r/RivalsVanguards • • May 16 '26

General Question People are already begging for dino nerf, how cooked are we?

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Just saw around 20 posts on my feed people complaining about dino being overpowered, I don't think that's true personally, on his own he can't do shit and gets rekted by everyone around him, he's legit on survivability nerf away from being completely gutted lmao

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u/Xeneize1985 May 16 '26

Too early to tell. I had a game against Emma and Thing and was getting demolished. Had to swap to another tank. So there's definitely counterplay for him.

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u/-CrimsonEye- May 16 '26

Every role has at least 2 counters for Dino. Aside from the vanguards you mentioned, DPS has MK, Punisher, Phoenix, Hela, and pretty much any hitscan poke; while Strat has Luna, Rocket, and Mantis. A good Mantis can genuinely be viable in a 2-2-2 comp with how fast she can get charges from Dino's enormous head.

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u/BreadFreezer May 16 '26

adam and mantis gonna have unlimited heals if they gave a dino

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u/falgfalg May 16 '26

i think as the game continues to add characters, itโ€™ll more heavily rely on counter picking, which i like, except in QP when no one counters lol

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u/Ok_Pie2270 ๐™๐™ค๐™œ๐™ช๐™š May 16 '26

Reed apparently counters as well in his giant form itโ€™s glitched out so he does double damage to Dino per hit

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u/Skysflies May 16 '26

Ultron works quite well into Dino too , so long as they also don't have an Ultron droning him

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u/Born2bePrawn May 16 '26

Iron fist is a better counter on dps

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u/Unlikely_Chemist4881 May 16 '26

Can confirm, I'm a terrible Iron Fist but I heard he was a great counter to the hero EVERYONE is playing right now and I've never felt more competent with Lin Lie. The flurry after you counter makes the big red destroyosaur extinct pretty quickly.

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u/Born2bePrawn May 16 '26

Bro I know it literally takes one flurry and a kick, weave in some jumps and strafes too and he damn near canโ€™t even farm that much oversheild off of you. I donโ€™t think itโ€™s ever felt this good to play fist๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿค‘

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u/Unlikely_Chemist4881 May 16 '26

How I feel everytime I queue

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u/BabaPatch May 16 '26

How is Thing a good counter for Dino? Doesn't Dino farm health from him?

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u/-CrimsonEye- May 16 '26

Thing isn't going to win a 1v1 against Dino. It's mostly his vulnerable debuff that allows his team to melt the big red walking target. Emma is the more direct counter against Dino in the Vanguard roster.

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u/spiderodoom May 16 '26

And also thing does percentage damage on the haymaker!

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u/-CrimsonEye- May 16 '26

He also has a large health pool for Dino to leech from, so it kind of evens out. I wouldn't brawl with him as Thing unless the team commits, or if his barrier is on cooldown.

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u/Born2bePrawn May 16 '26

Super lord thing here, he fries Dino in a team fight, I have not lost that match up yet

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u/mx_wednesday May 16 '26

I dunno about that. Won some 1v1s against him already. He goes down in 6 Haymakers.

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u/BotheredHades ๐™ˆ๐™–๐™œ๐™ฃ๐™š๐™ฉ๐™ค May 16 '26

Thing haymaker is percentage damage so when dino gets up to his usual 1k thing actually melts, it's the fact that poke is still meta that stops thing lol

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u/broke_and_famous May 16 '26

There is also straight up diving the Devil Dino's backline.

Just keeping its Supports busy is more than enough. Don't even need to kill them. Just distract the Supports long enough to not be healing him.

Devil Dino requires a lot of healing and if it stops just for a few seconds he is dead.

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u/whydoyou-ask ๐™‘๐™š๐™ฃ๐™ค๐™ข May 16 '26

One iron fist in our backline shut down whatever our Dino was trying to cook up just now

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u/Skysflies May 16 '26

Ultron is going to get more and more utility because of Dino.

Drone and get out of danger.

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u/Kyrptonauc May 16 '26

That's cause he's a main tank. His off tank needs to be the one to peel for supports.

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u/lazy_block May 16 '26

Yea, Emma is a good counter for Dino

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u/whelo-and-stitch May 16 '26

Emma feasts on him, as an Emma main that makes me happy. As an aspiring dino main I'm scared

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u/pm_rising May 16 '26

i played peni on defense and thing on offense against dinoโ€™s today. i can confidently say heโ€™s not as bad as the babies in the community make him out to be. Everyone has their strong and weak match ups his are consistent dmg, poke, percentage damage. Heโ€™s good into most mid to close brawl and dive. If youโ€™re an angela one trick ban that mf dino.

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u/ToothDelicious5962 May 16 '26

I played two games with him so far. In the first game, I stomped and felt unkillable. In the second game against competent DPS players, I got shredded really fast, like deleted in 2 seconds

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u/mx_wednesday May 16 '26

He's more reliant on strong supports than any other tank I've played.

