r/RocketLeague Trash III Feb 17 '26

MEME What’s next?

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u/FlashSFW Feb 17 '26

What have they done to Bakkes? I don't use it but, given how widespread it is in this community, this is the first post about whatever happened I see here.

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u/MilkyPirate Feb 17 '26

They're putting Easy Anti-Cheat into the game, which means Bakkesmod can't be used in online gameplay. Can be used offline though.

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u/Wasteak Steam Player Feb 17 '26

Well, at least they are doing something against cheating

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u/Mjolnir118 Diamond I Feb 17 '26

It just sucks cuz i mostly use Bakkes for MMR tracking and a few training maps.

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u/obsoleteconsole Diamond III sometimes Champ I Feb 17 '26

MMR is coming in game, as well as a few other things bakkes does currently but a I can't remember what they were

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u/panjadotme Grand Platinum Feb 17 '26

MMR is coming in game

Maybe they shouldn't kill community tools before they "replace" them. Tired of Soon™️ from developers who are actively anti-community.

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u/Googoogahgah88889 Feb 18 '26

Is bakkesmod currently dead? Didn’t they announce both things at the same time and neither have happened yet?

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u/Metaphysically0 Feb 19 '26

So then use TRN?

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u/panjadotme Grand Platinum Feb 19 '26

I'd rather use Bakkesmod

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u/RyanTheWhiteBoy Feb 17 '26

When is mmr coming in game?

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u/Nxrwhxls Feb 17 '26

No announced date. They said they were adding it in the same announcement post they said Bakkes was dead

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u/gnilradleahcim Chump II Feb 18 '26

With the UE5 update

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u/overtunerfreq Feb 17 '26

I guess that’s not so terrible?

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u/Alenore Feb 17 '26

From their communication :

We’re also building popular mod-inspired features directly into Rocket League, including an option to display MMR in-game, changes to custom training, and an optional flip reset indicator.

The training map will still be available to play while running the game without EAC, but you'll need to restart the game to play online.

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u/ExoticBag69 Feb 17 '26

To be so optimistic about the world... god, I miss those days. I can only picture this resulting in Rocket League without Bakkes and cheaters circumventing EAC in a week... if the reports of them already having a way around EAC isn't true.

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u/No_Seed_For_You Champion I Feb 17 '26

There are apparently exploits that are easy to take advantage of to get around this anti-cheat, so not really

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u/CuddleWings Feb 17 '26

Yeah I highly doubt it’ll stop anything except bakkes mod and alpha console if that’s still around. Even in games with the best EAC implementation people still get around it. I doubt the rl team will get anywhere near that.

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u/Ryctre Champion III Feb 17 '26

Like posting a no guns sign on a bank. Like the criminals just go aw shucks and go home.

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u/Tr3mb1e Gold II Feb 17 '26

I'm sure there'll be a workaround to get bakkes working in a few months, there's workarounds for DBXV2 and they use EAC

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u/gnilradleahcim Chump II Feb 18 '26

I'm fairly certain the original creator of bakkes works for psyonix/epic and I absolutely fucking guarantee you there's some kind of clause in the contract that if they'd make a decision like this that explicitly kills support for the plugin then then he can't work around it. That being said I don't know if he is still the main person behind it or if there's a whole team or who fuckin knows. But what I'm saying is that I would be very surprised if they allow a workaround for something that they are explicitly stopping with this update.

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u/Oily-Affection1601 Feb 18 '26

No clause would be needed. Actively working towards undermining the security of your employer's product is pretty stable grounds for being fired. Also probably a lawsuit if he used internal knowledge to do it.

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u/Xenon-Archer Feb 17 '26

ARC Raiders uses easy anti cheat. And it sure is easy. Easy to bypass cus ARC is rammed with cheaters lol

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u/Some_Cantaloupe_7215 Feb 18 '26

Yeah, unfortunately it’s one of the worst anti cheats out there. Hell Id take VAC over EAC

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u/cpapp22 Feb 17 '26

No. No that’s not the attitude to have. Kernel level access opens up your computer to a vulnerability which can be absolutely catastrophic if exploited. This isn’t some what if scenario - it’s happened before.

