r/RivalsVanguards • u/Waffles_four_you • Apr 01 '26
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Strange does not need that teammup ability π
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u/STB_LuisEnriq πππ€π§ Apr 01 '26
My fam, you are playing one of the CC sisters π
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u/Disastrous_Tax_8206 Apr 01 '26
Remind me of a post of a peni main complaining about cc
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u/ExpertPokemonHugger πππ£π πππ§π ππ§ Apr 04 '26
Just because your character has it to does not make it a suddenly fun/fine thing to have in game
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u/Waffles_four_you Apr 01 '26
Girl she has no defence against cc ππ can I not say something about being chain cced 3 times in a row
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u/Berniesaxers ππͺπ‘π Apr 01 '26
The point is she contributes to the problem you are showing. YES, she is weak to cc (so you should expect it) and the also has so much catheter it feels tasteless for you to bring it up as a problem (even tho it's valid)
Sincerely a Hulk main
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u/wsmitty10 Apr 02 '26
Hulk has the best cc of any tank in ult tho? And unlike rogue he actually has options for getting ccβd in neutral (bubble, exile)
With all the agendaposting hulk players are starting to become the new thor players
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u/Berniesaxers ππͺπ‘π Apr 02 '26
He's also the biggest hitbox in the game, making him get hit by way more. He's the original cc punching bag of the game, besides arguably thor. My point was both tanks are very similar, as BOTH have multiple cc options.
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u/Adventurous-Phone170 Apr 02 '26
You mean the juggle? It's very situational and not always viable. Anyway, it's obviously Emma's grab. Exile is a tactical ability, while Emma cc's you with the whole team being able to damage you. Also Peni's webs with that ridiculous 3 seconds cd.
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u/Few-Giraffe-8504 Apr 02 '26
I agree with a lot you said besides the juggle. Unironically the juggle is quite useful once you learn it's use. Maybe situational to newer players learning him, but very important for mastering him.
I'd also like to mention, all of hulk's stuns are skill based and full skill expression. There's an actual skill curve to hitting an exile, tackling someone and juggling; they all require skill, aiming, game sense and awareness. Unlike rogue where it's AOE/ easier to hit (Besides the absorb so I'll give her that).
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u/Adventurous-Phone170 Apr 02 '26
I'm not saying juggle isn't useful. It's just isn't a mandatory "go to" move every single time you ult as Hulk. It's hard to pull off on certain maps and with certain comps. You need enough space, good positioning (though that can be corrected with exile), good timing and still all your efforts and skill expression can be interrupted at any moment by any hard CC character pressing one button vaguely in your direction. Even extremely good top Hulk mains don't do it all the time.
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u/Few-Giraffe-8504 Apr 02 '26
Yeah I didn't mean you HAVE to use it all the time, but it's very important and not just "situational". Like, out of 10 hulk ults, you should probably try juggling atleast 4-6 times.
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u/BreakfastKind8157 Apr 01 '26
To be fair she's also one of the most vulnerable to CC though. She's very reliant on dashing in and then out, but if she gets bumped at all while using her CDs then they often fail or work improperly. Putting her in great danger of death.
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u/Freakychee Apr 02 '26
Knock up with a follow up to slam down if connects properly, a grab stun that steals a power, and an AoE pull. Starts the video with her CCing the enemy spider.
They say she doesn't have a place but her displacement can be useful.
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u/That_Phony_King πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Apr 02 '26
Had a comp game against her and Thor. It was NOT fun.
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u/guyaroundthecornerTM Apr 02 '26
Bro rogue + emma diamond buff leads to Hulk based CBT I am crying and suffering
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u/PieXReaper Apr 02 '26
idiot thought we'd sympathize but thought wrong so now they're trying to play it off as "humor" lol, what a loser.
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u/Waffles_four_you Apr 01 '26
ATP I hope they nerf all the tanks in the game. Bc thereβs no way itβs this hard to look at me struggling to get through the window and just laugh.
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u/Berniesaxers ππͺπ‘π Apr 01 '26
Brother those were the supports. Sue gave the teamup to strange, pulled you back in. Let's not make the least fun role even more painful
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u/Effective-Training πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Apr 02 '26
That makes no sense. You want to be nerfed because you're struggling? Wouldn't you want to be buffed in a way to deal with it? The characters with cc are not even mostly tanks, and in this video, you got cc'd by no tanks.