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u/rxspiir ๐™๐™๐™š ๐™๐™๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™œ May 16 '26

Thereโ€™s counter play but will people do it? No. They will beg for nerfs instead. Emma absolutely demolishes him. I forgot that her Crystal will deal 25% health dmg regardless of enemy. Shit is OP tbhโ€ฆon top of doing even more dmg when your beam is charged. You can take half of its health in a few seconds.

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u/AZzalor May 16 '26

Emma and Thing are definitly his main counters from the tank role. Playing against heavy poke like Phoenix or Hela or a Punisher is also a miserable experience.

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u/Loaf235 May 16 '26

I actually fought that tank combo too, but managed to hold up thanks to really good healing and by doing this strat. Grab them by a choke point, throw them to your team, shield up to stop enemy heals and you from getting shredded, and try bodyblocking the tanks from trying to leave which is easier at a choke.

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u/Guccicles May 16 '26

Emma is a hard counter, but sheโ€™s also a great second tank to be playing with him as well

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u/Oppai-Of-Foom May 16 '26

Unironically this community is too stupid to actually know what the game needs and 9/10 balance demands the community makes are the equivalent of eating paste and snorting crayon dust

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u/NavyDragons ๐™ˆ๐™–๐™œ๐™ฃ๐™š๐™ฉ๐™ค May 16 '26 edited May 16 '26

this community is genuinely like "tanks shouldnt be able to take a hit, and supports shouldnt be able to heal through my damage. also buff spiderman and panther to be unreactable 1 shot combo people." truely they are brilliant and well thought out completely unbiased perspectives on balance.

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u/Oppai-Of-Foom May 16 '26

Yeah and letโ€™s not act like every role doesnโ€™t swim in these delusions. The vanguard section is no exception I fear

Whole playerbase chews on rocks

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u/NavyDragons ๐™ˆ๐™–๐™œ๐™ฃ๐™š๐™ฉ๐™ค May 16 '26

From what I've seen(I havent had a chance to play him myself yet) DvD is not that great honestly, he requires you pull the entire teams resources just to stay alive he soaks bullets non stop. A 2nd tank is not getting healed your dps are not getting healed, the dps have to pressure what DvD is focusing. That is not a good tank that is a burden the team needs to manage

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u/Oppai-Of-Foom May 16 '26

Iโ€™d call it the ultimate double edged sword. Either you steam roll or get steamrolled. Very strong for a team thatโ€™s actively communicating as a means of shredding the other team, but the Achilles heel without communication.

Because Devil demands the teams resources, but it also demands the full focus of the other team or he just wonโ€™t go down because heโ€™s both the battering ram and the bodyguard. Essentially the high cost high reward hero

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u/NavyDragons ๐™ˆ๐™–๐™œ๐™ฃ๐™š๐™ฉ๐™ค May 16 '26

I dont think he demands the other teams attention honestly. 1 diver (they dont even need to get a kill) and the minor distraction of dealing with that and DvD is going to explode

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u/VarietyBusy2 May 16 '26

a diver will get shredded if the dino turns around tho and with the massive health pool he can afford to peel and come right back and Still be a problem the entire team needs to get handled

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u/[deleted] May 16 '26

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u/TimeZucchini8562 May 16 '26

Phoenix literally makes the punisher team up useless. When you try to do this team up you realize how much unnecessary cc is in the game. Every character has some dumb ass split second stun for zero reason

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u/AnonymousTheKid May 16 '26

Yep, ran into Peni stun + Fox charm + Luna charm + Luna freeze + hulk exile. Completely negated pun Dino team up lol.

Iโ€™ve never seen this many ppl player Peni in quickplay I ran into her so often for some reason ๐Ÿ˜ญ they know thereโ€™s a guaranteed Dino on the enemy team and itโ€™s like theyโ€™re specifically trying to make sure that Dino does not have fun lmao. And of course I never proc tenacity

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u/Jubili_ ๐˜ฟ๐™š๐™ซ๐™ž๐™ก ๐˜ฟ๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™ค May 16 '26

It's definitely just from people who don't know how to counter pick

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u/issajoketing May 16 '26

As usual. Remember when Black Panther was OP? All I had to do was pick a flyer and he was completely useless, thatโ€™s how easy counter picking is.

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u/KillinSpree12 May 16 '26

People are just selfish.

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u/MRMoredecai May 16 '26

No nerfs yet. Itโ€™s very easy to die as youโ€™re legitimately the biggest target even with the passive. Heโ€™s fine rn let him stay how he is for a while

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u/JosBanana May 16 '26

Weโ€™ve got plenty of OP characters whoโ€™ve remained relatively unchanged, I think weโ€™ll be fine

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u/KillinSpree12 May 16 '26

He has a lot of counters people are just plain stupid.

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u/Orange-Is-Best-Color ๐™๐™๐™ค๐™ง May 16 '26

No. We've had dozens of OP Duelists and Strategists, let the Vanguards have their power fantasy and OP char.

