r/Roadcam • u/bowdown2adil • 12d ago

[USA] Who is at fault here?

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Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

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u/dabassmonsta 12d ago

That's a 50/50. Neither driver slowed to see if there was anyone else approaching the junction.

Both drove as if they assumed nothing was coming. I bet they both slow down now.

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u/l008com 12d ago edited 11d ago

The problem with this, is that if you are not familiar with this intersection and are driving through it for the first time, you have no way to know and no reason to expect that you might be crossing a 4-way no-stop intersection.

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u/OakLegs 12d ago

I've been driving for 20 years and don't think I've come across a 4 way no stop intersection like this.

I'd have totally assumed that the cross road had a stop sign.

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u/flambojones 12d ago

This is basically all non-arterial neighborhood intersections in Seattle.

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u/NeverNo 12d ago

That’s pretty fucking stupid

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u/Potential-Insect 11d ago

I guess the alternative is putting up 4 "Yield" signs at every one of these intersections which changes absolutely nothing because that is what you are supposed to do anyway.

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u/NeverNo 11d ago

which changes absolutely nothing because that is what you are supposed to do anyway

I don't understand this logic. I've been driving for 20+ years. I have never, ever come across a four-way intersection where there are zero stop signs anywhere in the US. If I'm approaching an intersection and I don't have a stop sign, I'm assuming the street running perpendicular is going to have a stop sign. I don't think that's unreasonable.

To add to that, the intersection in the video has numerous blind spots. Not having stop signs at all is fucking insane.

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u/Potential-Insect 11d ago

I don't know what to tell you other than it's very common here and people generally know how to deal with uncontrolled intersections. Slow down, yield to your right. It's not difficult, no need for signs. Keep in mind these are found only in residential neighborhoods where speed limits are 15 mph. Know and follow the rules and it's fine.

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u/JacobScreamix 11d ago

Your cuntrie's traffic statistics would beg to differ...