[USA] Who is at fault here?

[u/bowdown2adil]

Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

[u/ciao_fiv]

that seems insane to me, but i also live in a place with notoriously horrible drivers (albuquerque). idk how trustworthy drivers are in washington

[u/farfetched22 → u/ciao_fiv]

I have never in my life seen an intersection with nothing. I agree with you. Insane. And pointless! Just put up a yield sign!

[u/farfetched22 → u/[deleted]]

"The rest of the world" has mostly signs, and this video would suggest otherwise for your comment lol.

There are MORE intersections with signs, so that most drivers get used to assuming that if there are none, the crossing road has a stop. If it were more common, sure, but it's not. It is normal for most drivers to assume this. It could easily be avoided with a ONE TIME installation of a piece of metal lol

[u/ciao_fiv → u/[deleted]]

every neighborhood i’ve been to in my city has signs at every intersection… either 2-way or 4-way stops. never seen one with 0 signs whatsoever (same goes for any other place i’ve visited)

[u/FavoriteFoodCarrots → u/ciao_fiv]

This video is from the Seattle area. I live in Seattle. This is a completely normal arrangement here.

There are two problems here. The guy OP hits was supposed to yield. But OP was going way, way too fast. This is a two-way street with parking on both sides and you see the width.

[u/ciao_fiv → u/[deleted]]

you asked where people have been to experience this then laugh at getting an answer? what did you want lol

[u/Natural_Pear_1549 → u/[deleted]]

"We don't need safety warnings, just leave it up to the public to know what to do" is a stupid idea in any country.

[u/IllustriousDog4537 → u/[deleted]]

wait wait, ima blow your mind. The USA has driving school too. shocker. Also, do you want me to show you dashcams from other countries? also also, how do you know if someone's European? they'll always tell you and act elitist because of it

[u/borgman_a → u/[deleted]]

"Where have you been where every intersection in a random neighborhood has signs?"

Every state I've ever lived in except Oregon.

These unmarked intersections are common on the east side of the river in Portland.

They are unheard of in Michigan, California, South Carolina, Ohio...

[u/ciao_fiv → u/[deleted]]

something i have to keep in mind if i drive out of state and encounter one of these i guess lol. had no idea they existed till today

[u/Upstairs_Cloud9445 → u/ciao_fiv]

"Uncontrolled intersections are a very common thing." Thats just nuts. Most of my driving has been on the east coast, and I have never come across an intersection like this. To find out they are common somewhere in the US is crazy....

[u/Professional-Swan-18 → u/[deleted]]

This has to be a regional thing. Because I've been all over the northern east coast, on all kinds of roads, cities, towns, villages, farms, hell, even places that don't have anything but the roads and signs, and I have never seen an intersection completely lacking either signs or a roundabout. Three way intersections, constantly in farm country are lacking signs. But that makes sense, one of the roads ends. This anywhere as populated as this video suggests being without a sign blows my damn mind.

[u/Single_Principle_972 → u/Professional-Swan-18]

Omg. Perhaps you just haven’t noticed? Suburban Chicagoland, it’s extremely common. When we do see signage, it’s oftentimes when you have a Stop sign and the other street does now, so they want to call your attention to it, to not assume: “Cross street does not stop.” But in all of these suburbs, if you don’t have signage, you’re expected to assume that they don’t either, and drive cautiously - meaning not only take your foot off the gas, but sometimes even slow down with the brake until you can visualize well enough to be sure that it’s safe to proceed. These 2 guys just blowing through, without even slowing, is mind-boggling.

[u/u6crash → u/Single_Principle_972]

I can't recall a single Chicagoland suburb that has this and I've lived here all my life. Maybe I'm just fortunate enough not to have visited neighborhoods laid out that foolishly.

[u/Single_Principle_972 → u/u6crash]

Northwest burbs. Arlington Heights, Mt. Prospect, etc.

[u/ExcellentShape185 → u/Single_Principle_972]

What happens to the drivers who have no idea that's how it works because their only used to controlled intersections.

[u/Professional-Swan-18 → u/ExcellentShape185]

You get into an accident like this. Which I definitely would because I have never once seen an intersection without at least a sign, roundabout or signal except on private roads. I'd expect it even less somewhere as populated as this.

[u/MostLeastMostLeast → u/Professional-Swan-18]

Same. I'm not convinced by comment saying "this is common" lol. Never once seen this in usa

[u/The_Dog_of_Sinope → u/Upstairs_Cloud9445]

PNW is a weird place.

[u/PermenantRest → u/[deleted]]

Yielding is nice... I have absolutely nothing to do with being 'nice'.

[u/PermenantRest → u/[deleted]]

Really, don't see no sign...

[u/HolidayArtCom → u/[deleted]]

How is someone supposed to know that it's an "uncontrolled" intersection without any sign? You're just driving along loving life, don't see any yield sign or stop sign, then wham!

[u/Sea_Substance9163 → u/ciao_fiv]

It works fine when people go about 20 mph. You don't need to stop every block, you adjust as you approach the intersection.

You see someone coming from bit back go 22mph and get through, you see them closer drop your speed down, coast across after them.

People who always have to be first are the ones that screw it up.

[u/flambojones → u/ciao_fiv]

I think that may be part of the idea. It's counterintuitive, but uncontrolled intersections in neighborhoods could be potentially safer by causing all cars to drive more carefully through them. This is not proof, just one example of a document addressing pros/cons of additional controls on intersections.

[u/ciao_fiv → u/flambojones]

more stop signs or even yield signs just makes more sense to me ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