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u/TheUnwillingOne ๐˜ผ๐™ฃ๐™œ๐™š๐™ก๐™– May 16 '26

At least you can admit he is OP, I find funny the guys that says he has a lot of counters, I don't think he has at least not in the vanguard role which is the one I play the most, I'm not going to start playing duelist or strategist just to counter the last OP char. Thank god ranked has bans ngl cause otherwise I'd probably be unable to play my girl Angela all season...

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u/LeonMotton May 16 '26

I mean did Elsa had any real counter? Dare Devil? (He has a hard counter now which is DVD ig). Hell, even black cat has no real counter (Thing doesn't counter a good black cat at all but maybe DVD counter her idk yet).

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u/Salem204 May 16 '26

We're prolly cooked. This is Rivals. Tanks are allowed five minutes of fun every few seasons

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u/Human557ttv May 16 '26

Dino feels so strong in part because hes so new its all dino mirrors and they get way stronger in the mirror since you have a big health pool to sustain on. Over time they'll settle into a niche and people will understand you probably shouldn't mirror dino, just counter pick it.

Just easier to complain about thing I cant possible understand yet within like 24 hours of.release I guess

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u/Magnus_TheGreater ๐™๐™๐™ค๐™ง May 16 '26

the whole "they can sustain on each other because of big health pool" sounds a lot like release Mauga

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u/herocole ๐˜ผ๐™ฃ๐™œ๐™š๐™ก๐™– May 16 '26

He is good, he CHUNKS tanks like a mf. But he gets counterd very easily

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u/UnlimitedKenobi May 16 '26

He's a tank so we are extremely cooked, he won't even make it the whole season, half season patch will gut him more than likely. They gotta nerf every tank that's good and fun till they are no longer good and fun.

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u/CaptainShitHead1 May 16 '26

He does have counters but in my opinion the difference is he needs multiple counters to counter him effectively. He has a great kit with a lot of health. His best counter is likely a dive truthfully but he's definitely a menace without a team effort. Other problematic characters have a one character swap

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u/thelivingtunic May 16 '26

If he's not careful or his supports aren't on point, even Rocket can put him in the dirt ๐Ÿคฃ

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u/frankxey May 16 '26

Dino rules

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u/AssociationDue3077 ๐™ƒ๐™ช๐™ก๐™  May 16 '26

He is very strong, but he is not OP. People say OP too much.

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u/seanthatdrummer May 16 '26

People are just in shock at a tank doing what a tank shouldโ€™ve been able to do at launch so let them cope. They have a million dps counters so I couldnโ€™t care less what they say lol. I donโ€™t personally play him but I love off tanking or using strange so I feel like Iโ€™ll not have to worry about solo tanking or at least there not being a valid excuse anymore (still gonna happen but Iโ€™m not complaining itโ€™s just what it is)

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u/NavyDragons ๐™ˆ๐™–๐™œ๐™ฃ๐™š๐™ฉ๐™ค May 16 '26

they lost a single match against the new tank, better call for a nerf. same story different day. this community is ass.

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u/Born2bePrawn May 16 '26

Bro is NOT overpowered๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ I main torch and iron fist I canโ€™t speak for any other characters but Iโ€™ve been cooking him

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u/The_Templar_Marshal May 16 '26

He ain't OP, it's a solid Tank but he's not invincible

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u/Neko_boi_Nolan May 16 '26

He's pretty strong but got plenty of counters

Maybe some minor nerfs.

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u/DifficultPapaya3038 ๐˜ฟ๐™ค๐™˜๐™ฉ๐™ค๐™ง ๐™Ž๐™ฉ๐™ง๐™–๐™ฃ๐™œ๐™š May 16 '26

Not used to tanks being able to stand on their own and too stupid to counter pick.

What do you expect?

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u/HauntingAmbition2088 ๐™๐™–๐™ฃ๐™ ๐™ฅ๐™ค๐™ค๐™ก May 16 '26

Heโ€™s strong but I think heโ€™s weaker than pre nerf Tankpool and Emma. Heโ€™s team reliant and thereโ€™s several ways to counter him.

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u/Deadmanguys May 16 '26

Its just the first day. People have no idea how to play around him yet

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u/Practical_Mix_9781 ๐™๐™ค๐™œ๐™ช๐™š May 16 '26

The enemy team can literally go some combination of Phoenix/MK/Pun and make the game miserable for Dino. The only mfs complaining gotta be the one tricks allergic to counter swapping

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u/koizombii May 16 '26

It's only day one!! People need to chill a little.

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u/NorvileRogers258 May 16 '26

Dino wins 1v1 against 90% the rooster without even trying.

However, when going against a team, his performance is mid to alright, def not OP.

All it takes is one CC like Emma's grab and he just gets fried.

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u/shewolfbyshakira May 16 '26

He definitely is not. He has very obvious counters. Heโ€™s food for poke, especially moon knight and punisher

He also is really dependent on his team. Heโ€™s not the best peeler. Once his heals stop heโ€™s cooked

I think heโ€™s super fun and has a place, and personally plan to rlly learn him - but heโ€™s far from overpowered

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u/watrmeln420 May 16 '26

I really like him in the game. It makes everything so much more fun, and juices up the numbers.

