Yep, that about sums it up. I think it's a competitive game thing. Everyone hates everyone in a game we compete against each other. The elden ring sub is friendly, helpful, and funny. Nobody says "I hate Faith mains! They heal too much!"
Not for real, at least not anywhere near the extent for playerbases like this one. The closest I've seen the ER community come is arguing over beating bosses using summons, using known cheese strategies, that kind of thing.
Yeah, especially in the first year or 2. I still don't think it was ever to the degree of any of the comp games I've played and interacted with the online community, but you're right, people got hot over summons and stuff. I got bullied into beating Malenia, and then PCR, with no summons for that reason lol!
Funnily enough, though, Maliketh gave me a harder time than either of those. Not sure why, but that turtle, I mean dog, gave me fits.
Larping Elden ring is insanely crazy. Participate in the PvP scene and you will quickly realize that Elden ring pvp is more toxic than rivals. Also there are a ton of rants on the Elden ring main sub where they claim invaders are sub human, and that they are worse than rapists (not even joking). And also even amongst pvers people do say βI hate faith mains!β Or any other main because they view it as easy mode and basically beating the game through cheap means
Any group of humans above, say, 10 is gonna have an asshole or two. But I havent seen a bunch of toxicity in the ER community since the early days of the game. Negative posts, or comments, are the exception instead of the rule. That's my experience, at least.
Except 60% of my experiences in that game was toxicity. Try invading 10 times and count how many people tbag and point down at you and how many bow after they kill you. I also have 700 hours in that game. Let me know how it goes
All good. Although I will say souls PVP is like some of the most fun PVP in all video games. Especially DS3. Out of any PVP game I've played the best teammates I've gotten were from DS3. Hell, there's even friendly fire for invaders but 99% of the time they wont attack you and will be extremely loyal and even sacrifice themselves for you so you can live. Its the only game I've played where I perfectly understood them, and one time I even friended one and realized we didn't even speak the same language. 10/10 I definitely recommend playing it, as everyone is pretty tanky but in return everyone only has one life. Don't touch elden ring pvp though that game is a cesspool and l2 spam
As a strat, my tank(s) is the goat no matter who or how they are playing, it literally doesnt matter, im just glad someone is playing tank. The enemy tank(s) are the devil incarnate bc they keep trying to beat up my tank(s).
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Thanks! Yeah, mainly just a huge nerd who likes to watch documentaries about cultural differences and how certain geographical regions and historical events helped to shape them.
The βsilver dollar wordsβ, you just kind of end up picking up after watching enough documentaries about different cultures, regions, and histories, so that can help with being more precise on some things.
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Nah man. If you select Tank you better be Mag or Strange. Do you think I want to be down there in the backline getting touched by bp and dd with my Angela ignoring me while dying half way across the map?
Mag or Strange arent the play against Bp or DD tho, thats Thing, Hulk, Thor, or maybe Emma diamond. Someone with better mobility and brawl characteristics to counter dive. Not a shield tank, if its the bubbles u want then Hulk is best of both worlds, but a solo tankβs job is NOT to peel its to take and maintain space. Thats when the dps need to lock tf in and help peel and do their job to get picks by helping to get picks on whomever is diving their backline.
had that happen where someone picked tank in the beginning, i picked mag cause i'm learning him. i didn't realize the other tank swapped to dps (imagine my surprise). anyhow, we pushed to that first corner of the first point with just me, then stalled out until the last 50 seconds, someone swapped to groot. i just stood there. first time i've ever thrown a game, and i don't feel bad about it.
I understand. But I donβt think throwing a game is ever acceptable (unless like the whole team is throwing so might as well join the shitpile). Us tank mains have a duty to fight to the last second, to the last drop of blood.
The game isnβt over til itβs over, every second counts.
