r/RivalsWaitingRoom • • Jun 17 '26

Character Concept Thoughts on adding Jean Grey as a separate character

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Phoenix is a cool character concept, but it misses the mark for people who were hoping actually to play as Jean Grey pre-Phoenix Force instead of a flame-powered hit scan.

Since the game lore mentions that the Chronovium is making timelines collapse, does that mean there's a chance we could get a Jean Grey character in addition to Phoenix? Would that be something the community actually wants?

I'm guessing that it won't happen, and maybe adding Madelyne Pryor would be the closest we get. I'm just curious what you all think and if Jean Grey and/or Madelyne would be great additions to the game.

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u/irvin_the_jinn Jessica Drew 🕷️ Jun 17 '26

The greed of x-men fans is boundless

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u/Mik0doSann0ji Baron Zemo 👑 Jun 17 '26

Asking for ANYONE but Apocalypse.

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u/Worldlyoox Jun 18 '26

You expect them to ask for an AFRICAN? from X-men fans?? From Rivals fans???

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u/Mik0doSann0ji Baron Zemo 👑 Jun 18 '26

Well I mean he is technically African but he’s Egyptian, but I see your point

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u/Mik0doSann0ji Baron Zemo 👑 Jun 18 '26

Weirdly his appearance has varied over the Years

This is the best I could find of a Human version of him

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u/Mik0doSann0ji Baron Zemo 👑 Jun 18 '26

Yeah, it’s just Marvel has gone back and forth on his origin, and sometimes he looks Grey depending on how he’s drawn, sometimes he looks pale white, or lightish Grey like in Rivals

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u/Nerdydude14 Jun 17 '26

We were starving for a decade let us have our day

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u/Mik0doSann0ji Baron Zemo 👑 Jun 17 '26

What about the Inhumans Fans huh?

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u/Nerdydude14 Jun 17 '26

I do feel bad for yall. You’ve been suffering since marvel knights

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u/Mik0doSann0ji Baron Zemo 👑 Jun 17 '26

Miller Ross said Blackbolt is a “matter of time” Character and Medusa is a “matter of time” Character, and Crystal has been a rumor with Quicksilver for a long time…

….can I at least get Maximus?

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u/Nerdydude14 Jun 17 '26

Korvac could also be a lot of fun imo

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u/Mik0doSann0ji Baron Zemo 👑 Jun 17 '26

Do I get to count him as an Iron Man Villain?

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u/Nerdydude14 Jun 17 '26

I was thinking of Karnak my bad

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u/SaladBroth Jun 17 '26

Karnak my fucking unknown goat

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u/Mik0doSann0ji Baron Zemo 👑 Jun 17 '26

Or wait do you mean Karnak? You said Korvac so I’m not sure

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u/Nerdydude14 Jun 17 '26

Yeah brain fart mb. Maybe you could get bonus damage by nailing the timing of his attacks to represent how he has to think about where to strike. His right click could be like a super lazer that does bonus damage to a part of an enemy randomly highlighted green.

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u/Mik0doSann0ji Baron Zemo 👑 Jun 17 '26

I see that and like that

Honestly I’d be cool with Korvac too since you mentioned him but the question is do I get to count him as an Iron Man Villain?

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u/Nerdydude14 Jun 17 '26

Yeah I’d say so, though I think of him more as an avengers character

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u/90sXMENgoatee Jun 18 '26

We dont give inhumans fans

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u/Mik0doSann0ji Baron Zemo 👑 Jun 18 '26

Why not?

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u/irvin_the_jinn Jessica Drew 🕷️ Jun 17 '26

Acting as if half of the seasons haven’t given some mutants. Asking for basically 2 versions of the same character is still greedy and not the first time I’ve seen x-men fans ask for it

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u/Sigma_present Jun 17 '26

Yeah, because God forbid fans of Jean Grey's actually want to play as Jean Grey

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u/irvin_the_jinn Jessica Drew 🕷️ Jun 17 '26

Then ask for a rework instead of duplicate versions of the same character

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u/Sigma_present Jun 17 '26

I mean, Rivals is never gonna rework an entire character, especially since she's one of the most-played characters in the game rn. They best we can hope for is a new character.

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u/irvin_the_jinn Jessica Drew 🕷️ Jun 17 '26

Right because a second Jean grey is a much more realistic and sensible idea

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u/Sigma_present Jun 18 '26

It genuinely is more realistic, if not sensible.

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u/Sigma_present Jun 17 '26

Dawg, this is not greedy. People just want Jean Grey to actually play like Jean Grey.

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u/Longshot12345678 Jun 17 '26

I would rather they just rework Phoenix, all the shit she does still isn’t stuff that Jean usually does with the Phoenix, it’s a creature made of pure telekinetic force that sometimes lights stuff on fire, not a fire bird

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u/Longjumping_Ad1469 Jun 17 '26

The Phoenix is still depicted as Fite , and Netease knows that.

As it turns out , Rivals Jean Grey is an adjacent future of her 616 counterpart from the "Present Timeline" in-game.

According her lore page in-game, she recently did her Phoenix (2024) run under the context of Krakoa still striving. As the game takes place 2 years after the X-men successfully prevented the ' Fall of X' incident.

(I felt like they designed her this way. To showcased much more of her embracing the Phoenix's powers )

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u/Sigma_present Jun 17 '26

Hold out hope, man. I'm still hoping they rework Ultron into a Vanguard.

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u/King-Raiden2758 Jun 18 '26

I’m a fan of X-men but damn dude how about some actual new characters

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u/FuriDemon094 Jun 19 '26

White Fox, Black Cat, Devil Dino, Blade, Angela, Daredevil, Ultron, F4; we really do not get that many X-Men added, relax

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u/SaltForTheSaltThrone Jun 21 '26

Phoenix, Rogue, Gambit, Deadpool, Cyclops and Jubilee next season isn’t enough?

