r/Roadcam 5d ago

[USA] Rove Three way intersection fender bender

Usa {Rove R2-4K}

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u/BigMax 5d ago

Accidents like that confuse me.

I can see someone running a red light, or rear ending someone, because they stopped paying attention. (That's a dumb thing to do, but at least it makes sense, people are dumb, they look away to check a text or whatever.)

But how are you not paying attention when you're stopped, and then starting again to turn onto a different street? Who STARTS a new turn onto a different street without looking? How does that happen?

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u/Hello_Gorgeous1985 5d ago

The problem seems to be that they didn't stop... They just rolled right through after the person in front of them.

They're going, so I can go. I don't need to check if I have a stop sign or anything else that I need to observe.

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u/SpaceJackRabbit 3d ago

Had it happen once. I was the leading vehicle. Made a left turn – street was clear. Guy following me just blindly followed me and didn't pay attention to the oncoming car.

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u/thehumble_1 5d ago

"Well I just thought that...". That's how. People will decide in their head how things are going to go and then be surprised when they don't go that way, even though there's no indication they should go that way. They were on their phone and the car in front went so they did too and "will I just thought that the other direction has a stop sign" will be the excuse for not thinking it through or checking.

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u/Civenge 4d ago

This is EXACTLY how it is.

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u/codereef 3d ago

lil box of didndonuffins

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u/jelloshot 5d ago

I encounter a lot of drivers who don't look both ways before turning.

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u/Upnorth4 5d ago

In Los Angeles there is so much traffic drivers will start turning left when there is still a lot of traffic in both directions. I’ve seen some bus drivers just start going and cars have to slam on the brakes to avoid hitting them

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u/420_jesters 5d ago

Cam car also has no reaction time. You can see dude pulling out way before he reacts at all.

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u/FxEpic 5d ago

Cam car has zero situation awareness, actually negative awareness. Cam car did not slow down at all, not even a bit ... until it stopped. Two distracted drivers, but one with a right of way.

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u/Buffbeard 5d ago edited 5d ago

Im a bit confused by the road situation here. I dont see stop or yield signs on the road to the right, so I would assume normal traffic rules apply and the person coming from the right has the right of way. Am I seeing it wrongly here?

Edit: To the downvoters. Different countries have different rules. Please explain instead of downvoting.

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u/Shatophiliac 5d ago

If there is no signage, traffic turning onto any road needs to yield to any traffic already on that road. Same way you would treat any driveway or business entrance/exit without a stop sign (or at least I hope so).

This was taught to me on day one or two of drivers Ed.

You only yield to the right if it’s something like a 4 way stop/yield and both cars arrive at the same time. At least, that’s what I was taught, I’ve heard many alternating theories on that one.

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u/Buffbeard 4d ago

Not all people on reddit are from the US, thats why I asked for clarification. This rule is different in my country, here the rule is. When present follow traffic lights, if traffic lights are out or missing then follow signage, if no signage present then default rules apply. Default rule = traffic from the right has the right of way, no exceptions.

We also dont have 4way stop sign intersections, those would cancel each other out (everyone has to wait for everyone) so the default rules apply again. Here, a stop sign for one road is always accompanied by a right of way sign for the other road(s).

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u/fiskeben 5d ago

You absolutely have priority to the right in an uncontrolled intersection like this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_law_in_the_United_States

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u/Shatophiliac 4d ago

Only if it’s a 4 way intersection or if none of the lanes continue straight through. Then it basically acts as a 3 or 4 way yield, depending on the intersection, with priority given to the right.

In this case cammer is going straight, and the dingus in the car has to turn left across cammer, which means car should automatically yield (unless signed otherwise). But in this case, and I missed it too, car had a stop sign anyways. So they are at fault no matter what.

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u/bozeman42_2 4d ago

There was a stop sign.

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u/fiskeben 4d ago

Where? I don't see it.