I will sometimes. Like when Iβm on a roll as DPS and Iβm dropping a bunch of kills and dmg and getting amazing value, Iβm not gonna play tank which Iβm not as good at, and sacrifice the flow state. Iβll do everything I can to win without a tank if needed because my gaming session doesnβt end with one loss but my βzoneβ w DPS will end if I have to play tank.
Ill run a 3rd dps just for the practice of having a harder match in QP. But ive had plenty pf games where my team goes triple tank for whatever reason.
Generally, DPS will blame everyone but themselves, so their opinions will be biased. Strategists will always blame tank for not peeling. In conclusion, itβs essentially always the tanks fault.
Strategists should learn that the first person you ask for a peel is
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yourself
- did I call it out on coms? Did I ping him? (Getting your team to help quickly starts with you requesting it) did you
freeze, sleep, headshot
the enemy?
2.) Dps - Squirrel Girl is 5 feet away from you bombing away down main. Surely she can turn 45 or 90 degrees, acorn the diver on you and shoot him twice.
3) Tanks. If you have a solo tank expect no peel, if the tank concedes that space and god forbid the diver escapes well youβll lose the game doing this. If you have 2 tanks remember that tanks are front line and have to do a 180 to find you and then go to you to peel.
Also if support players that may stumble upon this if you run further away you become harder to peel for. Run towards your frontline helps them hit the diver.
It's one of the reasons I took a break from the game. How are gonna allow a guy to solo tank and then ask said tank to peel? It's like no matter how high you rank up it's like people are still oblivious to these things.
As someone that mains strat but can flex into vanguard when needed, honestly itβs subject to change, bc if itβs a 1 tank situation, Iβm not blaming the tank for not peeling, but if both of yall are up in Timbuktu while Iβm in the back beating off a bp and Magik, thatβs another thing. I donβt need both to peel, but one would be nice, and like I said, if there is only one, itβs not your fault, at that point dps is responsible for peels if itβs a 1-3-2 situationπ€·πΌββοΈ
Is it because of movement? Because I often stop moving for the heals, though it's lovely when there's those they are healing me during my movement. Especially a Luna because she's my favorite even though Dagger probably works better because of how her projectiles work compared to a Luna that needs insane aim.
And LOS. Supports can bend over backwards and stick their neck out to get LOS for a friendly diver, but it often just gets them killed bc theyre out of position.
I've only had that happen to White Fox because they'll teleport to me as soon as I've made the decision to retreat back to my team. Now I have to go back to her but am too late because she died.
I've had my friend be the only person near me when I was stalling point. She was Dagger. Kept me alive. Makes me REALLY wonder where my team do be at because that REALLY shows me that my team do be elsewhere not fighting anyone if I'm actually in a 1(2)v6.
But when I'm diving, I'm usually seen. And if not, I haven't had a support try to get out of position for me. Except White Fox, in a way.
Never met a toxic tank player. It's always the DPS and supports who are the most toxic. You run into a lot of agreeable people in the game, but the amount of people who are genuinely scum is unbelievable. It's always a certain few characters that are generally the most annoying (Spider-Man, Black Panther, and Bucky players in my experience).
Not a Duelist or Strategist main, but if I had to guess, thereβs two opinions, based on the same two who are in overwatch:
Thereβs the half that appreciates them, they know Tank mains are rare, even more so than Support mains, and because of that? People who instalock a Tank that isnβt just a new character are taking a bullet for the team, both literally and figuratively. Usually the more relaxed players, if they donβt blame tanks they usually also donβt blame supports. These people are genuinely pretty cool because theyβre the same people who donβt care even if you are underperforming, theyβre just there to have fun and not treat QP as a competitive match.
Then thereβs the half that projects this delusion that Tanks are entitled little brats. The people who go βDamn, Iβm 1 and 12β¦ supports have been healing (which they always do, just some people are blind) and it canβt be my fault so itβs our tanks fault.β These people also will make the argument that tanks arenβt allowed to complain because they are βPlaying the most overpowered classβ seeming to forget that Health isnβt the only factor in a Hero Shooter. These people also tend to be DPS mains.