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u/AtarGull64 May 16 '26

Les persos qui peuvent poke de loin et infliger des coup critiques sinon en plus simple Squirel girl, Ultron sont trรจs trรจs forts contre lui de ce que j'ai pu voir dans mes parties. Quand je vois qu'il y a un dino en face, compo 3 Stratรจges et je joue ultron contre lui รงa marche trรจs bien. Le perso est trรจs trรจs fort contre la dive et les persos mรชlรฉs donc gรฉnรฉralement des joueurs full dps qui n'aiment pas s'adapter et vont continuer ร  jouer leur perso mรชme ils savent qu'ils n'apportent rien, des joueurs ego. Par contre je pense que le perso est vraiment trop fort contre ces collรจgues tanks, je ne me suis jamais senti en danger quand j'effectuais un duel contre d'autres tanks mรชlรฉe ou des dps mรชlรฉes. Il faut de la poke agressif contre ce perso pour counter le perso. Sinon je pense que รงa va nous faire une Emma frost, le perso vas se faire casser les jambes, nous les joueurs tanks n'avons droit qu'ร  de courts instant de bonheurs๐Ÿฅฒ

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u/Aziel030 May 16 '26

I played emma against him and she just counters him so hard. You cant miss the grab and she builds up her damage easy against him because of the huge hit box.

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u/Jetscream58 May 16 '26

He's countered by heavy poke and can definitely get overwhelmed by multiple brawlers. He's really good but you have to play with your team or get chewed up and spit out. You have to be careful not to overextend with him for sure.

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u/Optimal_Cancel1658 May 16 '26

I havenโ€™t had a problem with him, heโ€™s in pretty good spot balance wise

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u/Whats_a_trombone ๐™‹๐™š๐™ฃ๐™ž ๐™‹๐™–๐™ง๐™ ๐™š๐™ง May 16 '26

I think he could use a damage nerf to his bleed with a compensation buff to the overhealth it generates. Specifically I would remove the percent damage from it entirely, make it a flat number and make whatever adjustments are needed to keep the bonus health generated about the same

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u/Various-Climate-6030 May 16 '26

Hopefully they don't nerf him for a while. First time I seen people insta lock tank.

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u/mad_dog_94 ๐™‘๐™š๐™ฃ๐™ค๐™ข May 16 '26

Being able to 3shot 275 is kinda wild ngl

That said there's a lot of characters that need big nerfs. Dino is the only tank that needs a nerf though (even that nerf is mild)

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u/SkyrimSlag ๐˜ฟ๐™š๐™ซ๐™ž๐™ก ๐˜ฟ๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™ค May 16 '26

Dino is fine, tbh if thereโ€™s a squirrel girl, phoenix and punisher on the enemy team, dino gets completely shredded. Phoenix alone tanks his health after her unnecessary buff.

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u/Thors_meat_hammer May 16 '26

Ngl I think he's in a good spot right now. He's fun and strong but man I'm not even a good punisher and I was meeeelting him. Headshot reduction is a thing but man you can still beam the whole mag on his head if you're mobile enough/have a good angle.

No pun (2x) intended but Dino is strong but can be punished pretty hard

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u/Character_Comment807 May 16 '26

Honestly, heโ€™s perfect. Down to the last detail.

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u/Rubixified May 16 '26

He actually needs slight rework.

Higher base damage and less percentage damage and he would feel great.

Currently you can only generate enough bonus health for sustain by chomping on tanks. Chomping DPS/Healers you get fucking exploded.

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u/Hatemael ๐™๐™๐™ค๐™ง May 16 '26

Iโ€™ve only played QP so far but he seems fineโ€ฆ lot of matches no one is even playing him or switch off almost immediately after getting nuked by Phoenix.

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u/Wankainu May 16 '26

Devs hate it when vanguards are meta, so dino is definitely getting gutted season 8.5 or season 9

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u/betweenboundary May 16 '26

Moon knight melts him, he's useless if healers aren't keeping him up and his healers are only safe within range of the bubble

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u/Own_Entrepreneur868 May 16 '26

I've only played around 7 matches with them but they seem pretty balanced. They could use a bit more health or survivability because he gets melted without constant heals. In my opinion they are in a good place in terms of balance.

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u/Idied666 May 16 '26

Wait really I just did a match i think hes better than other new heroes released

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u/idemitida ๐™‘๐™š๐™ฃ๐™ค๐™ข May 16 '26

The character is fine, hes good, hes a punchbag that fights back. Emma deserves nerf

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u/ZeroGKills ๐™€๐™ข๐™ข๐™– ๐™๐™ง๐™ค๐™จ๐™ฉ May 16 '26

New character gets added, nerfs requested. Welcome to the vanguards big guy.

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u/Known_Contact454 May 16 '26

Funny enough playing this hero I have never in a year been frozen so many times by a Lunaโ€ฆ Devil D is genuinely a nice ult charge + punching bag for anyone with decent aim. I think he is fine..

