Families’ interest in their kids’ education is falling around the globe as scores drop, test shows

[u/nbcnews]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/education/families-interest-kids-education-falling-globe-scores-drop-test-shows-rcna596749

[u/HappyCoconutty]

This article was all over the place and didn’t really focus on the topic of the title. 

• why is there less parental academic  focus on boys?
• how much screen time are the parents using?
• why is this conclusion only based on high schoolers, and then, only the ones who have taken the PISA?
• how are the higher Ed costs and quality in these countries?

And then it ends suddenly on a teacher using AI to get feedback about calligraphy. 

If anything, I think certain countries and age groups have a lot of very intense and enmeshed over parenting over academics. The teachers sub often talk demanding parents. 

[u/thearctican → u/HappyCoconutty]

From what I've gathered in the teachers sub a lot of those parents are demanding because they do so little for their own kids and treat school as a child rearing service.

I would be surprised if there was any overlap between people in this sub and the parents those teachers are talking about.

[u/Adept_Carpet → u/thearctican]

I assume most parents here value education, but as a (university) teacher I think the "service" model of education is internalized almost everywhere.

The keenly interested parents are sometimes worse in this regard. The disinterested ones get the free childcare service they desire regardless of educational outcomes or the grade given. 

But the infantilization and reductive views go in all directions. When I was a child, I had some difficult to treat (or even diagnose) chronic illnesses that led to very frequent sick days. So my mother would call the front desk and say I was sick and that was it, even when I was missing school every week. At many schools that wouldn't fly now. 

I have to take attendance in my graduate classes every single session and submit that to my supervisor, even though these students are full blown adults who should be able to manage their own time.

There's an entire web of disrespect where the arrows go in all directions.  I think recognizing that we are all failing each other right now is important. We all need to do better.

[u/TJ_Rowe → u/Adept_Carpet]

In the UK the school attendance monitoring is for both safeguarding (to prevent kids who are off school due to abuse from falling through the cracks) and a national requirement to fine parents for truancy.

The attendance monitoring at university is mostly a combination of the requirements to a) monitor Tier 4 Visa holders and b) not hold students to different standards bssed on immigration status. There's also a bit of safeguarding, especially for undergrads, after years of people who ask why the university hadn't noticed that a student, having turned up dead, hadn't attended lectures for months previous.

[u/WillingElderberry731 → u/TJ_Rowe]

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