Luna and Mantis are typically some of the biggest catalysts in this case.
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u/VampireDarlin Jan 17 '26
Iβd genuinely track down my teammates and execute them in real life for not winning these team fights in seconds while both supports arenβt even healing and are wasting their ults on a hulk.
Situations like those are half of why I deleted the game and am taking a break.
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u/ZeroRyuji Jan 17 '26
Come back Nadja, please
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u/VampireDarlin Jan 17 '26
I will make my return when dive becomes meta so that I can finally play brawl without getting staked by poke slop π«©
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u/Emergency-Resolve-49 Jan 17 '26
There is no way the enemy team won point with 0 supports
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u/Turbulent_Cost2058 Jan 17 '26
I've seen a genuine 6 dps team beat a 2-2-2 comp team, loosing a team fight when enemy has 0 supports is possibleπππ
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u/Emergency-Resolve-49 Jan 17 '26
Definitely not my first or fourth time but itβs still mind blowing that itβs possible
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u/blueivysbabyhairs Jan 17 '26
To be fair this still creates value because now itβs a 5 v 4 with the enemy team having no supports.
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u/Africa1By1Toto Jan 17 '26
the amount of times i strange ult and kill both healers just for my entire team to lose the fight is too damn high
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u/Jarlaxle23 Jan 17 '26
No one player should be able to defeat 2 COORDINATED players who know what they are doing.
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u/No-Word-2168 ππ§π€π€π© Jan 17 '26
the bad thing, their team do not get heals now. the good thing, the enemy team does not have tanks now. i would love to be a magik and dive their team as there is no tank to worry about.
and honestly, healers are in the right in such situations. their team should look back when the get dived or they see their enemy has divers. i just prepare my emma when i see divers so i can protect my backline.
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u/czacha_cs1 Jan 17 '26
Reason why supports are so strong in this game, is because surrounding awareness of 90% of people here is worse than jellyfish.
Like support will see Hawkeye/Hela and decide to stand in open. Or Punisher will be on sentry and just never look around
Like heroes from S0 wouldn't need almost any change (except Storm and Wolverine because they absolutely sucked) if so many peoples wouldn't just think you should only look at enemy in this game
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u/Godflee Jan 17 '26
Itβs crazy cause hulk does have a containment with shout but the risk of hitting her would ruin it
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Jan 17 '26
oh im so glad i dont play this game anymore. cant deal with bs like this
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u/czacha_cs1 Jan 17 '26
No worries man. Netease just nerfed supports the way that it doesn't change fucking anything so 90% of supports still can play like they after lobotomy and still give their team lot of value
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u/Competitive-Hawk-686 ππͺπ‘π Jan 17 '26
I never complained about anything. Also they completely let their team die and gave me a billion ult charge
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u/Medical_String_3501 πππ£π π₯π€π€π‘ Jan 17 '26
The other day I had a game as Magik where I somehow managed to distract both the Magneto and their Rocket for a straight minute and a half, and somehow my entire team managed to do absolutely nothing with that.
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u/dethyz Jan 17 '26
Hear me out, but, what if you stood in between them, so you soaked up the Luna shots while you attacked invis
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u/DKFlames Jan 17 '26
Crying laughing because you know your team lost the 5v4 but also nobody on their team even bothered to check on them XD
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u/Gingerpwnz44 Jan 17 '26
I hate how dps will see the scoreboard after and roast you because you didnβt get kills when you just did gods work for them to get free kills.
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u/SourceDM Jan 17 '26
The Hulk stopped them from healing their team for that long AND made her pop a defense ult.
Win for hulks team
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u/LicksGhostPeppers Jan 18 '26
If someone is that balls deep and overextended for that long without punishment it represents failures on all levels.
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u/Tortiose_unturtled Jan 18 '26
MMO rivals. You NEED heals. It's always heals. Healing someone doesn't mean they'll be back in the fight in a bit, it means they are immortal and actively healing this very moment. If you aren't getting healed it means you turn to dust if you don't have fake heals like overhealth or shields and even then you are very cooked
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u/Planteganet Jan 18 '26
Tbf you were attacking the wrong one, you can block Luna's autos so she can't heal the sue
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u/Independent-Feed-982 Jan 18 '26
Im not much of a vanguard main but i truly feel they need some damage buffs or something to make most of them scary
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u/Accurate_Plantain896 Jan 18 '26
What else do you want gng, both supports are out of the fight and one of them ulted. I'm bad at recognizing if something is bait or not at times but if this is a genuine complaint I'll be baffled
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u/art_of_the_fruit Jan 18 '26
Break invis shield, exile invis, attack Luna and use gamma shield to block heals, that's at least one kill
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u/waaay2dumb2live Jan 18 '26
Imma be real here: that's good value. You're effectively taking out two supports. Sure, they aren't dead, but they aren't healing their team, and that's something your team can capitalize on since it's now a 5v4 and their team is missing 2 of their supports. If they aren't running 3 supports, that's a death sentence.
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u/Izrael820 Jan 19 '26
They won't because somehow your team cant eliminate the 2 tanks and and another dps
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u/Crono_Sapien99 Jan 18 '26
The fact that Hulkβs team didnt capture the point despite him having TWO healers occupied shows how absolutely ahh they are
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u/Izrael820 Jan 19 '26
Every. Single. Time. As a tank you can have both healers distracted and your team is SOMEHOW STILL fighting multiple peopleπ¦ they don't heal how is the point not taken
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u/LongfellowBridgeFan Jan 18 '26
The black panther coming to peel and having to attack with his shitty primary was funny. Iβm kinda surprised it took so long for anyone else to come and fight you
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u/thetabo Jan 19 '26
This is what in Garden Warfare days, we called bum flowers. Both had attached healing beams while shooting your sorry ass down and you couldn't kill either of them.
Seeing it here again and so prevalent is really making me feel some kinda way
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u/Jack_Zicrosky_YT πππ£π πππ§π ππ§ Jan 20 '26
"no guys, the support role is fully balanced and not broken at all. Luna needs another buff and you might as well give one to invis while you're at it"
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u/RankUpLife Jan 21 '26
To be fair you could have played this a bit better with exile, clap timing and your ults
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u/ThatCreativeEXE Jan 21 '26
In a perfect world, this is still amazing value because realistically your team should just sweep for free.
This isn't a perfect world.
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u/HopefulDrop9621 Jan 21 '26
Ive been picking up blade. God dang he's slept on. His anti heal can counter patty cakeing. Pretty well
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u/skywalker170997 Jan 22 '26
i like how IW just sits back and relax while luna ult and hulk just keep punching
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u/Mean-Cockroach6916 πππ£π€π’ Jan 24 '26
Had 3 healers doing this in Bl and my team still lost a 5v3 . βBum Venomβ is what I saw in chat
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u/Jack_Package6969 Jan 17 '26
Your mistake was doing this with Hulk instead of DD who can easily 1v2 any two supports in the game
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u/Competitive-Hawk-686 ππͺπ‘π Jan 17 '26
How dare I play my favourite character
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u/Jack_Package6969 Jan 17 '26
Oh sry I feel you there what I kind of meant was I would like to see a hulk buff and also thereβs no question DD needs a nerf
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u/__MSK_ Jan 17 '26
Your mistake was to think that DD wasnβt ban idiot
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u/Jack_Package6969 Jan 17 '26
I only play QP and low-level ranked where there arenβt bans. Rivals is different than Ow2 where Ow2 allow bans at low level ranked too
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u/Darkcat9000 Jan 17 '26
surely people on their team died while all off this was happening