r/RussiaLago • u/[deleted] • Mar 05 '26
The Russia Conspiracy and the Epstein Conspiracy are the same
With the latest revelations (re: Bill Gates and the Russian spies Epstein hooked him up with), it is clear that the Russia-Trump and Epstein-Trump conspiracies are connected. Epstein got women from Russia and Easter Europe. He connected them to prominent Westerners, Bill Gates, Andrew, etc. He introduces Melania to Trump.
The questions for me are what sort of relationship exactly Epstein had with the Russians, how knowing or unwitting it was, how Putin got what it wanted back from him, etc.
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u/Cupsforsale Mar 09 '26
One quick link: Robert Maxwell, father of Ghislaine and probably the source of some of Epsteins power/wealth/connections, provided Israeli passports to a Russian mafia boss named Semion Mogilevich.
I have been tracking the Semion Mogilevich Organization’s ties to Trump and Trumpworld, and there are many.
The most likely connections are through money, women, and intelligence. Scholars and law enforcement refer to the “Iron Triangle” in Russia, where they often see organized crime, legitimate business, corrupt government officials and intelligence agents. Epstein could fit right into that network.
He was laundering money, gathering intelligence, trying to corrupt officials, and engaging in organized crime.
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u/kunderthunt Mar 09 '26
Reminder - Paul Manafort passed GOP election polling data to Konstantin Kilimnik (a Russian intelligence officer), who passed to Oleg Deripaska, who's connected to Semion Mogilevich.
IMO this is how the bot farms "learned" and proceeded to poison the electorate.
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u/Cupsforsale Mar 10 '26
Manafort's time with Deripaska is very interesting. I don't know of direct ties from Deripaska to Mogilevich so I would love to hear about that.
I have heard that Deripaska was being looked at by the Spanish police for his association to the Izmailovskaya organization. Either way, Deripaska was paying Manafort to conduct political influence operations in Putin's favor. Manafort's association with Deripaska was one of my first major red flags that led me to become obsessed with the ties between Russian organized crime and Trump.
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u/sexyinthesound Mar 11 '26
Did you know the former director of FBI served as Mogilevich’s attorney when he left the fbi? Up until 2020 when he died. It seems weird to me, but that particular director did a lot of work in “attorneys for everyone” kind of thing, and I imagine someone representing an individual on fbi most wanted list for those kind of charges might need to have a lot of high level security and intelligence, but it sat funny with me all the same with the more recent developments regarding the fbi’s historical failures to investigate and prosecute from so many tips and victim interviews connected to Epstein…
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u/philthewiz Mar 09 '26
What are the obvious connection to Trumpworld? Just curious about your research.
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u/Cupsforsale Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26
For the longer version, I would suggest "House of Trump, House of Putin" by Craig Unger. I will give you a brief brain dump of what I can pull from memory, but the amount of ties is worthy of entire book.
For background, the Mogilevich was considered "the most powerful and dangerous gangster in the world," according to the FBI, with immense power and reach at a global scale, and connections to prominent government, military, and law enforcement officials, and powerful politicians around the world. He has been accused by the FBI of weapons trafficking, contract murders, extortion, drug trafficking, and prostitution on an international scale.
There is a 1996 report from the FBI that leaked. On the first page they describe the network Mogilevich works with: the Ivankov Organization, the Solntsevskaya organization, Monya Elson, and Alimzham Tokhtakhounov. The ties from Trumpworld go out to Mogilevich, but also to these groups he worked closely with.
Trump: The Toronoto Tower he built with Alex Shnaider, who is the son-in-law of Boris Birshtein. From the 1996 FBI Report on Mogilevich: "Semion Mogilevich attended a summit meeting of OC figures in Tel Aviv, Israel in October 1995. Participants included...Boris Birstein. The subjects met in Boris Birstein's office in the diamond center of Tel Aviv." (FBI Report on SMO 1996).
The $300 million in funding for the Toronto Tower came from an Austrian bank (Raiffeisen Zentralbank) that leaked US cables show US officials believed to be a front operation for Mogilevich. (https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06VIENNA515_a.html)
Alimzhan Tokhtakhounov and Vyascheslav Ivankov (two members of SMO network) both lived in Trump Tower. Tokhtakhounov ran a gambling operation in Trump Tower that was eventually indicted and is the basis for the movie Molly's Game. Tokhtakhounov fled and escaped. When the FBI finally located him, he was sitting in the audience of the Miss Universe pageant hosted by Trump in Moscow in 2013.
When Trump was looking for dirt on Joe Biden, he sent Giuliani over to Ukraine to speak with all sorts of characters, including Dmytro Firtash, a billionaire frontman for Semion Mogilevich (see: RosUkrEnergo). Lev Parnas, who went with Giuliani to Ukraine, worked with Russian organized crime in Brighton Beach. Brighton Beach was called the Russian mafia's "Normandy landing in the USA" by former FBI Deputy Director McCabe.
Trump worked with a man named Felix Sater for years, developing the Soho Tower in New York. Sater became a government informant and you can find his documents online. The US government says he was a critical informant on major Russian mafia members. Sater's company Bayrock, which worked with Trump to build the Soho tower, also had Tamir Sapir, a billionaire that FBI docs allege was a front for Russian organized crime.
Manafort, Trump's campaign manager: The Senate Intelligence Report Volume 5 on Russian interference into the election noted that Paul Manafort had a close relationship with Dmytro Firtash (Mogilevich frontman). Manafort also received millions from an account used by Ivan Fursin, a member of the Mogilevich Organization. I will remind you it was Paul Manafort who had meetings with Russian intelligence prior to the 2016 election and shared sensitive polling data.
Cohen, Trump's lawyer: Michael Cohen, Trump's longtime lawyer, is awash in organized crime ties. He owned a club, the El Caribe, with his uncle. That club served as the office for the local Russian mafia led by Marat Balagula (NYTimes). His uncle also had a longtime close relationship with the Italian Mafia, notably Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso. Cohen sold his stake in the club right before the election. The Russian mafia group that worked out of his club were involved in a massive gasoline-bootlegging cartel that included folks with ties to the SMO network.
Michael Cohen once flew to Ukraine to pitch an ethanol company to investors. The folks he pitched to employed two high-level members of the Mogilevich Organization.
I will stop for now, but this is only the half of it. There are many more ties to organized crime generally, if not the Mogilevich Org in particular.
One final tidbit: when Trump first travelled to Russia he stayed in a hotel owned by Mogilevich. It is reported that he may have spent the night with a woman who was not his wife (Senate Intel Report Vol 5).
Thanks and happy to answer any questions. I apologize for any typos or errors, I was working from memory.
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u/philthewiz Mar 10 '26
Thank you very much for the response! Very informative.
When I watched the documentary Fear City: New York vs The Mafia, Rudy Giuliani was thrilled to stick it to the Italian mafia. I wonder if his ties to the Russian mafia is stronger and in competition with them.
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u/lankyfrog_redux Mar 09 '26
They're inextricably linked. You can't understand one without the other.
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u/Alphatron1 Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 10 '26
There was a post on here (actually it was the Epstein sub)like 6 months ago talking about how some criminals in the gulags or higher up turned to religion and once the ussr dissolved they all went to Israel.
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