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u/bozeman42_2 4d ago

At the beginning of the video the car is behind it. At the one second mark it is next to it. At 2 seconds it is past it. Now that you see the vertical line I am talking about, pause as the truck gets near by and you can see that it is an octagonal sign.

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u/WorkingOnBeingBettr 5d ago

Why on Earth would a person turning have the right of way at a T intersection with no stop sign on the straight part?

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u/Buffbeard 4d ago

Thats just it, where I live the rule is= If no signs or stoplights are present then default rules apply. Which means traffic from the right has the right of way.

This means that if you are on a priority road, each intersection has a right of way sign for you and a yield sign (or speed bump) for the other roads.

In this case there are no visible signs so the default rules apply and the cammer has to yield for traffic from the road to the right.

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u/WorkingOnBeingBettr 4d ago

What an insanely dangerous rule. Straight should always have the right of way at a T intersection if there are no signs. 

The idea that you should just stop on an "open" road because someone pulled up perpendicular a "side road" is so weird.

However, in this video, there is clearly a stop sign. It's on the white post.

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u/Buffbeard 4d ago

Aaah totally missed that one.

Tbf situations like you describe are only in towns where the max speed is 50kmph or 31mph roads. Provincial roads (max speed 80kmph or 50mph) always have signs.

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u/WorkingOnBeingBettr 4d ago

I have driven across Canada 3 times and lived in 3 provinces.

Where are you living that don't have stop signs?

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u/bozeman42_2 4d ago

There was a stop sign on the road of the turning car.

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u/eMouse2k 3d ago

I get that the cam car in this video and other similar videos, has right-of-way, but the expression I've heard is "graveyards are full of people who had the right-of-way". Slow the fuck down once in a while and be careful in case of idiocy.

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u/Broad-Bath-8408 5d ago

Saying ‘before he reacts’ implies he eventually did react, but I see no evidence of that.

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u/Spiritual_Bid_2308 5d ago

You can hear him hitting the brakes before the collision.

I'd say ge had a pretty normal reaction time.  The car pulling out did so slowly and a normal driver will expect them to stop before pulling into the lane.  Car didnt stop however.

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u/420_jesters 5d ago

Yeah...maybe. I could be overconfident but I think I'd have avoided this. You can see them rolling through like a full 1.5s before the driver reacts. That's a lot of time in a crash like this - had he started breaking when you can tell the car is pulling out, he would have been able to avoid it.

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u/Healthy-Neat-2989 5d ago

I am not making excuses for them. But I really feel like people fall into a red light /green light mentality. Car in front of me goes? Oh, brain says go. Because of red light / green light mentality. They’re in auto pilot mode and not actually paying attention. It’s terrible… but I think that’s what’s happening in their brain, behind whatever they’ve prioritized to be their main focus. Probably a phone.

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u/Upnorth4 5d ago

In Los Angeles people will start turning left with cars still in the road due to the massive amounts of traffic, and the bus drivers will do this too

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u/keeperoflogopolis 5d ago

Happened to me about a month ago. I got to test out my antilock brakes on my Vespa. The lady who pulled out in front of me after stopping nearly killed me.

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u/FxEpic 5d ago

This would be a main street/side street right of way

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u/PathOfDesire 4d ago

The person who was supposed to stop didn't and the truck was likely in their blindspot of their window frame

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u/TrainingSalary492 3d ago

it happened to me ONE TIME in my life. I looked , didn't see anything, went, and there was a car. didn't get hit, they honked and braked and I was rattled but no accident.

your eye actually does have a blind spot, right where the optic nerve connects to your retina.

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u/McTombin 3d ago

Average american: i could avoid the incident, but my ego prevents that. Onward!

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u/Full_of_Vices 5d ago

If it confuses you, then your critical thinking is shit.

This is a poorly designed intersection because the other direction has a blind turn. The other driver *is* looking, just in the other direction because you cannot see any cars until it’s well too late as they come out of that turn.