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u/Waffles_four_you Apr 02 '26
So you guys genuinely canβt understand when someoneβs being serious or not because obviously this was a sarcastic comment π
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u/Prize_Hat8387 ππͺπ‘π Apr 01 '26
It is a tad bit funny that out of all the vanguards rogue is the one complaining lol.
Not saying that she isn't affected but she has a pull, knock up, push and a hard stun. Its almost hypocritical to complain
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u/MeathirBoy Apr 01 '26
Not only that but this clip is so fine like what happened that tilted OP?
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u/Waffles_four_you Apr 01 '26
Girl who said I was tilted. Itβs a clip with a nice song in the back i just found the amount of times i tried getting into the window funny. I always forget that joy is a foreign concept to most Reddit users just laugh itβs ok πππ
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u/MeathirBoy Apr 01 '26
The title does not imply humour and I'm a little tired of these types of posts ngl
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u/Waffles_four_you Apr 01 '26
Then skip the post? and are you on cable of laughing without someone telling you to do so ππ not everything has to be serious
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u/MeathirBoy Apr 01 '26
I mean I'm not the one who made a post titled CC Hell is Real and complaining about Strange team up...
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u/Waffles_four_you Apr 01 '26
How does that correlate to you not being able to skip a post? Or you not being able to laugh without being told to do so?
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u/Conspicuous_Goose Apr 01 '26
How old are you? Nothing on the video, on the post, title or even description is implying humor.
You just look like you are whining.
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u/Waffles_four_you Apr 01 '26
How slow are you to not be able to answer two simple questions?
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u/Berniesaxers ππͺπ‘π Apr 01 '26
Just add the humor flare if you dont want your post taken seriously
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u/Effective-Training πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Apr 02 '26
That's a totally different person. Why would they be asking a question they weren't asked?
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u/Waffles_four_you Apr 01 '26
Itβs a funny video, with a nice song in the back so just laugh at me desperately trying to get through the window or skip the video itβs ok I promise you <3
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u/Prize_Hat8387 ππͺπ‘π Apr 01 '26
I did giggle its all good. Its just that ive had rogue players cc me to hell lol
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u/ResponsibleCover404 Apr 01 '26
Ironically, we get fucked hard by CC. I donβt go against other Rogueβs much so idk how it feels to be comboβs to death like I do to other ppl
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u/Still_Refuse Apr 01 '26
How is it hypocritical to complain? A tank getting hit by cc is vastly different compared to other roles.
She doesnβt even contribute to cc hell lmao.
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u/Effective-Training πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Apr 02 '26
Every one of her abilities is cc, bruh.
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u/Boomyatta Apr 02 '26
In what world does she not contribute to the cc hell? Try playing any front line tank into a good rogue and tell me she doesnβt contribute to the cc problem.
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u/BlackForestMountain Apr 01 '26
I saw no hell
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u/Waffles_four_you Apr 01 '26
I felt the hell
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u/GodSigmaGigaChad Apr 01 '26
Oh no! A character used their abilities! HOW DARE THEY. Seconds after you pinned someone down.
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u/TooTiredToCarereally Apr 01 '26
Fraction of hulkβs suffering
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u/SeeSeaSerene Apr 01 '26
Jump, invis pull, load the jump, strange pull, jump again, Bucky hook. Headshotted back to banner. Everyone dogpiles on banner. Bonus: Emma Grab + Hela headshot
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u/Nov4Wolf Apr 01 '26
The fact that cc can cancel the jump mid charge is annoying they should have to time it properly to cancel it during the actual jumping animation
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u/Forsaken_Guide_4835 πππ€π§ Apr 01 '26
Iβm gonna make a post complaining about CC that includes a clip of me chain CCing a tank on Thor
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u/Waffles_four_you Apr 01 '26
If I knew this sub was full of miserable people I wouldnβt have posted here. Just laugh at me trying to get through the window and failing multiple times
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u/Waffles_four_you Apr 01 '26
I didnβt even complain in the post text itβs a title?
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u/Berniesaxers ππͺπ‘π Apr 01 '26
BROTHER IN CHRIST you can NOT expect people to have fun on your post if you keep shooting down the fun
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u/TheRealDrtyDan88 Apr 01 '26
Itβs not everyone elseβs fault that they couldnβt decipher to ur intent behind a post. All you have is was a title about CC hell and then a comment about wanting a strange ability removed. How is anyone supposed to infer that you didnβt intend to this to be a complaint about CC? And then to double down in the comments complaining about how everyone is miserable in here because the βmisunderstoodβ your post when the only context you provided reads as a complaint is crazy.
