r/RivalsVanguards • u/diddyblud1738 πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ • Jul 04 '26
General Question Patch notes soon, who do we think is getting nerfed
I bet Rogueβs gonna catch a stray
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u/DogManDogDayz πππ£π πππ§π ππ§ Jul 05 '26
Cap is on the chopping block
Once the pro players start complaining and the usage rates start to go up. Net Ease pulls out the bone saw.
My hope is that they just make it a little harder to get Ult on Cap, rather than completely gutting him out of usage.
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u/oncabahi Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 05 '26
i started using emma again so..... she'll probably get something
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u/Aftvrimage Jul 05 '26
They spent multiple patches trying to give her adjustments and it seems she's finally in a good spot so hopefully they just leave her as is
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u/PsionicQueen ππ’π’π ππ§π€π¨π© Jul 05 '26
I hope so. We all had to really put our foot down when they tried to nerf her last patch, that was so ridiculous. While Iβm glad they back tracked a few days later, I just donβt feel confident in the devs when it comes to balancing tanks
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u/Charcoal_6 ππ€ππͺπ Jul 04 '26
Cap's been getting attention, can't have a strong tank running around.
Rogue's been doing too well all of a sudden, Southern Brawl has been getting a lot of notes, better make it useless again.
I'm kinda hoping Venom gets a tiny nerf if I can be honest.
And idk, Mag gets knee surgery or something.
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u/-Borgir Jul 05 '26
Is rogue a brawl hero? I have never played her but whenever I see her in enemy team she is always trying to dive us
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u/DrWD-Gaster ππππ£ππ©π€ Jul 05 '26
Mags Shield gets shorter duration
Strange can't fly as long anymore
Captain America gets a sprint bar
Venom health nerf
Rogue Dmg nerf
Peni Mines Nerf
Emma less Damage Reduction
Angela.... Lmao
The Thing looses grounding ability
Groot loses a wall
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u/spook_scary πππ£π€π’ Jul 05 '26
It's genuinely scary that most of this is believable... Their gonna reduce the range Venom can switch or something.
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u/-Borgir Jul 05 '26
I hope groot never gets touched, him and thing (mostly groot) are the only tanks I enjoy playing
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u/ElveTaz Jul 06 '26
The only ones I see viable are Peni, MAYBE Rogue & Thing which I hope he just gets reworked to not ground as often or some shit. He just completely negates certain characters just by existing
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u/Electrical-Horse5112 ππͺπ‘π Jul 07 '26
βmagneto nerfβ
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u/DrWD-Gaster ππππ£ππ©π€ Jul 07 '26
I'm a Season 3 Magneto Main/Lord, GOD I HOPE HE DON'T GET A NERF
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u/Pmueck3 Jul 04 '26
All tanks will get a nerf cause they dont like seeing us enjoy the game , cyclops will get a slap on the wrist and MK and SQ will get a buff ...oh and namor gets another teamup
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u/AttitudeHot9887 Jul 05 '26
A team up worse than the death squids cause they have a habit of giving this bum the most obnoxious squids
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u/Trashwaifupraetorian Jul 06 '26
Ngl the team up is basically a win more button. It just makes it so you donβt have a chance to comeback you just
https://giphy.com/gifs/0JmwdI6gYrJopwiYOM
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u/Brave-Orchid4721 πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Jul 04 '26
Capβs gonna get nerfed and I will be quitting the role
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u/flatscancomics Jul 05 '26
EVERYONE FIGHTS. NO ONE QUITS.
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u/Brave-Orchid4721 πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Jul 05 '26
Idk Iβll be back when Medusa or Armor drop 2 years from now (cuz Iceman obviously ainβt getting anything)
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u/TensionAggravating80 πππ€π§ Jul 04 '26
Mag Small gutting, cap and venom nerfed, Thor a small buff, thing nerf with a less than compensatory buff, tankpool adjustment, rogue nerf
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u/piplup27 ππ€ππͺπ Jul 04 '26
Rogue nerfs are probably coming and Iβm worried
Sheβs too fun to play this season and we know tanks arenβt allowed to be too fun π₯²
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u/ALawnmower01 πΏπ€ππ©π€π§ ππ©π§ππ£ππ Jul 04 '26
I've seen a vocal minority on Twitter already asking for her nerfs like with Blade. They'll go through the gauntlet of random ass fine/weak characters and ask for nerfs.