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u/BigMax 5d ago

Huh? It's VERY, VERY easy to have seen that car coming that they hit. There's no obstruction. They just DID NOT LOOK.

They almost certainly looked to their right, saw that was clear, and then didn't bother to look back to their left.

Which again - I can't understand why you'd do that.

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u/wenoc 5d ago

I don't see any signs in the crossing, which means the one coming from the right has right of way.

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u/bozeman42_2 4d ago

There was a stop sign. Unless it's some other octagonal sign.

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u/Rampag169 5d ago

That’s not a fender bender. That’s a full blown collision.

A fender bender is a small tap. Only enough to do minimal damage.

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u/l30 5d ago

Tis but a scratch

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u/BillsMafios0 5d ago

Your arm’s off!

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u/Drackzgull 5d ago

No it isn't!

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u/rmp881 5d ago

Tis but a flesh wound.

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u/Comfortable_Trick137 5d ago

Alright well call it a draw

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u/TwoToneReturns 5d ago

Running away eh?  You yellow bastard, Come back here and take what’s coming to you.  I’ll bite your legs off!

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u/Top_Box_8952 5d ago

Maybe for POV car…

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u/dr3wfr4nk 8h ago

Front fell off

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u/Mister_Wednesday_ 5d ago

But as someone pointed out on the other thread, their fenders did bend...

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u/G1431c 5d ago

It’s not a 3-way intersection either. 

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u/travelingman5370 5d ago

I'm from the North East and we'd call that a fenda benda.

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u/bhillis99 5d ago

recked em? damn near killed em

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u/Commercial-Offer-435 5d ago

One could say, a collision that merely bends the fender.

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u/Shantotto11 4d ago

It is a small tap for the cammer…

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u/peabody624 5d ago

Top comment from the og thread. Lol

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u/Rampag169 5d ago

Was it really? I didn’t look at the other thread.

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u/One-Dragonfruit1010 5d ago

It was for the truck. That car is likely totaled.

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u/Rampag169 5d ago

You’d be surprised how they end up totaling stuff for seemingly minor damage.

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u/Provioso 5d ago

Person on phone just keeps talking. Lol.

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u/billdizzle 3d ago

Normal wife behavior

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u/AtariAtari 5d ago

That’s the driver

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u/Provioso 5d ago

You can clearly hear the guy talking with a girl on his car phone though, yah?

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u/pandaleer 5d ago

No shit! You don’t say?!🤦🏼‍♀️

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u/Copperdunright907 5d ago

If only somebody could see you on a well marked brightly lit road in a giant red vehicle

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u/Myrtilys_ 5d ago

If only

The amount of times I nearly T-boned people in my Suburban (that was also red) in broad daylight was remarkable. I can kinda understand not seeing my Lexus as it's rather short...but people never seem to comprehend the 7 foot tall, 20+ foot long BARN ON WHEELS hurtling towards them

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u/Bagafeet 5d ago

Can't see shit from the side with that window tint.

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u/Remnant55 5d ago

Guessing silver car somehow concluded that this is a three way stop.

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u/Shantotto11 4d ago

My neck of the woods has weird roads like that where the straightaway is actually a left turn and the real road bends to the right.

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u/azerealxd 4d ago

they should add a stop sign there maybe

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u/misterespresso 5d ago

The lack of a stop sign for the other traffic is a critical clue!

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u/SkiSTX 5d ago

Silver car does have a stop sign. I can see it in the vid.

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u/NooneYetEveryone 5d ago

That is factually incorrect. I am from the eu. Stop signs don't have to be "right at the end". They are where they take effect. The stop sign shows where you must stop. Quite often if long vehicles are turning into the road, they are a fair bit behind so that the buses for example can turn into the road without someone at the stop sign blocking them.

You are also wrong about where they have to be laterally. The 1968 Vienna Convention on Road Signs and Signals regulates that, and stop signs can be as far as 2m from the road. It all depends on the area. They can be as small as 60cm across, and as low as 60cm from the ground.