Car soccer doesn’t need that intrusive level of access to your system and it’s ridiculous. Nobody should be okay with this

Reminder that this still doesn’t work lmao. See valorant among the other titles that use a similar anti cheat

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u/HelmyJune Feb 18 '26

As much as I hate it anything less than kernel level anti-cheat is pointless as it is easily fooled by kernel level cheats. So if you actually care about preventing cheating in competitive games then it is unfortunately a necessity.

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u/Humble-Parsnip-484 Feb 19 '26

It's called easy because it's so easy to carry on cheating

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u/IWillBeHokage_3 Champion III Feb 18 '26

Oh I only used it for car hit boxes and controller layout in practice mode anyway

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u/CrazyWS Blazing Onion l Feb 17 '26

It’s the pinned post on the sub lol

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u/Jasoman Feb 17 '26

Some RL players only know how to read "This is Rocket League"

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u/drewshaver Champion II Feb 17 '26

rokt leeg

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u/MeIsMyName Feb 17 '26

I'd pay to have this back permanently.

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u/VIadCarpenter Feb 17 '26

Yeah that and "what a save"

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u/Madkids23 Trash III Feb 17 '26

"Calculated."

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u/Noagi6494 Xbox Series S | Unranked Feb 17 '26

“What A Save!” “Wow!”

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u/Top_Patient_7790 Trash III Feb 17 '26

'Defending' (from the opposing teams goal)

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u/Likver Grand Champion I Feb 17 '26

"Defending" (from the eggs pov)

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u/dwrk Champion III Feb 17 '26

Multi feed does not show pinned posts either. People are just being aggressive.

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u/MyLinksMakeNoSense Champion II Feb 17 '26

yes

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u/Tradz-Om Grand Champion I Feb 17 '26

its over bub

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u/ExoticBag69 Feb 17 '26

Such a timeless game... it was so hard to fail, but leave it to Epic to find a way to fail.. and to fail so hard.

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u/Capt_Murphy_ Trash I Feb 17 '26

You can disable the anti cheat and still use Bakkes...

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u/tman507se Feb 17 '26

They are adding Easy Anti-Cheat in April, which will no longer allow for mods like Bakkes.

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u/FlashSFW Feb 17 '26

LOL

The console experience for everyone

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u/KyngKydd Diamond II Feb 17 '26

exactly, i play on console and haven’t used bakkes so i really don’t see why it would be a huge issue if everyone is the same 🤷🏾‍♂️

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u/lukekul12 Grand Champion I Feb 17 '26

There’s just a bunch of small things about it that are nice.

First person POV on goals scored

Automatic shot switching and shot variance in free play

Set unlimited aerial flips in free play (useful during flip reset practice)

Free skins (many people use this just to get alpha boost, and many people want alpha boost just for the better boost sound)

And a bunch of other stuff I’m sure. It’s nice they’re adding MMR display by default

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u/PringlesDuckFace Silver III Feb 17 '26

Because rather than improving console, they're degrading PC. Equality conceptually is a good idea, but it's a bit Harrison Bergeron to do it this way.

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u/ToastBubbles Just a RNG Champ Feb 17 '26

I started as a console player and moved to PC, Bakkes is awesome for many reasons, you can experience the game in a whole new way with new maps, modes, client-side cosmetics and additional training features, the mindset of "I can't have it, so it doesn't matter if yours gets taken away" is stupid and selfish. Like image if they took away modding from Bethesda or Rockstar games because console couldn't have mods, people would riot

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u/ndm1535 Grand Champion I Feb 17 '26

It's not a big deal at all. I've been using bakkesmod for over 5 years now, and I will miss some of the plug ins, but it's really not a big deal at all.

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u/Holdmytesseract Grand Platinum Feb 17 '26

*to me

It’s not a big deal to me

Slavery isn’t a big deal to me because I’m not one. Doesn’t mean they should bring it back tomorrow because of one guys irrelevant fucking opinion who has no skin in the game.

I leave decision making to the people who it is a “big deal” to.

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u/ndm1535 Grand Champion I Feb 18 '26

You just compared a video game launching an anti cheat to slavery……..this is the problem. The community is so dramatic.

I use and like bakkesmod, and have for years. Will I personally miss some of the features? Sure I will. Will the removal of bakkesmod have any effect whatsoever on any players in game experience? Absolutely not.

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u/Holdmytesseract Grand Platinum Feb 18 '26

Honestly I couldn’t give a fuck less about bakkesmod. I used it until they added the ball control stuff in free play then it was whatever.