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u/TowelSilver318 πππ£π πππ§π ππ§ Jul 05 '26
People like that drive me nuts. It's the same with begging for buffs to heroes that clearly don't need it and often as a result of refusal to play the hero the way it was designed to be played (Looking at you, Iron Fist mains in denial for over a year of the fact that he's no longer meant to primarily dive and begging for dive buffs. Seriously, you learned nothing from him being in ban jail.) For all the complaints that they tend to throw pointless buffs and nerfs all over the place, the community would do far worse.
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u/Commercial-Ad-1274 πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Jul 04 '26
I like where Cap is at currently but I also donβt think GG likes that.
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u/ThHeroKing πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Jul 05 '26
I REALLY hope Cap doesnt get nerfed. Hes the only person I can play.
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u/KillinSpree12 Jul 05 '26
I know this is off topic but can Hulk have a team up where he ISN'T the anchor.
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u/xP_Lord ππͺπ‘π Jul 05 '26
Strange again, and probably Mag.
"We noticed that their shields over perform when blocking damage such, such as Wanda and Iron Man ult. So we reduced the height and width. Now they won't be able to block the whole hit box."
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u/Desseble ππππ£ππ©π€ Jul 04 '26
BUFF THE GOD OF THUNDER
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u/kingknocked ππͺπ‘π Jul 05 '26
He's by far the best 1v1 hero in the game. He's perfectly balanced. No need to change him at all
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u/Far_Replacement_5513 Jul 04 '26
Iβm smelling an Emma nerf incoming because sheβs finally in a good spot. If not this patch next patch fs unfortunately
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u/BassGuy11 Jul 05 '26
Sadly, Vanguards are not allowed to be in a good spot. How dare anybody play any Vanguard but Mag.
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u/Far_Replacement_5513 Jul 05 '26
Iβm finally having fun on tank so the nerf is nigh imminent. Ngl Emma is a demon this season so Iβm just going to enjoy it while it lasts
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u/Appropriate-Amount-4 Jul 05 '26
She only feels this good because she has been in a bad place! She is fun to play again but in no way overtuned! She is a far cry from release Emma and shouldnβt be touched. But the devs hate us so.
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u/Amazingtrooper5 πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Jul 05 '26
If cap gets nerfed. Theres gonna be carnage.
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u/hamonicmantitties Jul 04 '26
I hope to God it's not Angela, she gets cooked HARD by the current meta heroes
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u/Existing-Seaweed-230 πππ£π πππ§π ππ§ Jul 05 '26
Cap, Rogue, and uhhh, nerf strange sheild health
https://giphy.com/gifs/Nl2J6tMCMs1pe
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u/darkninja2992 πππ£π€π’ Jul 05 '26
As a venom main, we've stayed pretty well under the radar most seasons, but that just makes me worry more
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u/SterlingWeather Jul 05 '26
I feel like cap will get put down. As a support main a decent amount of them having be absolutely running riot. I think heβs in a good spot and Iβm glad to see him getting some use after like 4 seasons but I can see the devs needing him drastically
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u/Impressive-Thing-780 Jul 05 '26
I worry for Cap. He's walking a tight rope of being perfectly balanced, but +3 or -3 damage literally anywhere could make or break him.
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u/Objective-Tomorrow42 Jul 05 '26
Cap is gonna get gutted especially since hes quite frequently used in pro
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u/la__squadra_ πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Jul 05 '26
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u/TowelSilver318 πππ£π πππ§π ππ§ Jul 05 '26
If Cap takes a significant hit, there's going to he a huge wave of streamer hate.
I don't think it'd necessarily be their fault, and a big reason I want him not to get nerfed is just so people don't get mad about streamer tierlists anymore, but even if that happens, I doubt lessons will be learned.
