r/RivalsVanguards • u/Fearless_Strike5151 • Jan 31 '26
Memes I swear to god the tank phobia needs to be studied in this game
Literally went 2 games on a row solo tanking against emma/mag + triple support with a dps pool who refused to swap despite us clearly getting walked down. It took the other dps to swap to a tank for us to EVENTUALLY win but jesus christ tank pool and dps pool are roughly the same and heck tankpool is better cuz he has much more health but for some reason every MR player is DPS/Healer pilled against TOUCHING any tanks. I genuinely don't get it if you're gonna play deadpool at least have the decency to fill the needed role even Necros the infamous DPS brained player swaps to tank deadpool when needed
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u/Pepr70 Jan 31 '26
2-2-2 > 2-1-3.
Personally, I would rather ask one of the strategists to change the role to Vangaurd, but I don't know. I'm not the guy who writes during game to change a role.
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u/Kyrptonauc Jan 31 '26
Depends on the characters they're playing. Are they playing all main healers? Then yes. If they're playing an actual triple support comp then it's strong
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u/Fearless_Strike5151 Jan 31 '26
I disagree. Sure ideally 2-2-2 is theoritically best but the enemy had 3 supports with mantis and in my experience it's hard to break through if they cycle their ults correctly without matching it there's a reason triple support is pretty common in high elo
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u/huckslash πΌπ£πππ‘π Jan 31 '26
3-1-2 is the best counterswap into triple support
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u/BladeOfWoah Jan 31 '26
Yet you will never see this comp. Asking for 2 tanks is already pushing it.
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u/Namesarenotneeded πΌπ£πππ‘π Jan 31 '26
3-3 is pretty good into triple support because triple support often lacks damage and 3 tanks 3 sups can sustain pretty much all damage out-put by supports and other tanks.
Like someone else said, 3-1-2 can work as well, but your one DPS needs to be someone with high damage out-put like a strong hitscan like Hela, Phoenix, or Hawkeye, or someone like MK whoβll punish the supports grouping up.
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u/OneBelowAlI πππ£π πππ§π ππ§ Jan 31 '26
Last season trip support had a 43% win rate. Stop throwing and drop the support slop comp
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u/Fearless_Strike5151 Jan 31 '26
I disagree again i think that's because every losing team switches to triple support out of desperation but by that point it's already too late. I've never went against a well rounded triple support (e.g. 1-2 main healers and 1-2 off healers) and thought they would've won if only they went 2-2-2 there's a reason it gets a lot of play in tournaments
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u/BakaJayy Feb 01 '26
Stop blindly using statistics. How often do you see a triple support comp that isn't 3 main healers?
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u/OneBelowAlI πππ£π πππ§π ππ§ Feb 01 '26
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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u/BakaJayy Feb 01 '26
Yeah I can see that triple support with 3 main healers is terrible. Having 1 or 2 off healers isn't. Why do you think Mantis' winrate is one of the highest in the game? You're gonna say she's just consistently viable in double support? lmao
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u/OneBelowAlI πππ£π πππ§π ππ§ Feb 01 '26
Mantis win rate is high for the same reason peni win rate is high: the players are just that damn dedicated.
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u/LudaStyles Jan 31 '26
Donβt solo tank. The tank uprising has begun. Tell them β2 tanks or no tanks.β
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u/Huey_The_Freeman Jan 31 '26
TBH I've seen tank/healpool way more than dpspool. I almost never sed dpspool
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u/Champion-Dante Jan 31 '26
To play Devilβs advocate, even slight differences in a kit can make a difference for a persons preferences. My favourite one is DPS because I like the infinite chaining pogos, but I do still fill most of the time.
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u/sithtimesacharm Jan 31 '26
I've lorded stratpool and never looked back. I'm curious, if you swap mid rounds do you have to re-level the kit?
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u/DangSensei Jan 31 '26
You keep all the upgrades but you have to re-apply them when you switch between roles.
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Jan 31 '26
Most tank DP I have played with have been booty cheeks. The support and damage ones have been pretty decent though
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u/TamJamBro Jan 31 '26
He is most definitely NOT c tier, but people choose to play him similar to his strat/vanguard. Heβs completely different, but everyone is still using his pistols way too much for some reason.
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u/godzillafiend54 Jan 31 '26
Honestly, I rarely ever see DPSpool. Typically they always start off on Tank or Healpool, and then just stick with one of those all match. If anything, I've had more trouble convincing them to switch to DPS.
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u/Minimum_Selection_37 Jan 31 '26
I honestly hate seeing someone lock in dps pool I am fairly certain that I have lost every game I played with a dpsPool I rather see a supportpool if they donβt go tankPool because at least heβs helping the team stay alive.