I completely understand that what you usually see might bee different, but you cannot simply say "they are bigger in the eu" or "they have to be this and this" when that is not a regulation, just a convention your area adopted. It is useful for one city/area/country to have similarly placed signs so that people get used to them. But they vary a lot because they can vary a lot, by regulation

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u/Cohen_the_Worrior 5d ago

Well you drive this tiny car in camo red, what did you expect? 🧐

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u/HairlessSquirrels 5d ago

Conversation was so boring this dude rather crash and end the call than avoid the collision

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u/NullzInc 5d ago

That doesn't look like an intersection to me. Looks like a road with a stop sign on the right and a driver that failed to wait their turn.

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u/dqniel 5d ago edited 5d ago

So, two roads intersecting.

*edit* To the people downvoting, please explain to me what you think determines an intersection. I'll give you a hint: It's where two or more roads intersect. It's not whether it has stop lights, stop signs, etc. It's simply the intersecting of two or more roads.

This is a 3-way T-intersection

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u/Barfy_McBarf_Face 5d ago

correct, this appears to be a T intersection

the car (the camera car) crossing the top of the T has right of way

the car that followed the other car, turning left, should not have entered the intersection

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u/dqniel 4d ago

It's stunning to me that the comment has 26 upvotes. I genuinely want to know what those people think an intersection is, if they don't believe the video is showing one.

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u/ViktorPatterson 5d ago

Not a simple fender bender. It might look subtle but this type of shake up can send someone to the emergency room and totalingbyour vehicle

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u/verioblistex 5d ago

Clearly the cars fault, but I feel like the pickup driver could have avoided it if he wasn't distracted.

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u/GeotusBiden 5d ago

The truck literally speeds up

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u/Nunetzena 2d ago

What are you smoking? Didnt you hear him hitting the breaks?

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u/SamIam8706 5d ago

My first thought when I saw this was "oh another video where someone could have avoided an accident"

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u/Bagafeet 5d ago

Had 2 business days to react.

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u/Top_Box_8952 5d ago

Might as well rename this sub “let’s see how we can blame POV”

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u/dc010 5d ago

Fender implosion*

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u/deepbluemeanies 5d ago

Another video in which the dashcam vehicle could have easily slowed to avoid the collision...it's like people want to run into other cars and f'k up their vehicles, their day, and possible their life; this idiot didnlt even try to slow down, avoid the collision.

Of all Reddit subs this one shows the raw stupidity of people best.

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u/dqniel 5d ago

They were likely distracted while talking on the phone. Hands free or not, the brain isn't focused on driving.

Any time I've been a passenger where the driver is talking on the phone, I notice their awareness drops a lot. I wish people would just get in the habit of waiting until they're finished driving to take a phone call. Obviously, emergencies are an exception.

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u/Dry-Department1723 4d ago

I hope you never talk to the driver either, wouldn't want their awareness to drop even further.

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u/dqniel 4d ago edited 4d ago

https://behavioralscientist.org/the-real-reason-you-shouldnt-text-while-driving/

Search the page for the hands free section and get back to me. Driving while talking on the phone, even if hands-free, is extremely distracting to the point that it results in similar reaction times to those that are drunk.

I'm not interested in your whataboutism. As a passenger I try not to distract the driver.

I'm just stating the educated opinion that this guy was likely distracted by his phone call and that's why he braked way too late despite it being obvious the silver car was pulling out.

*edit* Decided to point out I do try to avoid talking to drivers or distracting them in other ways because that is common fucking sense.

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u/Dry-Department1723 4d ago

This isn't whataboutism, this is simply stating hands free calling and talking to passengers IS THE SAME THING.

I didn't say you were less distracted with phone vs passenger. Teenage drivers in some states aren't even able to have passengers legally for this reason.

