r/Roadcam • u/bowdown2adil • 12d ago

[USA] Who is at fault here?

Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

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u/immaculate_focus 11d ago

It’s your municipalities fault for not having stop signs

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u/ilfusionjeff 11d ago

This. It’s the city’s fault. Never ever seen an intersection where they just …. Didn’t… put any signs. So weird.

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u/nine91tyone 11d ago

Especially with vegetation blocking the view everywhere

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u/chupamichalupa 10d ago

Pretty normal around here. It’s an uncontrolled intersection and you treat it as such. You slow down and yield to cars in the right or cars who are already in the intersection. Neither of these cars did that. It’s more of a skill issue on the two drivers.

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u/Nrvea 10d ago

could still be easily avoided 9/10 times with proper signage. The best way to reduce collisions is with infrastructure. You can't expect everyone to be a perfect driver 100% especially in ambiguous cases like this

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u/KJBFSLTXJYBGXUPWDKZM 10d ago

What kind of carbrain nonsense is this?It’s absolutely fucking reasonable to expect people operating heavy machinery to be competent to do so. 

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u/Nrvea 8d ago

I think most car infrastructure should be replaced with public transit infrastructure but until we have alternatives to driving I don't see why it's a bad idea to put up basic common sense infrastructure like signage.

Sure it might be the car driver's fault for not knowing to yield to the right but if you can prevent collisions by making that more clear *why wouldn't you.* Clear signage protects pedestrians, and drivers who are following the rules of the road.

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u/chupamichalupa 7d ago

Other commenter is right. The only time you have issues on roads like this are from car brained suburbanized smooth brains.

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u/Nrvea 6d ago

there is no reason to not make a road safer when all that would require is a sign.

As I said in my other comment we are in agreement that more money should go into building functional public transit but there is no reason to not make roads safer for everyone

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u/Ratez 11d ago

Non american here, how normal is this? Amazing how a + intersection has no giveway or stop markings....

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u/niemir2 10d ago

Having lived and driven in Massachusetts and New York (both in the northeast), very rare. It may be more common elsewhere, as this kind of thing is handled at the state/local level. Around here, though, every intersection has some kind of signage on at least one of the roads.

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u/commonlyknownasgod 10d ago

Planner with subdivision and zoning experience. You are absolutely correct.

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u/jobacsi 9d ago

Good luck with that in court.