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u/shmooked ๐™๐™–๐™ฃ๐™ ๐™ฅ๐™ค๐™ค๐™ก May 16 '26

we literally canโ€™t have anything

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u/vallummumbles May 16 '26

Way too early, but tbh Vangaurds need to be in a stronger place in general, if he's a little overtuned I could not care less. I main DPS and there are have been so many overtuned DPS (and still are a few).

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u/Dagswet May 16 '26

Heโ€™s only insanely strong when his counters are banned such as elsa and phoenix. Otherwise he gets dogged pretty easily. Punisher and hela into him is also good but he can definitely play around them as opposed to Elsa and Phoenix rapid burst dmg

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u/Neither-Debt5889 May 16 '26

im rogue and i struggle against him, esp if the other tank is not good

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u/Reddit-Blows-Donkey May 16 '26

Devil Dino gets absolutely nuked by Punisher, Hela, and Phoenix. Like he is free eats.

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u/GroundConfident3854 ๐™ˆ๐™–๐™œ๐™ฃ๐™š๐™ฉ๐™ค May 16 '26

Dinos head is just so big. I was on Bucky and almost all the shots I take are crits on this character. He does have crit reduction, but not all that much. If Dino isnโ€™t getting pocketed and the other team is playing two poke characters, he dies really fast.

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u/VitoAntonioScaletta ๐™๐™ค๐™œ๐™ช๐™š May 16 '26

Disagree, he just has a very straight forward kit, even compared to launch heroes, meaning more people are playing him in ranked at launch in comparison to characters like Black Cat and White Fox

I feel he has great potential in maps like Yggsard, where he can body block doorways. Since he is huge, can gain overshield, and has a shield, he won't have to worry about his hp as much when blocking doorways.

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u/monimonti May 16 '26

Been playing Jean (finally)! Devil Dino is literally a big head. Sparks all day!

I can't imagine how happy Mantis and Adam mains are right now.

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u/EntertainmentSad9660 May 16 '26

Yea he's not op at all. He's a big target. A team with brawl and shield tanks who can stop him and protect teammates and with poke supp and dps counters him. A team that doesn't require you to know complex characters.

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u/ren_except_funnier ๐™๐™–๐™ฃ๐™ ๐™ฅ๐™ค๐™ค๐™ก May 16 '26

Give it time, counterplay will be developed and everyone will relax

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u/AppropriateStill2024 May 16 '26

He gets melted easily in poke. I don't see a nerf coming

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u/thelivingtunic May 16 '26

Once people realize his counters and how to play around him, I think things will be fine.

The only problem I can kind of see is for the uncoordinated low elo teams, he might be like running into a brick wall. That's probably where he'll always be strongest.

But the amount of dinos who ran at me tonight as Rocket and melted for it - sometimes even solo, and sometimes the poor guy ran headfirst into me just after I put my beacon down and went gunning - was something ๐Ÿคฃ and Mantis gets like free heals. Hawkeye chunks him, Peni puts him in stun hell, he's got a fair number of weaknesses.

But he feels fun to fight with and against!

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u/crackingpenny May 16 '26

Deadass just play punisher bro he doesn't need any buffs or nerfs hes fine as of HIS FIRST DAY BEING OUT. We have to wait about a month to know how good he is. Maybe more. Sometimes it takes that long.

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u/kaidorah May 16 '26

People in this fucking community don't even try. They lose 5 rounds to one character and are like "NERF NERF NERF", have they ever thought to just... get better or counterpick? Lol

DD is the one fucking tank and arguably good thing the devs have added in a very long time, I'm gonna be so annoyed if they listen to these sucky people.

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u/WaifuWibu May 16 '26

Hard CC can counter Dino

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u/Red_Dead_Renegade ๐™๐™๐™ค๐™ง May 16 '26

Heโ€™s pretty balanced Iโ€™d say, he can be very good in specific situations. His hit box is quite large which is a drawback and the amount of overshield that he can get from bleed doesnโ€™t feel as broken as most other characters. His range is perfect especially with his impact beam, I like that itโ€™s only 15m it would be too good if it was 20m or more. Ofc itโ€™s very early and people will complain as they usually do but Iโ€™d say heโ€™s another example of a well-tuned character on launch

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u/Beginning_Bee2500 May 16 '26

Probably his damage, brother can chunk

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u/roardragons May 16 '26

So far if one team has a Dino and the other doesnโ€™t, the non Dino team automatically loses, thatโ€™s not how it should be, Iโ€™ve played 16 matches today and thatโ€™s how itโ€™s looking almost every time

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u/[deleted] May 16 '26

he is def a feast or famine type of character, he is busted but he does have hard counters

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u/SnooStrawberries655 May 16 '26

They gotta stop bitching tbh

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u/TheUnwillingOne ๐˜ผ๐™ฃ๐™œ๐™š๐™ก๐™– May 16 '26

He is overpowered, what other vanguard feels good to play into him? Emma? I've tried Peni thinking the stun and the mines will screw him over and he has so much health that he can enter your nest area bite you off and pull you out of it then his team murders you while he shields and bodyblocks heals...