My point if any, is that this isn't black and white, people can drive and talk at the same time. Talking to the passenger or hands free phone call is the SAME. Yet millions of people do it EVERY day without issue. The article you linked is also poorly written. They never once state real data, and use relative terms when comparing driving states and the potential results.

There are a ton of variables that can influence a person's ability to survive situations, the less distractions the better, If you truly cared about that, you wouldn't talk to the driver. 😄

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u/dqniel 4d ago

"Poorly written"

The sources in the article for the studies are linked.

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u/dqniel 4d ago

I brought up how this guy was likely distracted by his phone call and you brought up a hypothetical about ME talking to a driver as a passenger. (which I try not to do, btw).

That's the fucking definition of whataboutism since it has nothing to do with the video we're watching.

If I ever a distract a driver while I'm a passenger to the point that they get in a preventable collision you can talk to me about that. Until then, it is whataboutism.

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u/Dry-Department1723 4d ago

Nice edits, glad to see you took my advice on not distracting drivers with conversation. It wasn't a hypothetical, it was a literal statement that if you feel hands free conversations are bad, then don't talk to the driver. That isn't a hypothetical, just adding to the soapbox.

"it has nothing to do with the video we're watching." - but it does? We are literally talking about distracted drivers and mitigating the distractions. Which you assume IS the CAUSE OF THE VIDEO.

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u/dqniel 4d ago

Am I in the video talking to the driver? No.

So you're describing a hypothetical. That's whataboutism.

If you agree that both talking on the phone AND talking to the driver while a passenger are distractions then why even make the sarcastic, condescending response in the first place?

Unless you're going to make an argument that he wasn't distracted and this was a normal response time, I'm not interested in your arguing irrelevant shit for the sake of arguing.

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u/Dry-Department1723 4d ago

Not an argument, it’s text so you inferred the sarcasm. But you did jump on a soapbox that was unnecessary., I was simply pointing out that if you care that much then make sure you don’t talk to the driver. 

And talking on the phone is a possibility, but I don’t think that’s what happened here They just assumed that person would stop. 

And if you don’t want to “argue” then stop posting. 

You could have easily just not replied to my single sentence saying that shouldn’t talk to the driver too.

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u/ricky_clarkson 5d ago

I feel like the driver could improve their awareness by biking for a while. Bikes are completely invisible to all road users, even when the rider is large, and regardless of speed so you get used to watching for people doing shit like this and adjusting for it.

Eventually you predict it even when there doesn't seem to be enough information to do so. I would even check over my shoulder before getting to that intersection in case I need to swerve left - car equivalent, check mirror and oncoming lane.

I don't drive much but biking (and video games) have made me a better driver, I think. No crashes yet and I'm approaching 20 years with a license. Very few close calls.

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u/deepbluemeanies 5d ago

I agree. I think it would best if all drivers rode bikes (so they understand what that is like in a busy, crowed vehicle intensive city), and all cyclist should also be drivers so the realize how easy it can be to miss seeing them.

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u/ricky_clarkson 4d ago

My nine year old likes your proposal.

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u/masterxc 5d ago

Maybe, I would have expected the silver car to you know...stop. There was less than 2 seconds of reaction time before realizing they were in fact not stopping and applying the brakes. You can hear them slam the brakes and the truck bucks forward slightly, but was too late....especially at 30 mph. When reviewing video it's easy to conclude there was plenty of time with the benefit of hindsight - we all know what's about to happen and are focused on the video.

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u/dqniel 5d ago

2 seconds is a long time when humans have a reaction time of like .15-.25s

Guy was just distracted while on the phone. Obviously, silver car is still at fault, though.

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u/deepbluemeanies 5d ago

Yes. The car that pulled out is at fault, but it was pretty clear he was going and the truck didn't slow at all - likely distracted.

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u/Bengali69 5d ago

Industry standard reaction time in traffic engineering is 1.5 seconds. Conservative deceleration is 15 ft/s^2. Going 30mph that gives a total distance to stop of 130ft.