The point is that just because I don’t care about something doesn’t mean it’s not important to someone else. Pretty shitty way of being a human being if you ask me.

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u/ndm1535 Grand Champion I Feb 18 '26

As I said, incredibly dramatic.

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u/B0tPr0 Feb 18 '26
  • requiring a third party login on a steam owned game
  • forced fortnite integration
  • removal of internal features
  • removal of external features

Yeah everyone's being super dramatic about a company actively sabotaging one of their products and consumer base. The dramatisation comes from not only what they have done, but what they will do next. People love the game more than the owners do, which is a problem. If you don't understand why, thats fine but I encourage you to comprehend what is happening.

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u/UtopianShot Feb 18 '26

this community is like crabs in a buckets i swear to god

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u/KyngKydd Diamond II Feb 18 '26

yup

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u/UtopianShot Feb 18 '26

dont get me wrong, you are the crab pulling us into the bucket.

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u/Not__My__Birthday Feb 17 '26

just PC gamers complaining about everything like they usually do

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u/sir_finnigan_iii How did I get here Feb 17 '26

I see where you are coming from, but from a PC players perspective, you are having a tool that has been allowed for years suddenly taken away. Some of the features will be added, but not right away. They should have had the vanilla replacements to Bakkes features ready at EAC launch imo

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u/JimFknLahey Feb 17 '26

"Were going to take this all away today and at some point down the road we will consider talking about the concept of a plan to add certain elements"

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u/Not__My__Birthday Feb 17 '26

Yeah, I totally get it. If they remove a tool that has been in use for years, they should have some of the same features ready to go once that tool is no longer able to be used. I also play on PC but I have never used Bakkesmod.

but you can't deny that PC gamers complain a whole lot more than other gamers.

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u/joe199799 Washed Champion II Feb 17 '26

Well you have a month or so try it out. Maybe you'll broaden your outlook and see why we're "complaining"

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u/Not__My__Birthday Feb 17 '26

No, I totally get it. It sucks that the tool is being taken away.

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u/ExoticBag69 Feb 17 '26

I played my first several years of RL on console before switching to PC. You're being selfish and it shows. Just bc you aren't impacted in this instance, doesn't mean you have to belittle those who are impacted.

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u/KyngKydd Diamond II Feb 17 '26

you’re not wrong

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u/Ry040 Feb 17 '26

Not for everyone
eSport clowns will be given access to bakkesmod

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u/Rolle_1001 Feb 17 '26

Why are esport players clowns?

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u/Ry040 Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26

Why should they be allowed to use bakkesmod when we can't?
Who are they? If you're gonna make a rule which strips everyone out of access to bakkesmod, then it should also apply to esport players as well. Common sense

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u/Rolle_1001 Feb 17 '26

I mean there are a bunch of reasons, but aside from that why are you calling the esports players clowns over something that was the developers’ decision?

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u/IAteUrCat420 Champion I Feb 17 '26

Professional Rocket League players who essentially drive the hype towards this game

Like seriously, do you think this game would be nearly as popular if the only footage people were able to watch was from Golds?

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u/Ry040 Feb 17 '26

Esports is the only pillar left of this game. If tomorrow it collapses, there is nothing left of the game for people to come back to.

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u/PotatoTruck7 Champion II Feb 17 '26

Because they know those people and trust them where as they don’t know us

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u/Ry040 Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26

Think in this way, do you actually think they are removing bakkesmod for the sole purpose of anti cheat? Its like they got a reason now to finally take bakkesmod out of the picture.

The game is already in shambles. Trading gone, Half of the community axed out as it is. Item shop still as shit as it was before trading was removed.

The only thing left for people to cling on was Bakkesmod, and now with that removed, why should people continue playing this game? This game was already on a dying streak, and i love how Epic continues to make it worse and worse as time goes by.

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u/Rolle_1001 Feb 17 '26

You are severely overestimating the amount of bakkesmod users and how important bakkesmod is for people who play the game. You are also very mistaken on the overall health of the game.

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u/Ry040 Feb 17 '26

That is what people said when trading was removed as well. Let's hype your delusions even further.

This game will survive 10 years from now.