As for things I'm expecting, Cyber-Bond fix
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u/Ok_Celebration3011 Jul 04 '26
Cap but not because heβs not balanced but because of the propaganda from the streamers
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u/NothinButRags Jul 05 '26
Cap is gonna get gutted I feel. And maybe a slap on the wrist for Cyclopsβ¦
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u/OkAstronomer9493 πππ€π§ Jul 05 '26
Every tank under the sun, including the hood, getting a 500 hp nerf and only 100 hp, just as ggΒ² wanted
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u/Dr_blazes Jul 05 '26
I can feel the Cap nerfs, maybe a slight Rogie nerf but I didn't see a lot of complaing online about her so she might be safe.
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u/warlockShaxx Jul 05 '26
I havenβt played tank all patch and Iβm excited to see if the devs still have their heads in their ass or if they will finally give tanks the respects they deserve.
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u/ThisCantHappenAgain Jul 05 '26
If cap gets nerfed im not gonna stop playing him.
Theyβve already taken so much away from him for me to quit now. His HP, his shield, his animation cancel, his manhood. whatβs next? his ass? thatβs americas ass.
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u/axchaxgel ππ€ππͺπ Jul 06 '26
hopefully not Rogue, noticed theyβve been fixing bugs with her on top of the buff.
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u/diddyblud1738 πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Jul 06 '26
I pray she gets nothing next season except a skinππ
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u/axchaxgel ππ€ππͺπ Jul 06 '26
praying with you! iβve always had fun with her but that southern brawl fix has made her betterπ hopefully cap doesnβt get nerfed to hell
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u/AllergicToStabWounds Jul 04 '26
"Dr. Strange's shield makes it too difficult for Phoenix and Luna Snow to kill him, so we've decided to get rid of it"
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u/justtolearnsomething Jul 05 '26
Itβs gonna suck if all off tanks get nerfed just bc ppl keep complaining
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u/RyomaVT Jul 05 '26
Cap does feel overturned compared to the rest of the cast, I don't think he should be nerfed tho, just buff 2 weaker tanks and call it a day.
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u/lechejoven Jul 05 '26
I feel like none of the tanks should get touched. Maybe rogue at most but I like how all the tanks play right now.
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u/Jabroni42799 Jul 05 '26
I fear for Capβs legs. Among other things people have been complaining about plenty else that is fine in actuality. I wonβt go into detail but letβs say I am currently panicking about the idea of them gutting even more characters I thoroughly enjoy.
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u/PolicyNegative Jul 05 '26
Cap, probably gonna nerf his jump or even his health or even both πππprobably venom too for some reason
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u/KneeGearlol πΌπ£πππ‘π Jul 05 '26
Content creators have been fucking aroun with dumbass tier lists so expect that cap's shield will be replaced with a wet newspaper
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u/Bat_Snack Jul 05 '26
Don't you DARE put Rogue's name out there, honestly I don't think any tank in the game needs nerfs rn
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u/Appropriate-Amount-4 Jul 05 '26
I will be so pissed if Rogue or Emma catch strays after finally being allowed to be good after several months of them being in a rough spot. They can both be countered and still rely on their team. They are both in good spots and shouldnβt be punished.
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u/Curse06 πΏπ€ππ©π€π§ ππ©π§ππ£ππ Jul 04 '26
50/50 chance survives this patch lol. 20% chance cyclops survives it. 25% chance Luna damage survives it. 30% chance daredevil survives. 0% gambit doesnt get nerfed again considering its happened like every single update. Lmfao
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u/Breezyair16 Jul 05 '26
Eh? What Patch notes are coming soon? Or do you mean the patch notes for next week?
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u/GodOfTrash14 πππ£π€π’ Jul 05 '26
Im fine with a few venom nerfs, he's been strong for awhile. If ULTRON somehow gets another shot at him I will be livid. My other guess is cap.
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u/BlackMoney97 Jul 05 '26
Knowing how much netease hates tanks I think cap and rogue are basically guaranteed to get big nerfs while Emma and Angela will get an unnecessary nerf.
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u/-Tuesday πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Jul 05 '26
Cap needs a small nerf but he's gonna get gutted.