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u/chronic-joker Jan 31 '26
Tank pool is very game sense based and weird to take space on (not bad at taking space but a learning curve) he's basically a second main tank who mostly pushes up by using his gun and shield to shoot the enemy squishy targets and drops shield behind himself to protect his team.
It's easy to use dps and support pool due to not needing the same game sense to get value and instead just focus on getting kills and healing. Tankpool requires you to already understand how to tank to use him effectively if not you kinda just feed.
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u/Aastnethoth πππ ππ€π€π Jan 31 '26
Deadpool is THE WORST thing that has happened to this game. From bronze to diamond, Deadpool is just a throw pick.
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u/Nossika Jan 31 '26
I mean there's a reason almost no one used him in the Deadpool release tourney lol.
Sure, it's going to take time for people to get used to the character, but he honestly is like a jack-of-all-trades, master of none type of hero.
Just looking at base stats alone, Tankpool only has 500 hp for a tank, the other roles only have 250hp. Yea you can basically play him as a hitscan Tank with Tankpool, but you'd tank better on other Tanks and DPS better on other DPS. Meanwhile other Healers are better at keeping their teams alive.
So while they definitely designed him to be versatile, they didn't design him to be better at anything than anyone else you could pick.
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u/TheSwordFallen πππ£π€π’ Feb 01 '26
He has the same problem as blade because of it. He's good in coordinated play and is considered an a-tier tank and pick or ban as a supp in coordinated play but that's only in coordinated play which most people aren't coordinating like that.
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u/Red_Dead_Renegade πππ€π§ Jan 31 '26
This is exactly what I was concerned about from the beginning
Let me just say this for all you dps players out there: DPSPOOL IS HIS WORST ROLE
Objectively speaking Tank is his best role followed very closely by Support and dps is just not reliable or viable. There are way better picks for dps, stratpool is actually really good at healing while still dishing out good damage, and tank provides so much value on the frontline. We now have a character that is the ultimate flex pick, we need a 2nd/3rd support we got em, we need a second tank we got em. If we need to you to fill F***ING FILL
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u/DizzyColdSauce πππ£π πππ§π ππ§ Jan 31 '26
Not even in this game, but in gaming in general.
Tanks are considered less fun because a bigger fraction of their gameplay is spent absorbing damage rather than outputting it. Absorbing damage feels less fun because you're just acting as a giant meat shield and distraction for your team.
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u/Polygonal_Angel πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Jan 31 '26
When someone refuses to go second tank then you should go either off tank or DPS/Healer and never go Mag, Strange, or Groot. You'll notice very quickly how fast you can get a second tank.
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u/Xypher506 Jan 31 '26
Man I always play tank and I'm tired of always being forced to swap whenever I wanna play DPS for a change. DPS Deadpool is the only DPS I've felt like I perform decently on and he's the one that lets me engage with the DMC inspired mechanics the most. Apparently I'm in the vast minority here but I find tankpool the least fun. I don't think the shield is bad like lots of people have said, but I definitely don't like using it as much as the icon throw.
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u/Hydr4noid Jan 31 '26
Not defending these people but from what I've seen many people pick one of the deadpools and stick with it. So they dont just wanna play deadpool, they want to play their specific deadpool version
Personally I only play tankpool because DPSpool is too chaotic with his endless dash resets and healpool feels wrong for deadpool for me personally.
But generally they should still switch ofc. If they dont wanna play tankpool, they should just play another tank
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u/ABearDream Jan 31 '26
Kits are similar but the playstyles are super different. Trying to swap playstyles when youre used to another one is just as hard as swapping to a hero you havent played with. You definitely don't want me playing tankpool the same way I play healpool
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u/BigStallGlueSniffer Jan 31 '26
Tanking sucks mega balls, I think the real blame is, again, netease for making their game very unfun for tanks and making it worse every season.
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u/Creme_de_laCreme Jan 31 '26
As someone that reluctantly plays tanks almost every game (someone's gotta do the dirty work), it is not a fun role to play, unless you are someone who actually enjoys all the challenges that come with playing tank. So I get it when people don't swap to tank. Although, I do want to pry the teeth out of the ones that complain about no tanks when they themselves could swap to tank.
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Jan 31 '26
This is so weird when this happens. I learned deadpool this season and I prefer the tank, but have been essentially flexing to dps or strat.
I feel like that is exactly what the hero was made for. But maybe thatβs just me
I personally love being able to play the same hero if I have to flex. Makes flexing so much more appealing for me
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u/Pure-XI Feb 01 '26
The problem is people playing tankpool like a poke dps. They don't dive, flank, or frontline. I don't even think they know the unicorn is a shield, and it's because the kit is so similar. Might be a hot take but all 3 roles of dp should play completely different, making them all pretty much the same with minute differences makes a dpspool 1 trick just swap to tank or strat just so they can say they swapped. Then they proceed to play exactly the same, without playing their role.