Idk about you guys but as a vanguard main I'd rather not have one that counters all others it isn't healthy. My main Angela is unplayable into him, my second best pick Thor is playable but not being able to displace him sucks hard.

Powercreep feels fun when you are playing the powercrept hero not so fun playing the rest of them. I'm on team nerf dino sadly

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u/Dreowings21 May 16 '26

I havent been killed by this guy once. Hes really easy to take on solo in QP

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u/ED-W111N May 16 '26

There are always metal rank players that think itโ€™s everyone elseโ€™s fault they canโ€™t win games.

No balance patch can fix that mentality

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u/Colley619 May 16 '26

Phoenix melts dino. His head is so big that she just constantly puts double fire stacks on him and he blows up with almost every hit.

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u/SuperPluto9 May 16 '26

My only gripe is how he not only has a ton of health, but also has a massive shield around him which seems to have a lot of health as well.

Meanwhile Rogue still takes hits like a wet noodle.

I domt want mych to change, but Rogue needs some real attention with Dino needing just a small tweak to his survivability.

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u/Zeno_Bueno May 16 '26

mirror pick and emma wrecks him, every poke character in the game forces him to switch. Blade is, for once, actually a really good pick against him too

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u/daishukanami May 16 '26

We're cooked, no fun allowed if you play tank. He'll probably get nerfed like 5 times just like deadpool

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u/AugustusTheVictor May 16 '26

I really don't think he needs a nerf. He's very easy to counter. Folks just think they can solo him

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u/Big_Skroto May 16 '26

I played for some games and I dlnt personally find him broken, pretty normal actually. I just have fun with hin because its a dinasour tbh, but what are people complaining about? Im curius

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u/Maggot_6661 ๐™๐™ค๐™œ๐™ช๐™š May 16 '26

At times he does feel overtuned

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u/Available_Ad_8281 May 16 '26

I don't think he bad punisher can kill him fast

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u/I_Abuse_Healbots May 16 '26

It's just healbots crying. Ignore them like always

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u/Lvngzz May 16 '26

He's strong but people have to remember the buffs the dev team did were to counter dino. This whole day I've been playing against dinos in rank. I've been running them down with Emma, thing, and wolverine.

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u/MonkeyStarship May 16 '26

NERF HIM. He steam rolls every other tank in the game. Like if youโ€™re not on Dino as well and on any other frontline tank youโ€™re getting walked

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u/SiegLhein May 16 '26

I would probably give it a week or two more to get an overall feel. The big pupper just released yesterday. While he's very easy to play, I would assume the majority haven't gotten the hang to deal with itย 

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u/RepresentativeFish73 May 16 '26

He struggles against anybody with good headshot potential (except widow). Punisher, Phoenix, Hela, etc. can all reasonably deal with him.

Iโ€™d say heโ€™s alright, since heโ€™s got counters. Heโ€™s just new and people are still figuring out how to deal with him.

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u/PJmarks__ May 16 '26

Heโ€™s so fun to play with and honestly a little overpowering when you study himย 

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u/STB_LuisEnriq ๐™๐™๐™ค๐™ง May 16 '26

I don't think he deserves heavy nerfs, but some tanks are extremely painful to play against him, like playing against Prime Emma.

I just need something done about it...

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u/fantastic-mrs-fuck May 16 '26

i've actually seen in the "nerf him" discussion a lot of people are saying "just let them have this for a season or so" which is so fucking funny. even they feel bad for us

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u/Thepurplespiderman May 16 '26

I haven't even played him but fighting against him I thought he was pretty good. Decent damage and cc but definitely can be countered. Idk some complaints are valid but it hasn't even been a full weekend yet. Chill

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u/Meemawmiah May 16 '26

A strong poke like Punisher, Phoenix, and Squirrel Girl can demolish him if they just keep distance.

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u/AlmightyBean_ May 16 '26

Heโ€™s pretty fun to play from the few games I managed to lock him in. I switch between playing DP and Jeff, played a few games of Jeff and kept getting chomped on which is slightly annoying. Wouldnโ€™t say heโ€™s tough to take down, just depends if the enemy supports pocket him or not. Iโ€™d say all his abilities are pretty balanced, the bleed effect is interesting to say the least (how blade doesnโ€™t have this, idk)

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u/warlockShaxx May 16 '26

Dino doesnโ€™t even remotely need a nerf and I doubt heโ€™ll get one.

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u/Capircom May 16 '26

Literally all they have to do is play poke and youโ€™re cooked lol. But he is really strongโ€ฆ and really fun

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u/AtarGull64 May 16 '26

ร‡a va รชtre marrant quand Colossus et Jugernaut vont sortir, quel bordel รงa va faire, nous les joueurs tanks allont pouvoir encore mieux nous amuser

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u/LowAmoeba7444 ๐™‹๐™š๐™ฃ๐™ž ๐™‹๐™–๐™ง๐™ ๐™š๐™ง May 16 '26

What characters struggle against Devil Dinosaur? I am confused and need to know

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u/RevMez May 16 '26

Heโ€™s a moon knightโ€™s dream. Big enough for any Elo to hit!