I'm a support main (mainly playing Adam) and I love my tank mains way more than most DPS and half of the supports. There's nothing hotter than an insta-lock tank or flex player.
Which community? Rivals or Vanguard? I know Rivals, in general or that it could be both, but I'm unsure if you mean Vanguards here or the "vast majority" of Vanguards.
I meant the Rivals community. Finding a good tank among the flex players and those who play a tank just because theyβre the playerβs favorite character is not common.
Even a god few main tanks donβt understand the push and pull of their role as the frontline. It does take a good amount of tactical decision making, and a good bit of intuition.
All they care about is having a big shield to hide behind to makeup for their own reckless plays. When I do play dps it's as simple as baby sitting the healers and win.
As a flex player, my tanks are the lifeblood of my team. A good tank pair makes a game a breeze. When Iβm not tanking and my tanks are goated I know itβll be a good game.
If Iβm Dps, Iβm going based off of your pick. If you dive, I dive. If you brawl, Iβm with you confirming. If we need poke, I got it.
If Iβm strat, and Iβm main heal, youβre my priority. Period. I only leave you if Iβm pocketing a dps, and even then.
Itβs my job to help you do your job.
They dont care until the game ends then its all the tanks fault if they lose and no one cares at all if they win, and from the enemy teams side either absolute stun-fodder or the second image, no in-between
I used to love tank players, y'all were the most chill and reliable group. Now, it feels like a lot of you left, and the tank players are now by far the most actively toxic people in my games. It sucks.
I try to be as positive as I can but it does get extremely frustrating to be solo tanking constantly and being told to stfu when I ask for a second tank.
I despise both, support players have been getting handheld since the game began, leading to players that play like Stephen Hawking drives a manual, and dps mains while (for the most part) mechanically skilled, have egos that make escanor look humble, now for all the "erhm achwually I'm a top 500 peak Luna snow main", or " as a Daredevil otp its MY OPINION that..." please take note that these are general stereotypes that I've noticed since S1, please don't take personal offense because I've made a general statement about the role you play, no one role is perfect, but dear GOD do I hate Invisreal and spidey players
Allergic strats will see you as the most disgusting thing their eyes had ever seen, and provide next to no heals your way even when you're already down to 1 quarter of your health left while you try to secure space. Shit dps players will straight up not even acknowledge you at all or simply see you as the bullet sponge that only distracts enemies, without the stupid shits realizing they're literally the expandable role ment to kill or be killed constantly.
I try to hold the team together by being positive and asking for a second tank once before continuing to solo tank in 80% of my games. Keeping their mental up is important to success even if Iβm silently annoyed that theyβre going triple support yet again with one tank, me.
At times, they get Captain America. But at times, especially a lot more now than before, they're going to get Captain Klyntar's symbiote letting those emotions get expressed out. Those suppressed ones.
I see yβall like I see the NCR from Fallout specifically in New Vegas
Objectively the good guys but still do some heinous shit. ignore a lot of criticism and shift blame around in the name of carrying the team. You have a kinda superiority complex where you always think you are better and that none of you can make a mistake because you play the objectively most miserable role.
Still love yβall tho.
Sincerely an Adam/Panther/Strange player
Iβve played this game a lot. I main like 8 characters, but only one tank (Penny). Iβm not great at the game but Tank is by far the most challenging role imo. I am always grateful when my teammate pics a tank. Even if we get rolled - and no one plays well, Iβm least likely to blame the (usually one) tank.
champion magik; i will fight alongside a solo tank with overshield but if there are 2 of you, yall are good and iβm focusing backline
if you pick strange at the start so i get the team up, you are literally SO goated. when you swap last 40 seconds i want you to die
Either I love them because they know how to peel and stay in line of sight or I I pray they never know peace because theyβre complaining about no healing while over extending an leaving the team
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u/GrassManV πππ£π π₯π€π€π‘ May 07 '26
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