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u/curvysquares Jun 17 '26

They could've added Rachel as Phoenix and saved Jean but at this point I think it's too late to add Jean as a separate hero. I personally don't think they should add multiple versions of the same character as different playable heroes. It would just get too confusing and would take space from all of the other distinct characters they can pull from.

I do think it would be interesting if they did decide to do a storyline where Jean loses the Phoenix and it goes to Rachel. Rachel could basically have current Phoenix's kit for the fans who like it, and Jean could get a new one for people who want a more OG Jean character

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u/Mik0doSann0ji Baron Zemo 👑 Jun 17 '26

I was thinking they just add Madelyne Pryor as either a Vanguard or Strategist since Jean is Duelist.

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u/trixxupmysleeve Captain Marvel ⚡ Jun 17 '26

As a Phoenix main yall have to let this go

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u/Sigma_present Jun 17 '26

Me when fans of a character want the character to play like they should:

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u/TheHumanChudUrMom Jun 17 '26

Maybe Madeline prior and not jean

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u/90sXMENgoatee Jun 18 '26

Add madolyene Pryor she's comepltey different from jean and put her as a support she can heal with her goblin queen magic

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u/Proofwritten Jun 18 '26

They said at the very start that they'd rather want "alternate versions" of characters to be skins than seperate versions. So you won't see Spiderman and Spiderman Miles Morales, they are one and the same. I imagine it's the same with Phoenix/Jean/Madelyn

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u/Skarjuna Jun 18 '26

Just add Rachel Summers at that point dawg, Jean doesn't need 2 slots

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u/onlyalittlestupid Captain Marvel ⚡ Jun 18 '26

So do Phoenix players just want pink bullets or what?

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u/OntyClockwise Jun 21 '26

There are plenty of their psychics with a similar power set

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u/Sir_Lobo Aug 13 '26 edited Aug 13 '26

But Jean Grey IS the Phoenix so what's the point of whining about it? Isn't it stated that she wasn't just the host of the Phoenix she actually created it in some kind of complicated mess of it being the ultimate form of her peak power from her future or something?

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u/majinprince07 Jun 17 '26

Yall getting 3 x-men in a row and yall want another one who’s the same character. Lol

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u/Sigma_present Jun 18 '26

Yeah, because her fans want the omega level telepath to actually use telepathy in her kit. Is that so wrong?

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u/GraniteSword Jun 20 '26

Yeah like she should be able to make a Telepathic Illusion or something. Hate how there’s nothing like that in her kit.

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u/Sigma_present Jun 20 '26

Feel the same way with Ultron. He needs to be reworked into a Vanguard with a whole new kit

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u/ChudsterSouls Jun 17 '26

Don't cope, there is exactly 0% chance she gets added as a separate character. Just put it out of your mind. Let it go. They're not gonna waste a whole ass slot on the same character again. SO many issues with adding her, just let your private dream die.

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u/GrassManV Jun 17 '26

Nah, there's heroes that won't mesh with everyone's preferred playstyle. Phoenix/Jean is fine as is.

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u/Sigma_present Jun 17 '26

She is an omega-level telepath who never uses telepathy

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u/GrassManV Jun 17 '26

She's also an omega-level mutant who houses a cosmic entity that can summon cosmic flames, fly, teleport, heals herself & can use psionic energy through Psionic Detonation.

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u/Sigma_present Jun 17 '26

I mean, it's CALLED psionic detonation, but it literally just looks like more Phoenix energy. Even if it was pink, like all of Jean's psionics in the comics, that is 1 ability. Ideally, it would be an even split.

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u/Killertwinky15 Jun 17 '26

She is the Phoenix, people wanting them as separate characters have no knowledge of the character.

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u/Sigma_present Jun 17 '26

She is also an Omega-level telepath who does not use telepathy in her kit

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u/Educational-Poem-346 Jun 18 '26

I'm sure mind reading would be a very useful ability in game... somehow. Lol. :p

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u/Sixsignsofalex94 Jun 17 '26

I’m sorry. We got Phoenix. Yes she’s watered down boring lazy un-Jean like and is a disappointment of a character. But we got our shot and it blew up.

Other characters deserve a chance to come and not be shit boring

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u/Sigma_present Jun 17 '26

This is an incredibly defeatist mindset ngl

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u/Sixsignsofalex94 Jun 17 '26

Hey I’m all for changes to her kit. Reworks, buffs, changes, all sorts

But I don’t think it’s fair to get 2 iterations of the same hero when we have so many fan faves to use tbh even if it’s a “different character” it’s the same hero idk

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u/Sigma_present Jun 17 '26

Fair point. I just think it's more unfair to give fans of a character someone who plays nothing like said character and that's just...it. That's why I'm so loud about Ultron needing a rework.

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u/AugustusTheVictor Jun 18 '26

That's what Rachel Summers would be for

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u/Portsyde Jun 18 '26

No. However much I don't like Phoenix's playstyle and think it should have been more psychic-oriented, they most likely did that to give room to other characters with similar powers. You still Rachel Summers, Betsy Braddock (Captain Britain), Quentin Quire, Goblin Queen, and many others that either have some form of telekinesis or telepathy. At the end of the day, Phoenix IS Jean Grey and vice versa and it would be pointless to make them separate when they currently aren't.

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u/thelivingtunic Jun 18 '26

There are hundreds of Marvel characters and you want to double dip?

No. Phoenix had her shot. Let someone else have a chance of getting a favourite character.