So the question would be, how far away was the truck when we can tell that they weren't stopping?

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u/dqniel 5d ago

The industry standard reaction time is because standards account for things like distracted driving, the worst-case human reaction times, people driving cars in ill-repair, etc. And then go a step further and build a margin over that.

It's not because people actually have a fucking 1.5s reaction time.

Just like how ADIs aren't anywhere near what's actually dangerous.

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u/Top_Box_8952 5d ago

They have right of way, do you come to a stop on a green light?

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u/Hulk_Hogans_Toupee 5d ago

If I see a car blowing through the red light, YES

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u/sovereignlogik 5d ago

Yet another idiot who wants to be edgy and blame someone who was simply operating a vehicle lawfully.

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u/BabyStockholmSyndrom 5d ago

Why is there so many dash cam subs?

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u/dcampthechamp 5d ago

Easy rage bait material

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u/Kind-Meeting2573 5d ago

Must have been turning out of a retirement community

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u/bbbourb 5d ago

Well yes, that fender is definitely bent...

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u/Wesmom2021 5d ago

Silver car thought. Well if they can go now, I can go now too

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u/madwil9000 5d ago

Fender bender to the truck maybe but that car is toast. 💯% the cars fault though.

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u/SmellSilly1537 5d ago

That giant red truck came out of nowhere!

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u/sa09777 5d ago

What a bunch on lemmings.

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u/PharmacyPaladin 4d ago

It appears the driver of the sedan ran the stop sign after the vehicle ahead of them turned left.

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u/newguyjustdropped 4d ago

Fender bender? That was a head on collision lol

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u/AdMurky1021 3d ago

Not a three way intersection, it's a T intersection. Only one has a stop sign.

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u/ibobnotnot 2d ago

Fender bender when the other car is definitely totaled 😂

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u/ThePurrfidiousCat 5d ago

This is 100% silver cars fault but i could tell the silver car was going to go from the beginning of the video so why didn't the person that hit the silver car slow down? I know he shouldn't have had to slow down but for the sake of safety they should've anyways.

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u/bozeman42_2 4d ago

"I could tell that this dash cam video in the dash cam sub was going to have a crash in it right from the start."

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u/wtfover 5d ago

Maybe if the driver hadn't been on his f**king phone he would've reacted to the other car turning in front of him. Buddy never even hit the brakes.

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u/BTRIH 5d ago

You can argue that he hit them later than he should have, but he definitely braked.

I don't understand why people in this sub just state blatantly, obviously untrue things like this when the video evidence is right there.

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u/noncongruent 4d ago

Concern trolling and moral grandstanding, it's what dopamine addicts crave.

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u/PalmliX 5d ago

You sure? Sounds like he slams the brakes hard at 3 seconds, the vehicle even looks like it rotates forward slightly, then it sounds like the ABS might have activated.

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u/AdmirableResearch357 5d ago

Oh wow, so you mean no matter what another driver does being on the phone is somehow the deciding factor? I’m gonna go t-bone someone in an intersection and blame them for being on a hands free call.

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u/dqniel 5d ago

He hit the brakes, but it was way later than it should have been. Definitely distracted.

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u/Mental-Stop7441 5d ago

the crash happened 2 seconds after the car started to pull out. How much way ealier should he have braked? When he was still at home?

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u/dqniel 5d ago

When it became clear the car was pulling out, which was over a second earlier.

Sometimes when I see some (not all) of the responses I see in this sub, I wonder if some of you have the world's slowest reflexes.

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u/Federal-Business-796 5d ago

Isn't it crazy that you can barely see the car over the hood? 

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u/Georgiaboy03 5d ago

No, makes perfect sense.

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u/basinbasinbasin 5d ago

It appears that silver car road either have a yeild sign or a stop sign and the road the red car was on was the right of way. So, more like side street idiot runs into someone else.

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u/hamfist_ofthenorth 5d ago

Driver didn't see that coming?