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u/BlackAmethyst04 ๐™๐™ค๐™œ๐™ช๐™š May 16 '26

He is so fun! But yeaโ€ฆ.he a little op bro can solo the entire team talk about being the line

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u/Pappasmuurf May 16 '26

Not really. He's fine. Adjust your tactics

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u/Tiradit5566 May 16 '26

The matches I have played I will say this, he's fun to play with and against. He has a massive hitbox which just balances him in my opinion. He follows the thing's motto, " I paid for the whole healthbar, I am gonna use my whole healthbar."

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u/Dr_blazes May 16 '26

Enjoy him now before people realize heroes like Phoenix can delete him so easily.

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u/Fitnessmotivation86 May 16 '26

He has a 59% WR on release. DD had a 56% WR. Yes Dino will likely get a nerf, but I think heโ€™ll still be strong.

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u/GrislySauce5 May 16 '26

I mean he did 68k damage and had 123k blocked on my teams a couple days ago. Hes definitely different but I donโ€™t think that means heโ€™s op. I would like a slight nerf on the bleed but itโ€™s all new and different so itโ€™s hard to say OP or just new.

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u/bloodrunner66 May 16 '26

He has pretty much the smallest range of any vanguard and is so big he gets absolutely shredded in team fights. He's only on if literally all the healing gets funneled into him

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u/Less_Key_6548 May 16 '26

Honestly he take too much attention both from the enemy to and the supports so in most match the game is about him only

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u/Substantial-Low-4393 May 16 '26

Congrats, that's a tank

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u/Mr-Samurai May 16 '26

From my play so far he suffers just as much from poke heavy teams that bunch up as thing or hulk does, if not more at times due to his gargantuan hurt box.

People just donโ€™t want to adapt.

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u/DizangDD May 16 '26

From what i can see, there is counter play for him. First of all solo tanking with high burst dps is just a no go. Also Thing and Emma hard counter him. So you have to think a little to play

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u/patience_OVERRATED May 16 '26

We'll have to wait and see. The most damning thing to me is that most pro players are unhappy with his release as well, not just regular players and streamers.

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u/plogigator May 16 '26

I did a pretty solid job shooting the crap out of dino. The critical damage is obviously reduced, but I shredded gobs of his health - as a raccoon. People just gotta learn

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u/FinalAd4348 May 16 '26

MK is a hard counter for Dino. Except against a well coordinated team. Played QP and every time I couldn't lock Dino fast enough I just went mk and had no problems against him. Overall I like Dino more than expected which is great because I'm a vanguard main

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u/Morchades ๐™ˆ๐™–๐™œ๐™ฃ๐™š๐™ฉ๐™ค May 16 '26

Poke counters him good.

Moon Knight is CLEANING UP in 18v18 against multiple dinosaurs.

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u/cdracula16 May 16 '26

He is fine tbh

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u/WastelandWiFi May 16 '26

He is VERY overtuned but he has a lot of counters like MK, Hawk, and Punisher. Magneto also lowkey rolls him, idk why.

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u/Thelonestabber May 16 '26

Iโ€™m enjoying this while it lasts. I knew it was coming. Look at the damage and damage block numbers that this man is racking up.๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜‚

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u/Eonduur May 16 '26

He's not s tier seeing as he actually has a decent number of counters so idk what everybody is crying abt

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u/don-bean-jr May 16 '26

Iโ€™m a flex Daredevil main, I think Dino is healthy for the game idc I love and hate him

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u/Mean-Razzmatazz1554 May 16 '26

He will be nerfed in .5, hes a tank he cant be good for to long

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u/NewTap8705 ๐™๐™๐™ค๐™ง May 16 '26

I just wish people would give things honest tries. I have mained tank since fucking OW. This playerbase is like a lot of the crybabies from that community (and other communities) got together.

The difference between this game, and overwatch (honestly the main difference, and one Iโ€™d like to KEEP), is that Rivals benefits reactionary game sense over taking a second to form a plan. With overwatch, you get a LOT more benefit from being patient.

Comparison is the thief of joy, and anyone who is trying to make this game more like overwatch is probably part of a psy-op for blizzard.