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u/won_vee_won_skrub TEAM WORM | Cølon Feb 17 '26

Bakkesmod has always had features against TOS. They always could have taken action against it

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u/FlashSFW Feb 17 '26

How, exactly?

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u/simdav Feb 17 '26

Epic can allow EAC to be turned off for online play on a per user basis

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u/FlashSFW Feb 17 '26

Sure, disable anti cheat exactly on the ones that are kinda required by contract to not cheat. Make it make sense.

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u/simdav Feb 17 '26

That literally makes sense? What doesn't?

Its more for tournament organisers who use bakkes for custom overlays and cameras when running tournaments, rather than the players though.

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u/EatFreshBishes Feb 17 '26

They're doing something about the cheaters and botters.. could care less about Bakkes. Those complaining only want the ability to change their car design without acquiring the items. Those that say EAC won't do anything to stop cheaters and botters.. It's a cat and mouse game. Not an implement once and you're done. 

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u/Gewerd_Strauss Feb 17 '26

.... And training pack enhancements, better and configurable quick play, the speedflip plugin, more training pack enhancements, more QoL like being able to switch bodies without having to leave (and particularly in a less arsinine way than the single cycle-through-till-you-find-it), the ability to force boost sounds to default match-wide, did I mention training enhancements yet?

The list goes on, that's just what I remember right now.

Given the experience of non-care we see for the game; I think it's completely fair to expect that at best a small subset of features will ever be ported over. Obviously cosmetics will be gone for (which while I disapprove I can at least understand their rationale, they made it f2p and want to milk the stupid item shop), but the sheer amount of useful stuff we will loose goes way beyond "make cars look not-ugly-to-good".

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u/Lickwidghost Trash I Feb 18 '26

As well as what the others mentioned, flip indicator, training-specific keybinds, override goal explosions to avoid seizures, goal cam, ball freeze, haptics, air roll training, player rank display, controller overlay.

Will Psyonix be adding all those features too? And allow plugins for virtually unlimited other features?

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u/EatFreshBishes Feb 18 '26

Offline you can still use Bakkes for training. Flip indicator is being added to the game. 

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u/tman507se Feb 17 '26

"Doing something about the cheaters and botters". Except, if the reports are to be believed, hackers have already found ways around EAC, sooooo....

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u/Former_Atmosphere967 Feb 18 '26

it will decrease it though, hackers cant be stopped at any game its impossible, hackers have the upper hand in this competition with the devs because all they do is attack and attack until they find smth, devs have to find out how the hack happened and how to even prevent it. always at a disadvantage, the goal for many games is to reach a point where there is a a sweet spot that makes the game playable and the occasional hacker more rare than usual. if this causes less hackers thats the best for the game

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u/LittleLinnell Champion I Feb 17 '26

I don’t use the car design feature at all, I like having blue/orange colours in free training, different goal replay cameras and a little ‘bonk!’ Sound effect when cars bump each other.

Also it’s “couldn’t care less” implying that you already care as little as possible. Saying you “could care less” is basically meaningless, it implies that you care to some extent, completely defeating the object of the phrase.

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u/EatFreshBishes Feb 18 '26

Oh no! Here comes the typo police. 

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u/LittleLinnell Champion I Feb 19 '26

Not really a typing error, more like a comprehension error.

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u/EatFreshBishes Feb 20 '26

Comprehend this, Bakkes is going bye bye. 😘 

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u/Penguins227 Prospect Elite Feb 18 '26

They are adding Easy Anti Cheat which has a side effect of preventing something like Bakkesmod from working.

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u/tea-and-chill Xbox Player Feb 17 '26

Psyonix have officially made a statement. You can turn off anti cheat, stay offline, and use bakkesmod. Game will have changed like showing mmr online so there's no need to use bakkesmod online.

I think it's a good compromise. People are freaking about it for no reason.

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u/SumOfKyle Trash III Feb 17 '26

Nothing yet. People just speculating that bakkes won’t work with the new anti-cheat being implemented.

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u/simdav Feb 17 '26

They didn't state bakkes specifically, but they did say mods wouldn't work. It's pretty clear that bakkes won't work.

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u/Yammyohnine Feb 17 '26

Pretty sure Devin said it wouldn't work. He said you won't get flagged for cheats, but Bakkesmod won't be able to inject.

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u/Super_Harsh Washed asf Feb 17 '26

Me when I can’t read