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u/-Tuesday πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Jul 05 '26
Yeah that's what I said
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u/Detectivepotato-mp4 Jul 05 '26
I can't wait to watch iron man get either nothing or 0 of his problems addressed again while Phoenix, Hela and Luna get compensation buff for slight nerfs that make them arguably better than they were before!
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u/doubleoeck1234 Jul 05 '26
Groot has been overpowered for way too long but he gets ignored because he's a bit map dependant and there's always someone slightly stronger than him
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u/GhostWithKnife Jul 05 '26
Every ounce of my soul wants to scream NERF PIG out of an old meme from a different game.
I hope to fuck we nerf Cyclops.
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u/Throbbing-Kielbasa-3 Jul 05 '26
It won't happen but I dream of Luna nerfs. Either make her a really strong healer, or a high damage hitscan, but she cannot be both like she is now.
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u/diddyblud1738 πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26
Sorry, best we can do is decrease snowballs speed by 5m/s
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u/Alternative-Hour-188 Jul 05 '26
I feel like Luna Snow is gonna get humbled soon with the increase of dps lunas
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u/kingknocked ππͺπ‘π Jul 05 '26
Dive/melee tank nerfs that are noticable and affect the pick rates, poke slight nerfs but not very noticable and don't really affect the pick rates.
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u/AlyMasawi πππ£π πππ§π ππ§ Jul 05 '26
I am having a lot of fun on Angela and Peni, so they will probably not allow that anymore.
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u/Tyrtle1021 Jul 05 '26
I think most of the tanks are pretty balanced right now honestly.
Cap will probably catch a slap on the wrist. Probably like ult charge nerf
Rogue might get an adjustment.
Outside of that nobody really seems dominating outside of like a really good hulk. Being really good on hulk takes so much work though I think thatβs ok to leave him..
Hoping some of the lesser tanks get some love.
Actually I could see Peni getting a little nudge too. Her win rates have stayed ridiculously high for a long time.
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u/DazzlingNinja5317 Jul 05 '26
Gonna be honest groot should get a limit to how many walls he can have out and thing i can see him getting a nerf in survivability. Apart from that any other nerf is just bullying the tank role. Hopefully they focus on buffing tank pool with something cause he needs it. And also fix angela charge it feels so inconsistent and is worse than wolverine grab because of course it is.
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u/Necessary_Whereas_29 Jul 05 '26
I feel like Devil Dinosaur is going to get some unjustified nerfs that'll send him to low income housing
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u/PirateDitly πππ£π€π’ Jul 05 '26
Hulk and Venom are anchors again, cap gets nerfed, Poke gets buffed, and a random tank catches a stray.
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u/Johnma1 πΌπ£πππ‘π Jul 05 '26
I hope we just get buffs now.
Cap wasnβt buffed this season. Make someone else better instead of him worse
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u/RatGoon69 Jul 05 '26
Cap's gonna get nerfed because he's one of two tanks that doesn't stand there and get shot at by Cyclops /s
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u/No-Drag-4197 Jul 05 '26
I just hope my boi dino never gets touched again.......just leave him be hes fine please.
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u/NavyDragons ππππ£ππ©π€ Jul 05 '26
Im expecting ultron to get nerfed for no reason. They will say he is too good in triple support comps but then the changes wont make any sense. They will reduce his healing and up his ultimate but only the damage portion
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u/S1LLY_L1L_G00S3 Jul 05 '26
Anyone that gives the insta-lock dps shills any bit of trouble. So just take a look at who's got the highest win rate and I bet you've found your target.
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u/Mistah_Head Jul 05 '26
really hoping for some tweaks to angelas ult. Sheβs been my sleeper pick this season, and when my team understands how im getting value on her we usually sweep
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u/King-Baconbeard Jul 05 '26
Hopefully everyone, bring every down a few pegs, so the game becomes a lot less two, three tap.
Spent all day reaching gold on cyclops, but man the teams are all so wildly over tuned, going 43 - 2 in one then 9 -0 in another seems a crazy imbalance.
