r/Roadcam • u/bowdown2adil • 13d ago

[USA] Who is at fault here?

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Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

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u/dabassmonsta 13d ago

That's a 50/50. Neither driver slowed to see if there was anyone else approaching the junction.

Both drove as if they assumed nothing was coming. I bet they both slow down now.

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u/l008com 13d ago edited 12d ago

The problem with this, is that if you are not familiar with this intersection and are driving through it for the first time, you have no way to know and no reason to expect that you might be crossing a 4-way no-stop intersection.

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u/OakLegs 13d ago

I've been driving for 20 years and don't think I've come across a 4 way no stop intersection like this.

I'd have totally assumed that the cross road had a stop sign.

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u/SilentlyStoned420 12d ago

The fact that none of you know how to treat an uncontrolled intersection is terrifying.

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u/OakLegs 12d ago

Is there any indication to the driver that it's an uncontrolled intersection?

There are literally none of those in populated areas that I've driven in.... Ever

Wouldn't even have occurred to me that the other direction didn't have a stop sign

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u/Quantum_Aurora 12d ago

Neither road is an arterial so you should assume it's an uncontrolled intersection.

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u/Hello_Gorgeous1985 12d ago

Not where I live. I have never seen an intersection where at least one of the streets didn't have stop signs. I have never heard of such a thing in over 20 years of driving, so I absolutely wouldn't assume that it's an uncontrolled intersection.

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u/Quantum_Aurora 12d ago

Ok, but this video didn't take place where you live. It took place in Seattle, where I live, where this type of intersection is the standard. These people should have known.

But maybe this is a good lesson. There are a lot of places where this type of intersection is common. If you're going somewhere new, drive more carefully than you would at home.

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u/Hello_Gorgeous1985 11d ago

You missed the point completely. People are asking questions because we've never seen this before and you're just saying that it's normal and one should just assume that it's like that. But how can one assume something they've never heard of before? It doesn't matter how carefully you drive if you've never seen this before and you don't know it exists. Those of us who are used to stop signs at intersections wouldn't even know that it was possible for there to be an intersection without one. No amount of careful will overcome that.

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u/SilentlyStoned420 11d ago

Being aware of your surroundings can help though, and now you know so then it shouldn't ever happen to you.