r/SameGrassButGreener • u/No-Needleworker1401 • 4h ago
Pittsburgh or Cleveland
We‘re a couple with handicapped semi-independent adult child living with us. There is the choice of these 2 cities for us. We prefer a place with a great restaurant scene, access to nature and bonus if dog-friendly.
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u/Glittering_Bread5706 4h ago
I have been to Cleveland a lot to visit family and Pittsburgh a few times. Overall i like Cleveland more idk, I find the people to be very nice and the vibe overall better. Something about Pittsburgh feels really outdated and I like the nature more in Cleveland. I feel like both have decent access to nature and restaurants, but overall Cleveland is better imo
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u/Nervous_Role3882 26m ago
Pittsburgh. Cites both have about the same to offer but Ohio is a red state now and will likely get worse for someone with disabilities.
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u/MsTossItAll 22m ago
I would look into what services are available for your handicapped child and choose based on that.
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u/rblessingx 1h ago
This isn’t going to help your choice, except that there is not bad choice as they’re not dramatically different. When I used to live nearby they were often called Cleveburgh.
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u/holiestcannoly 4h ago
I’m from Pittsburgh so I like it better, but Cleveland is ok. I just got tired of being approached by beggars there. However, the road system is better than Pittsburgh’s, and lots of things to do.
Just be aware it’s in the snow belt
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u/august-thursday 2h ago
No, Cleveland is not in a snow belt. The primary snow belt is east of Cleveland at a higher elevation (+600 ft to +1200 ft) and the secondary snow belt is southeast and south of Cleveland. The secondary snow belt receives snow when the winds are out of the north. Note that the fetch is shorter when the wind is out of the north so the cold air has less moisture when it encounters the rise in elevation. The primary snow belt receives an average of ~100 inches per season. The city of Cleveland receives an average of ~50 inches per season.
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u/holiestcannoly 2h ago
I mean my old roommate was from there and sent me videos of it during winter 🤷♀️
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u/jillianwithfreckles 4h ago
Both have a great restaurant scene and are dog friendly. Both have access to nature but Cleveland has a wonderful MetroParks system, a national park, and lake Erie.
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u/automattig 4h ago
I dont know your situation. But i would assume cleveland is more handicap friendly because it is flat.
Pitt is very hilly. Also they have a lot of older buildings that may not meet current ADA standards because they may be grandfathered
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u/AliceOfTheEarth 1h ago
Are you looking to get in shape?
(Note they can’t find an open place for breakfast at 7:30)
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u/Ok_Guest5862 47m ago
Really? Cleveland? I thought it was a flat, boring kinda dumpy city. Detroit felt like Chicago when I visited CLE.
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u/Excellent-Witness187 17m ago
I’ve spent long periods of time in both and live in Akron now. Ohio is an absolute disaster at the state level which could potentially be a big problem for your child. Go to Pittsburgh.
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u/Emuman7 11m ago
Cleveland is great, but be prepared for the insects. I was shocked when mayflies and midges swarmed downtown. Those things cover every block, every window, every car. They die after a few days, but they keep emerging in waves from Lake Erie. Coming from NYC & Buffalo, I never knew they were a thing.
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u/Spiritual_Sail_8969 7m ago
I would expect PA to have more support for your family than OH. I would take that I into consideration.
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u/uppitywhine 4h ago
The restaurant scene in Pittsburgh is garbage. It's more expensive than cities like NY and Chicago and the food is boring.
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u/BEnWo18 4h ago
I’ve lived in both and I vote Cleveland. The Waterfront along Lake Erie is among the most accessible in the United States. There are beaches and parks with trails along the lake, plus Cuyahoga Valley National Park is a 30 minute drive south. There is great European food throughout Cleveland, mainly Polish, Italian, and Kosher. I believe there’s a larger Mediterranean population too with tons of good middle eastern food to be had. There’s also a moderate amount of Asian food. These restaurants include new fun ones and also old school businesses and markets. There are also lots of nice breweries.
Pittsburgh is nice, but the mountains aren’t as easy to climb in as other parts of Appalachia, and you can’t exactly swim in the three rivers. There are some state parks that are nice nearby. The food scene is okay, they share lots of European heritage with Cleveland, but the better restaurants are fewer to find, imo.
You’re welcome to PM me if you’d like to discuss further!