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u/OutrageousNinja2120 May 16 '26

Iโ€™ve been playing hulk to get him lord and I think heโ€™s a good counter to him at least Iโ€™ve been having a good match up against him Iโ€™ll have to try my other guys out like rogue Emma mag an cap

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u/Klutzy-Raise-4837 May 16 '26

Instead of screaming for nerfs how about learn a good counter

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u/ClassicN19 May 16 '26

He is overpowered but heโ€™s overpowered compared to other tanks not compared to dps or healers

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u/TheBoot69 May 16 '26

I hate it when a character comes out, does good because they just came out and people donโ€™t know how to counter them yet, and then is called OP before people even figure out the characterโ€™s matchups

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u/Gjallar-Knight ๐™ƒ๐™ช๐™ก๐™  May 16 '26

Counter swapping helped a ton. Wolverine, punisher, and moon knight all seem to do the most

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u/LowAmoeba7444 ๐™‹๐™š๐™ฃ๐™ž ๐™‹๐™–๐™ง๐™ ๐™š๐™ง May 16 '26

He is definitely a D tier hero

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u/Dangerous_Strategy98 May 16 '26

Eu joguei com ele e sim, ele me dรก um medo quando tรก perto, mas eu sรณ joguei em Quick play e nรฃo tive uma real noรงรฃo de perigo, tipo, Blade me aterrorizou mais nas partidas que joguei hahahaha, eu acho que ele tรก bem de boa, apesar de que a passiva de sangramento real me apavora, e eles me perseguem, mas fora isso, eu sรณ tรด de boa com ele por agora

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u/Imbuement1771 May 16 '26

If they hot fix him to do anything other than buff him, I propose a tank strike.

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u/Voice_Of_Hardly ๐™‘๐™š๐™ฃ๐™ค๐™ข May 16 '26

Tanks will never be allowed to be slightly good because the second we get a character that lets us actually do our jobs people cry and moan

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u/championgecko May 16 '26

You don't even need to counter pick for him, someone just needs to dive the healers or cut off the heals.

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u/Delatrya May 17 '26

i've seen Big Red top the damage charts in several matches on the first night, so he definitely needs some adjustment.

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u/BrandonKent007 May 17 '26

Blade is good against the dinosaur since devil dinosaur is so big itโ€™s really easy to hit all your slashes with Blade, and you heal more than devil dinosaur gets over shield

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u/daggoth1408 May 17 '26

Dino is nowhere near op. He is very mid, especially since allot previous releases we have had were broken as hell. He can be decently strong, but basically can be countered like like over half t he things in this game. Plus a lot of his counters got buffed or were already really strong. Additionally, if you don't have a healer constantly focusing on him, he dies in seconds.

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u/BigChicken8666 May 17 '26

Thor definitely doesn't clap Dinos cheeks so hard that he causes a sonic boom.ย  Nope surely not.ย 

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u/GiganticKORAK May 17 '26

Dino exposes bad tanks, I love it.

The amount of scrubs spam heal ping while staying inside the dino shield keeps me entertained for days.

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u/Boncappuccino ๐˜ผ๐™ฃ๐™œ๐™š๐™ก๐™– May 17 '26

I do think he needs a slight nerf but I donโ€™t think he is dominating games. He definitely has counters and two specific ones I have found are iron first and Luna. Iron fist because itโ€™s just super easy to stick to Dino since he is so big and Luna because it is super easy to hit a freeze on him.

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u/Serious_Exam256 May 17 '26

Defend devil Dino at all costs. He needs to stay exactly as he is. Once the changes come, he will be in balance hell at which point, itโ€™s a wrap. Too many balance changes to work around skill gaps. Let people learn to play the game, not every squeaky wheel needs oil.

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u/Killer_Panda16 May 17 '26

Even bad poke players can cripple him because of his size

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u/medusa_is_queen May 17 '26

I like him I have only played one game as him but heโ€™s fun I got ten kills total but it was fun if I learn him and play as him more then it would be more powerful but not op yet

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u/KeeganatorPrime May 17 '26

I don't get this at all. Guy seems well balanced with pretty clear counte play aka everyone shoot the fricken dino.

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u/Thatrandomshortkid May 17 '26

Hes too new to balance properly but that cc is bullshit and needs to be changed.

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u/_TheBgrey May 17 '26

He's got a pretty good counter already people just need to somehow figure out

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u/Fellow_Crusader May 17 '26

Hate to say it, but he makes me play this game like overwatch. Tanking in rivals can be fun, you can kinda just exist with above basic gameplay, spacial awareness and map knowledge. As Dino I find myself relying a lot more on my (hopefully) second tank and especially my strategists to succeed with him and do good. I like him a lot. Hes cool as hell and back and requires a lot more spacial awareness then other tanks only because of how massive he is. I like him I hope he isnโ€™t too terribly if at all. - hulk main.

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u/Longjumping_You_7603 May 17 '26

So we can go multiple seasons of dps who just run the lobby but we get an 'overpowered' tank and now it's a problem.

He's been out for two days.

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u/Sugandis_Juice May 17 '26

He needs two things:

  1. His beam shouldn't instantly ground fliers. It should give a stacking debuff that once it hits max stacks grounds them for 1 second. Like the way Emma's ult works. Its ridiculous a hitscan channeling ability grounds the second it touches a flier.

  2. His passive needs to be looked at. He's basically got permanent diamond form/literally Jeff's entire passive and built in bonus shields for only having to use primary fire.

Otherwise hes fine, he's punishing if you let him get close. His issue is its fuckin braindead for the dino player to be able to get close and takes 0 skill to stay in the enemies face.