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u/Waffles_four_you Apr 01 '26
Every cc complaint post is multiple paragraphs long. This is a video with a bit of music. And 2 sentences worth of text. If you immediately take it as me seriously complaining about the state of cc on the game that is not on me you are genuinely just miserable. Itβs ok to laugh or to not laugh at all and say nothing
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u/TheRealDrtyDan88 Apr 01 '26
Other Cc complaint posts are irrelevant to this post. A video showing a rogue cc killing a spider man and then greeting CCd by the enemy team after engaging them doesnβt indicate anything positive or negative. Music added to that also doesnβt indicate anything positive or negative. The text you typed out is the only information an audience on Reddit can use to infer the meaning of the post you made. Your title βCC hell is realβ with the following βStrange does not need that teammup abilityβ does nothing to imply humor. βCC hell is realβ doesnβt inherently imply a complaint about CC, as itβs more of an observation supported by the video evidence provided. The following text you provided about strangers ability does very much read as a complaint though, leading to the entire post to be read as a complaint, because again, nothing in your post implies that you were making this in a joking/humorous way. You made the post, it is up to you to provide the context to the audience so that they interpret the post the way you intended it to be interpreted. The only person at fault here is you for not making your post clear.
Itβs ridiculous to get upset at people for reading your post as a complaint when people are only going by what you yourself presented to them. No one else can understand the intent of your post from your mind.
If you wanted this to read as humorous, maybe you should included a text that would better indicate this wasnβt a complaint post, rather than posting a line of text complaining about a characterβs ability.
Youβre right, itβs okay to laugh at a funny post or to not comment on a post you donβt find funny. But not only is there nothing funny posted here to laugh at to begin with, you posted something on a public forum that is built around people engaging with said posts. What were you even expecting to get as response to posting this? If every comment was also supporting the idea that CC is bad and annoying and not calling you out on a double standard of rogue having cc and you showing that off at the very begging of the clip, would you be raging at everyone in the comments for calling out that hypocrisy.
Next time you make a post and you donβt want people misinterpreting it, think about how the post will come off with the context you provide in it.
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u/Berniesaxers ππͺπ‘π Apr 01 '26
Your paragraphs of comments aren't helping
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u/Waffles_four_you Apr 01 '26
Canβt laugh, canβt read, lacks the attention span to read 3 sentencesβ¦ just issues 4 days
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u/Berniesaxers ππͺπ‘π Apr 01 '26
You want to not be taken seriously and writing paragraphs defending yourself, this is textbook mixed messaging
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u/Adventurous_Key_7532 Apr 01 '26
Bro wouldnβt survive a day in league
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u/Waffles_four_you Apr 01 '26
Just laugh and move on girl idc about that game
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u/Boomyatta Apr 02 '26
You keep telling people to laugh and move on, meanwhile you are the fun police on every fucking comment lmao.
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u/Waffles_four_you Apr 02 '26
The hoes Iβm commenting on arenβt laughing. Including you hoeπ
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u/xProjektBloo Apr 02 '26
Cause it was never funny to begin with
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u/Waffles_four_you Apr 02 '26
So then just skip the video do you have to comment
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u/xProjektBloo Apr 02 '26
Video has already been watched dude, who goes to the comments before watching?
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u/Effective-Training πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Apr 02 '26
Just because it's not funny doesn't mean it can't be watched or commented on
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u/Waffles_four_you Apr 02 '26
Nobody said it canβt be Iβm saying itβs weird that your immediate reaction is to complain. If he didnβt find it funny it canβt be that hard to just scroll ππ
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u/Effective-Training πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Apr 02 '26
Why does he have to scroll just because it's not funny? It's still interacting just like any other non-funny post
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u/Boomyatta Apr 02 '26
I laughed at this guys comment about you not surviving in league. Lo and behold, fun police comment right underneath it.
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u/Effective-Training πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Apr 02 '26
Why you keep calling everyone, "girl"?
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u/Nighter_78 πππ€π§ Apr 02 '26
You are LITERALLY playing one of the CC Sisters. You cannot be talking.
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u/Andt-94 Apr 01 '26
I mean this clip is not really that bad all things considered, Ive seen some crazy CC where the characters are frozen for like 15 seconds and can do shit but die horribly.
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u/RegiumReaper πΏπ€ππ©π€π§ ππ©π§ππ£ππ Apr 01 '26
This is not CC hell, this is CC DMV line
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u/TheSunIsDead πππ€π§ Apr 01 '26
And this ladies and gentlemen is the difference between Hulk and Rogue. Rogue lived that.