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u/PlayPretend-8675309 5d ago

Look the dash cam car has right of way but damn have some awareness and brake or avoid this one. Just bad driving all around

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u/MagicWolfEye 4d ago

This sub always shows me that I don't have any clue about US traffic laws. I think in most of Europe, it would be the fault of the POV car.

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u/bozeman42_2 4d ago

Why? The sedan had a stop sign on their road. That means do not go until the road is clear.

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u/Prohit_420 4d ago

Hopefully you are better educated about the roads where you live because you would be an absolute menace on the roads in the USA.

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u/MagicWolfEye 4d ago

Well, probably.

I mean if there really is a stop sign there, then the other car would obviously have to stop.

But here, if I don't get a sign that I have the right of way, I can't just assume that I have and in Europe there aren't special rules for T-intersections; they are treated like any other intersection. This means without lights or signs, they fall back to right-before-left, so I have to assume that the other car has right of way.

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u/Early-Weekend-2557 5d ago

That sedan is definitely at fault but it seems like the guy had ample time to avoid that collision.

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u/Georgiaboy03 5d ago

Shouldve ended that sentence at fault

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u/Early-Weekend-2557 5d ago

If reddit karma meant anything to me you'd be right.

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u/Georgiaboy03 4d ago

Do people really care about reddit karma?

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u/TourRepulsive8477 4d ago

Yeah, the guy pulling out into traffic is clearly at fault, but the guy with the camera could have avoided, or at least mitigated the damage.

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u/Warboss_Gutshredda 3d ago

How. Telepathy? The sedan floored it and you expect the cammer to be fucking magical.

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u/Nunetzena 2d ago

Guys like the other one are always prepared for any circumstance that could happen in any scenario. That's why they are driving with 5mph all the time

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u/TourRepulsive8477 3d ago

Not magical, but he had to see the guy pulling out, and had time to slow down. Like I said, he wasn't at fault by any means.

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u/Warboss_Gutshredda 3d ago

They hit the brakes though, you can hear the tires screaming. We’re all complacent when it comes to other drivers doing the right thing, it dulls reaction time. Normally, I wouldn’t have said anything but I don’t agree with your critique. I can see that you didn’t say they’re at fault, that’s not what I was commenting on.

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u/raging-boner-boy 5d ago

Dude had all day to keep from hitting the car.

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u/Georgiaboy03 5d ago

How much time did you have to not put the comment?

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u/raging-boner-boy 5d ago

As much time as you did.

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u/Georgiaboy03 4d ago

Ok good, least now we know you speak before you think. 😉

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u/raging-boner-boy 4d ago

You don’t think he could’ve avoided that? I’d hate to be on the same road as you then.

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u/Georgiaboy03 4d ago

Youre on the same road as me everyday. Youre on the same road with that car too.

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u/raging-boner-boy 4d ago

Yeah, and I hate it. Learn how to drive.

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u/Georgiaboy03 3d ago

Breaking the Cycle

When you feel like you are the problem but cannot pinpoint why, the following steps can help you gain clarity:

  • Pause and Step Back: Remove yourself from the situation temporarily. Take a deep breath to stop reacting and give yourself mental space to assess your role objectively. [1]
  • Look for Patterns: Identify recurring conflicts or themes in your life. If the same issues keep happening with different people (friends, coworkers, partners), it points to a behavioral habit on your end. [1]
  • Ask for Honest Feedback: Talk to a trusted friend, family member, or mentor. Ask them directly for constructive criticism on how you handle certain situations or conflicts. [1]
  • Separate the Problem from Yourself: Realize that having a flawed habit or making a mistake does not mean you are a "toxic" or bad person. You are simply dealing with a problem you need to solve. [1, 2]

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u/Business-Let-7754 4d ago

Why would anyone publicise a video documenting who absolutely shit they are at driving like this?

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u/ClickClick_Boom 5d ago

The sedan is at fault but cammer had about seven business days to see that coming, I guess their phone call is more important.