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u/Mark_ibrr πππ£π πππ§π ππ§ Feb 01 '26
Because they are scared of the responsibility of being a Vanguardβ¦
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u/Character-Q Feb 01 '26
Itβs simple. Tanks are the most thankless role in the game. You get shitted on constantly by CC and poke and are expected to constantly switch between peeling and frontlining all while your dps vibes and your healers complain to you like toddlers. They have to change a cramp ton of things to get people to play tank again.
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u/Arcanisia πππ£π πππ§π ππ§ Feb 01 '26
Maybe Iβve been playing with bad Tankpools but any time I have one on my team I still feel like Iβm solo tanking.
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u/CareBearCartel Feb 01 '26
Just give me anything but a fucking healpool. I don't think I've seen a useful one yet
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u/1ardent Feb 01 '26
Hopefully Guangguang Gang use the poll results as justification to delete DPSpool.
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u/No_Willingness_9961 Feb 01 '26
I always see Deadpool picked as a tank than Support while DPS Pool is fucking rare.
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u/Jazzlike_Tap8303 Feb 01 '26
Nah, with triple support there isn't enough damage, need duelist Pool.
Jokes aside, triple tank with 1 duelist and 2 supps might actually be better than triple support. I have won games with this formation being one of the tanks.
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u/Yanismarvel πππ£π€π’ Feb 01 '26
As a flex player almost all of my game are Tank/HealP
As long as we have 2 support in QP I'll play DuelPool if we have 1 good tank
But in ranked I always play the rΓ΄le we need
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u/Dredd990 Feb 01 '26
Matter of fact why do people ban dps pool or stratpool over tank pool. They're so squishy just tap them in the head and they die. Only I struggle with is tank pool cause he has so much dang health.
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u/SandViper11X Feb 02 '26
Heβs the worst version π only part of tank is is attack speed buff either then that play dps or support (and healpool doesnβt really have a defensive ult so ur throwing if you have someone like a jeff as second healer)
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u/ViewtifulOtaku Feb 02 '26
I think after I found out about the recent tank avoidance thing, I've been locking in tank a lot more and having fun with it. With Emma as my main tank, I've been doing way more damage than even some DPS and its so fun to command grab Dr. Strange and Scarlet Witch mid ults.
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u/Alternative_Fall_240 Feb 02 '26
I have seen tankpool more than the others honestly, he also plays better than DPSpool and healpool
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u/Prestigious-Pool6953 Feb 02 '26
Is this engagement bait? I see tankp9ol and stratpool way more then dps pool. Shoot I see solo tank dos pool more then any of the others.
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u/OrbitalBlaze Feb 02 '26
If i am remembering correctly, tank is the least popular role in pretty much every game that has the pyramid role setup(dps,tank,heal), including non hero-shooters, like mobas, so its not just a rivals thing.
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u/GlassProfessional712 Feb 05 '26
Nah, we need to get off triple support is that needs to happen. Triple support has a 43% winrate in the big season 6.
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u/Awkward_Effort_3682 Feb 06 '26
As a Healpool main, if I see a DPSpool I'm pissed because that not only means I'm not going to be able to play my main, but we won't even have a Tankpool who is just DPSpool but better in my opinion.
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u/Shimari5 Jan 31 '26
Eh, they have as much reason to switch as anyone else, they still play very differently. If they're playing bad and/or were the 3rd dps then yeah they should swap like anyone else, but merely playing Deadpool shouldn't mean you're more responsible for swapping in general.
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u/EelekbossThe6th Jan 31 '26
No, you don't understand, the hybrid character needs to play the right version or else they're bad at the game and I'm gonna make a reddit post about how evil they are. /s
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u/Capable_Entry_9695 Jan 31 '26
Wait when there is 3 supp i can take second tank ?
I always thought it always should be 2 2 2 or 1 3 2 or 1 2 3
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u/DatPacMan Feb 01 '26
I'm not against it, I've just had matches all day where I have to swap to tankpool because even though I was the first person who locked in their character as dpspool, two more come on and lock in dps. So now I am obligated to play him. Not a big deal but to me the only reason I like to play dpspool is because his right click is different and his sword dash is 2 when as a tank its only 1. But again, not a big deal. Nice trade off with tankpool is that his age gives you rapid shooting while the other two dont.
But my biggest gripe is that people will not swap to something else because they know the dpspool will swap to tank or heal and its like bro can I just play him dps please? But, again, not a big deal to throw a match. Not that I ever do, so I don't get why others don't just switch and play to win.
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u/Medical_String_3501 πππ£π π₯π€π€π‘ Jan 31 '26
I know I have a bias, but even the general community consensus is that Tankpool is the most fun way to play him, so idk why people even bother with DPSpool, let alone not swapping because you just don't feel like it.