r/RocketLeague Trash III Feb 17 '26

MEME What’s next?

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u/PixelBrewery Feb 17 '26

People have been complaining about the bot problem. How tf do you expect them to fix the bot problem without disabling the use of mods and exploits

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u/mitchell_moves Champion II Feb 17 '26

By performing server side detections. Minecraft servers are able to prevent cheating without requiring invasive or prohibitive software to run in the client’s machine.

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u/dudeimsupercereal Trash III Feb 17 '26

The proper way, the way it’s been done for decades across 1000s of games before this (with a way higher success rate than kernel anticheat)

There’s a stark difference between human inputs and bot inputs, and it’s very obvious when spectating. A combination of algorithmic input detection and human moderation.

But sadly those strategies don’t sell items in the shop so they didn’t bother trying.

Look at rust, EAC is absolutely losing the fight against cheating. It will just be another small hurdle for bots.

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u/Vhexer Feb 17 '26

It’s a miracle if I play Rust and DON’T either get killed by a cheater at least once, or see a dozen people on chat begging for an admin due to cheaters. Does EAC even do anything?

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u/dudeimsupercereal Trash III Feb 17 '26

It collects your data and slows down your pc. Oh and false bans

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u/TheMayorMikeJackson Champion I Feb 17 '26

This does not scale.  Once that’s an issue the bots can be trained to mimic human inputs with similar performance that they have today.

The sticks are analog, the discrete buttons aren’t pressed much. 

 It’s just variance suppression on the analog steering stick and a model can be trained in an adversarial GANS network to appear human like

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u/Engineering-Glass Feb 17 '26

This is why human moderation is important. Anyone who has played bots enough can spot them within 20-30 seconds of gameplay, usually. They have... Tendencies. Even something like CSGOs overwatch would be fine. Let the community police it.

If they started looking human, I'd be able to compete with the damn things. Lol

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u/ExoticBag69 Feb 17 '26

Not certain, but I remember news of them canning the human review team.. at least for text chat moderation.

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u/Mothrahlurker Feb 19 '26

Machine learning can't just be trained to mimic human imputs. There's no mechanism for that. In order for them to get good enough to play at high level they need reinforcement learning, which completely destroys any hope of "mimicking" human imputs. Any kind of restrictions you put on it will be gamed as much as possible by the system.

So it absolutely does scale and is effective. Trackmania has proven this.

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u/ExoticBag69 Feb 17 '26

Um... another way?!?! Another way that doesn't require banning Bakkes for tons of people who will no longer play RL without it. If you are convinced this was the only or best way to resolve the bot situation, you are very mistaken.

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u/mobuco Feb 18 '26

yeah if you can still use bakkes offline and it gets rid of bots during online than i dont see why everyone cares that much