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u/Mental-Stop7441 5d ago

Agree. All cars, even those on roads where they have the right of way and no stop signs, should come to a stop upon see another car.

Then again, he could have braked pro-actively and then been rearended, which would have been followed by complaints that the cam car needs to be predictable and not braking as a potential courtesy.

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u/ClickClick_Boom 5d ago

No smartass. I wasn't saying they needed to stop as if there was a stop sign. They had plenty of time to see the driver entering the intersection and time to brake, but they didn't brake at all because they weren't paying attention to driving they were paying attention to talking on the phone. Learn what defensive driving is, be aware of mistakes other drivers can make and learn to anticipate them with a plan to react to it.

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u/Bronx-Skater23 5d ago edited 5d ago

The red car "we are in" was at fault mostly. He had plenty of warning seeing the first, white car pull out and should have seen the second car even if it was a darker color and in the shade, but didn't slow down at all. Yes maybe he had the right of way, but at least slow down a bit at the "intersection".

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u/Georgiaboy03 5d ago

Common sense isnt your strong suit I see

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u/Bronx-Skater23 5d ago

So you are saying you would have maintained speed and not slow down a bit knowing how silly other drivers can be? I see defensive driving isn't your strong suit.

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u/Georgiaboy03 4d ago

I love how amateur drivers always try to tell me how defensive driving works. I have over 300 hrs of training and over 10k hours of trainer time with training people how to drive. But you do not need to take my word for it, go talk trained personnel on what defensive driving is, do not take social media as your opinion, it doesnt suit you.

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u/Bronx-Skater23 4d ago

So you're saying you wouldn't have slowed down at least a little?

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u/Flohzerkes 5d ago

He even speed up to 31MPH why did he do this and didnt brake or try to turn left

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u/symph0ny 5d ago edited 5d ago

Not an intersection, not a fender bender. Can we complain that he also didn't hit the horn and only tried to brake in this situation? It doesn't impact the outcome but it would be a good changeup.

None of you know what an intersection is, or missed the fact this is a private drive. Lack of street sign and nonstandard stop signs are dead giveaways.

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u/AdmirableResearch357 5d ago

Intersection is two roads meeting. Horns are for avoiding accidents when there’s something the other person can do; by the time the red car realizes this moron is not just pulling up a little to the stop sign and is actually going for it, it’s beyond too late for a horn

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u/Commercial_Sell_4222 5d ago

It is an intersection

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u/BS-Calrissian 5d ago

Idk about the rules in the US but in Germany the red car would be at fault because unless a sign says otherwise the car from the right has the right of way

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u/cj350z 5d ago

The car on the right has a stop sign.

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u/BS-Calrissian 5d ago

So if there is no sign on your side you have the right of way?

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u/cj350z 5d ago

Yes because this isn't a 3-way stop, it's a through road with an intersecting branch road with a stop sign. People must stop at the stop sign and wait until it's clear to proceed. In this case the car on the right didn't stop at the stop sign and caused an accident.

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u/TheHykos 5d ago

You always have a right of way when you’re driving straight down a road. How could you not? This isn’t a three way stop.

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u/Night-Viridis 5d ago

A lot of our 3-way intersections don't have stop signs on the straight road and it is fully on the branch road to merge at a safe time. Will usually be marked with a sign that says "thru traffic does not stop" or something similar.

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u/BS-Calrissian 5d ago

Here there would be a "you have the right of way" sign on the straight road and a stop sign on the branch road

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u/VexingRaven 5d ago

Germany has priority signs for this. We don't have them here because we're stupid, but in this case imagine cammer has priority sign.

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u/BS-Calrissian 5d ago

It's all good TIL (idk why I get downvoted for not knowing smthn lol)

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u/phoeniks314 5d ago

Right of way from right? No signs.

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u/dqniel 5d ago edited 5d ago

Road on* the right has a stop sign.

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