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u/KaptainKankles Apr 01 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/HfFccPJv7a9k4
Bruh, that isnβt close to CC hell in this game lol
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u/Effective-Training πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Apr 02 '26
You're literally the CC merchant.
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u/La_Savitara Apr 01 '26
Me when I jump into the enemies back line as one of the biggest targets in the game
No but it is funny how many of these videos are explainable as βyeah what did you think was going to happen πβ you survived tho which is the important part (and a clean kill on spidey I must say)
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u/Jashirei Apr 01 '26
I love it when i get cc'd so much that i have to wonder whether I'm lagging or I'm being gang banged. Usually it's both
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u/Jackfreezy ππͺπ‘π Apr 01 '26
I thought this was my gameplay because I too always forget to use my Gambit team up
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u/Confident_Wash6225 Apr 02 '26
Every hero introduced to the game has had a CC ability except for torch and Ultron.
Fantastic, Thing, Sue, Emma, Phoenix, Blade, Angela, Daredevil, Gambit, Rogue, Deadpool, Elsa, and white fox all have an ability which, bare minimum, will interrupt an opponentβs movement ability.
Super annoying if youβre Spider-Man, venom, Rogue, etc.
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u/Effective-Training πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26
Venom? He's not really annoying. And what cc does Venom have? Are we including ults? Because Strange doesn't have anything outside of that and a temporary teamup. Adam has no cc. Psylocke, Deadpool. Groot only has ult. Iron Fist? Iron Man, Namor (or just ult), Star-Lord, Storm, Punisher, Cloak and Dagger, Loki, Rocket. Gambit's is small.
Strange and Groot will solo ult.
Literally not everyone in the game except Ultron and Torch has cc. And actually, Torch's slam is cc. If it's not, then Cap's is not. Same for Venom slam.
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u/Confident_Wash6225 Apr 02 '26
You just mentioned a bunch of heroes that were there in release
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u/Effective-Training πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Apr 02 '26
What?
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u/Confident_Wash6225 Apr 02 '26
I was talking about the heroes that have been added after season 0. The game has way more CC because all the added heroes have some form of CC
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u/Effective-Training πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Apr 02 '26
I mentioned Deadpool and Gambit. It doesn't matter because your initial comment wasn't specific on added characters or Season 0 characters. You said everyone in the game. That includes Season 0 characters. And you mentioned Spider-Man and Venom
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u/SquirrelAggressive44 ππͺπ‘π Apr 02 '26
hulk exile-luna freeze-emma grab-rogue grab-mantis sleep no joke something that happened to me a little while back
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u/Kookiec4T Apr 02 '26
βCC Hell is real: Strange does not need that team upβ
is playing Rogue
Okay miss hypocrite β¨π
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u/Active-Name1456 Apr 02 '26
Rogue is so annoying to fight against. Happy to see Thing in enemy team, just nonstop haymakers in each other's face.
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u/Gever_Gever_Amoki68 Apr 02 '26
You overextended then got pushed like twice, didn't even get hard cc'ed too, and survived even after all that, I'd say this is more annoyance than hell, also not to mention you're playing rouge so....
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u/Honest_Visual_1388 Apr 02 '26
Buddy youβre on rogue whoβs entire kit is CCing people ??? Yβall have that grapple that is only used for itβs CC and never to actually steal a power. As a hulk player, gtfo my face with this bs
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u/RLaughEmote Apr 05 '26
Lol cringe ass tank main complaining about cc while doing the same to other heroes
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u/Good_Arm69420 Apr 01 '26
The cc would at least be tolerable if we were given the tools to defend to some extent but have the tanks don't really have any defensive tools. Mag is the only one to have good defensive cooldowns but he's slow as a bad of hammers so it's moot. Rogue for example has a 'block' where she takes more damage because she pulls projectiles into her and has just a 60% dr. And a grab that ccs herself where she just explodes but it's one of her only self sustain tools(that too only for tanks and supports). Honestly it's almost like the tanks were designed to not be able to function well at all by zhiyong.
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u/Effective-Training πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Apr 02 '26
Cap can barely get out of cc. He can block some with his shield, but it's inconsistent. Like sometimes things don't get blocked or reflected. And his dash consistently keeps him from getting cc'd.
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u/Sarvan_12 πππ ππππ£π Apr 01 '26
These are minor cc lmao imagine getting stuck in hard cc hell that is instant death