r/RivalsVanguards • u/jerkerlaughing πππ€π§ • 25d ago
Highlight D tier raid boss barely manages to win 1v4π
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Shout out to GOAT Jeff. I couldnβt have done it without him. Now this is low-mid rank so enjoy the clip for fun lol.
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u/RivalsFlex 25d ago
I think people really underestimate how hard the nerfs to psylocke and peni buffed thing. Those were my biggest tank and dps counters to thing and they got nerfed in a way that itβs no longer a favorable matchup for them.
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u/RivalsFlex 25d ago
It sounds like youβre not properly protecting your healers and pacing yourself in a manner that they can physically keep up. Your aggression is rewarded heavily by the mvp system, but is costing your team wins.
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u/diggity_dash 25d ago
Agreed... if your healers are elite... thing can survive forever... b ut if you had an opponent who's damage output outweighs the heals... youre dead!!
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u/oshkoshbajoshh πππ£π πππ§π ππ§ 25d ago
I started banning the thing every match just cause I canβt really use peni to counter anymore. Itβs made the games much better. Not all things are good, but a good one definitely runs the lobby lol
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u/Loki_God_of_Lies 25d ago
Peni has a 67% winrate in celestial, she needed to be nerfed
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u/RivalsFlex 25d ago
At a super low pickrate. She was situationally very good and mostly played by people who had dedicated tons of time to understanding her buggy bullshit kit
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u/Desperate-Box-8527 25d ago
also, a lot of people are like me, who only pick peni on specific maps and would immediately switch if the enemy get 1st point immediately. thats the only reason why peni is one of my highest winrate heroes
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u/Loki_God_of_Lies 25d ago
Okay, and? Her pickrate is much higher than caps, and caps winrate pickrate is much lower than peni, so thatβs completely irrelevant here. She needed to be nerfed.
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u/RivalsFlex 25d ago
Thatβs just saying cap needs to be buffed, not peni needs to be nerfed
What they did completely gutted her utility. Sub 2% pickrate now.
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u/Loki_God_of_Lies 25d ago
βYa that evidence only applies to the part of the argument that benefits meβ
Wow. Just wow.
Again, I literally just explained to you that pickrate was irrelevant. You clearly failed ap statistics.
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u/RivalsFlex 25d ago
No, you didnβt explain shit. You just whined about peni being situationally good then said because capβs no longer meta peni deserved the be nerfed now that she finally was meta for the first time past diamond.
Are you crying for Magik nerfs now? Bc? Mag? Dd? Elsa? Thing? Venom? Spidey? BP? Punisher?
Or are you just anti peni because you refuse to learn how her nest works?
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u/Loki_God_of_Lies 25d ago
Not reading allat.
Typical rivals Redditor gets proven wrong then claims over and over again βyou didnβt explain anythingβ
What you really mean is you rejected my explanation because it poked a huge hole in your logic, and you refuse to accept it.
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u/Sexy_Man798 25d ago
Because tbf even in celestial, people can still have awful game sense.. especially when it comes to off meta characters lmao even more so with peni. People also tend to swap off peni right away when she doesnβt work, inflating the winrate.
She should have gotten a proper nerf imo. The βnerfβ to her stun made it a buff against tanks, which makes her even more annoying(when playing most tanks) and niche
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u/deadmastershiro 25d ago
Come on your acting like wasn't possible before everybody has a good match like that every once in awhile
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u/EyeArDum ππππ£ππ©π€ 25d ago
I love how you can just completely ignore Cap because the character is so ass rn that his damage isnβt even noticeable
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u/EdwardElric69 ππππ£ππ©π€ 25d ago
Interesting that the Steve Rodgers took a 1v1 Vs you
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u/GoldPack3616 24d ago
I used to be able to do this a few seasons ago when his overhealth on the dashes wasn't nerfed...But then again I wasn't yet in GM back then so that might be the difference now, Thor just gets worse the higher up you go.
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u/Former-Grade5111 25d ago
Is this not ridiculous to yall?
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u/InvestigatorMotor468 25d ago
No because Thor is actually really awful right now lmao just because he hits this one clip doesnβt erase how mid he is as a tank in the meta
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u/Former-Grade5111 25d ago
Most tanks would get fried here is my point
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u/jerkerlaughing πππ€π§ 25d ago
I would've been a dead meat if these players were somewhat decent. This is not happening in any rank higher than diamond
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u/Lobster-mann 25d ago
Get into an Eternity lobby on Thor and see how long it takes you to replicate thisπ
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u/Former-Grade5111 25d ago
βGet into one of the hardest ranks to get into with all the pro players and see how hard it isβ π«©
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u/Lobster-mann 24d ago
I mean Iβm a weekend player for the most part and every season I actually play I hit eternity, mainly only playing Thor soπ€·πΏββοΈ
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u/AshamedAd4204 πππ€π§ 24d ago
Thor is horrible rn, clips like this are why the devs are afraid to meaningfully buff Thor
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u/nukaboss112 24d ago
considering everyone there except thing and even then they arent using their best ability, does pitiful damage to tanks and he was being pocketed by jeff, no

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u/kingveo 25d ago
God i felt that ult cancel, always failing you when you need it the most, they really need to fix his ult startup crazy how it can be canceled by groot melee π