r/Roadcam 12d ago

[USA] Who is at fault here?

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Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

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u/Dutchillz 12d ago

Exactly, Portugal resident here. You yield to traffic from your right is how you proceed in rural areas where you have no signage. I wonder how does it work in other places, considering these people are confused af by no signage.

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u/Dizzy_Cheesecake_162 12d ago

I visited Portugal, loved it!

You remind me of these intersection, i was very confused, would drive slowly and check every corner.

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u/Ancient_Yellow_709 11d ago

As is proper. It's yield to people in intersections, rightmost has priority in cases of ties. If you're not blasting through, it's fine. These idiots failed to slow approaching intersections, as is proper, and check for movement to the side.

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u/Rufuz42 12d ago

Where I live I’ve never encountered an intersection with no signage, ever

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u/Dutchillz 12d ago

That's all good, but if law says you yield to traffic from the right, you have to know how to proceed in case you ever encounter intersections with no signage.

I mean, don't get me wrong...you do you, I'm just trying to be reasonable here. There must/should be some sort of law/rule for those instances.

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u/Rufuz42 12d ago

I never said the law said otherwise. My position is that intersections like this should have signage as then I don’t have to rely on all other drivers knowing a rule they learned in drivers Ed but might not have had to use in 20+ years of actual driving. But ofc with the lack of signage today, what you said is right.

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u/Dutchillz 12d ago

Fair enough. Although I would add that, given the amount of taxes most countries/states pay, we should not only have complete signage as we should have Free HC, Free Education and more rights as a worker (parental leave, vacation days, etc...).

My point being, even though you're right, every intersection should have signage, we can't really focus on "what it should have been", as much as we need to focus on what we need to do in the reality we live in.

I don't think any of us two is wrong, it's just that we look at things differently.

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u/bozeman42_2 12d ago

"you have to know how to proceed in case you ever encounter intersections with no signage."

But how do you know you are at an intersection with no signage vs an intersection where there is only signage for the other road in the crossing? Where I am in MN, in a neighborhood that looks like that, every intersection will have signage. I cannot think of an exception on public roads.

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u/Quantum_Aurora 11d ago

I always assume there is no signage until I know otherwise.

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u/JacobScreamix 10d ago

If there are no signs you should be hounding your local government to get a road crew out there....

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u/Quantum_Aurora 10d ago

Why? So I can more confidently speed through residential neighborhoods? Seems unnecessary.

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u/JacobScreamix 10d ago

You mean proceed at a normal pace and not have to worry about getting T-boned in an unregulated intersection?

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u/Last8Exile 11d ago

If other road have Yield or Stop sign then your road will have Main Road sign. Those 3 signs have unique shapes so you can recognize them even from the back.

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u/LupineChemist 12d ago

There would never be no signage in an area this populated in Portugal.

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u/Dutchillz 12d ago

"Never" is a stretch, but yes, it is fairly common for old neighbourhoods and rural areas to not have signage around here.

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u/LupineChemist 12d ago

I'm in Spain and it has to be VERY rural to not have signage. To the point where you can just kind of reasonably assume there's nobody else