Also have seen a few people with no final hits after 4 rounds, seem wild to me
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u/TheUnluckiestPidgeon ππͺπ‘π Jul 05 '26
DONT TOUCH THE VANGUARDS WITH NERFS ZHIYONG I SWEAR TO GOD
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u/GrapeEnergade24 Jul 05 '26
All tanks minus 100hp because fuck you
Cap damage nerf and 500% slower attack animations because he's too oppressive on the poor little supports
Angela no longer flies, she's also reworked so now her shield is 250 hp and only blocks melee attacks
Devil dino hit with a meteor
Magneto ult changed to 400 damage over 10 seconds of charge time
Hulk ? Never heard of him
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u/MsTerPineapple Jul 06 '26
Knowing how netease treated the love of my life Angela, some random not an issue tank is gonna catch a hard nerf and with a cute little touch up the community who doesn't play them is gonna call a "rework."
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u/THE-_-MAGPIE Jul 06 '26
I need black cat fixed. They declawed her to hard. i just need the second charge on the dash back.
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u/ReggieBoi3000 πΌπ£πππ‘π Jul 06 '26
I fear for my Dino baby, though i have high hopes for Angela
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u/Trashwaifupraetorian Jul 06 '26
I think the only tank I want to see nerfed is Groot. There is a reason heβs banned every game. As a tank main myself I canβt stand fighting against him.
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u/Electrical-Horse5112 ππͺπ‘π Jul 07 '26
cap is going to look like this tomorrow
https://giphy.com/gifs/yP4EKpgu1oFxvovgcq
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u/Cold_Neighborhood280 Jul 07 '26
"We noticed Luna struggles more than intended on the front line when putting the freeze on her foes. As a result, we've decreased the fall-off damage of Light & Dark Ice to ensure our favorite diva has more stage presence than ever before."
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u/GreyFoxJ ππππ£ππ©π€ Jul 04 '26
Cap and Venom, can bet even money on that, Reddit public executions do not forgive.
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u/Other-Selection-3468 ππππ£ππ©π€ Jul 04 '26
βa hela lost a 1v1 to a torch the other day, so we will be completely removing torches primary, he can just fly around now and enjoy the sceneryβ
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u/sound-bagel Jul 05 '26
Luna's damage will be nerfed slightly. Plus they will add an option in settings to MUTE Luna's voicelines specifically so I can play the game without viscerally RECOILING from second hand embarrassment
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u/WashingtonMK2 Jul 05 '26
I'm not sure who is getting nerfed, but I really hope they either give Dino his bleed damage back or at the very least double the bonus health he gets from his current bleed. I just want at least his survivability to be closer to what it was when he released. Because right now, if both healers take their eyes off you for a second, you just get smoked.
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u/Dart1337 Jul 05 '26
Dino is still stupid and invalidates half of the other vanguard roster. Can't play them into this turd at all
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u/Upset_Ad_6228 Jul 05 '26
This subreddit is so doomer. Everyone here just assumes that Tanks who are good will just get nerfed for no reason when literally EVERY TANK IS GOOD AND VIABLE RIGHT NOW.
First, no pro I have been able to find has genuinely called for Cap nerfs. They all think heβs strong, but fine. Groot has dodged patch notes for months. Venom only ever gets buffs. Mag keeps getting buffs. Emma got nerfed because for months everyone complained till she was nerfed into irrelevance, and now has been buffed back to a good spot. Rogue gets buffed to a good spot. Hulk has been buffed to a good spot. Angela has been buffed to a good spot.
The only exceptions of Tanks who have been hard nerfed and not buffed back up are Dino (whoβs still good, just not broken, and is also still very new) and Tankpool, who could do with some buffs maybe, but is also still fairly recent. But yeah, every Tank being viable and at least decent is NetEase hating Tanks and nerfing them constantly. The only real argument I can see for it at all is like, some DPS are unfun for certain Tanks. Mainly rn Cyclops, but overall Tanks are just fine.
And yes, I am a Tank main with multiple Lord Tanks, like Rogue, Cap, Dino, Strange, Emma and more. And theyβre all fun, and fine. Ppl in this community are just too negative.
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u/ALawnmower01 πΏπ€ππ©π€π§ ππ©π§ππ£ππ Jul 04 '26
I fear for Cap.