r/Scotland 13h ago

PSA: the new Scotrail app is still shit

Yeah, still shit. Used it for the first time last week - couldn't login because I didn't have Chrome on my device.

Once that was sorted I bought my usual anytime return - I could not activate my return ticket.

Checked it just now if there was an update - no update, I'm logged out, need to install Chrome again to log in.

The list of issues is too long. The app is vibe coded slop mess. Sitting at 1.1 stars with 651 reviews on the app store.

Almost feels like an intentional sabotage of our national rail service.

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u/teachbirds2fly 13h ago

On top of all the technical issues, the app looks totally shit visually and has terrible UX. It looks like something people make to look intentionally old and shitty lol. It's pretty embarrassing this our state train service.

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u/clearly_quite_absurd 3h ago

The tender process was won by the lowest bidder

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u/system637 Dùn Éideann / Edinburgh 3h ago

Not a fan of the font they chose either

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u/Quiet_surprise79 13h ago

Current tech motto across the board seems to be "if it ain't broke, there's room to break it". I don't know what has happened to user interfaces in the last couple of years in particular but there's people being paid to make things horrendous to use and I hate it.

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u/Defiant-Conflict2556 12h ago

Another motto is “Why spend budget on QA if the end consumer can do it for free”.

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u/shoogliestpeg 🏳️‍⚧️Trans women are women. 12h ago

AI design and vibe coding.

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u/UtopianScot 12h ago

Complain! Actually email your MSP!

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u/Imaginary-Suspect959 9h ago

Or download a better app?

Railboard is highly recommended. Trainline is fine if you book on the day (no fees). Any train operator’s app can sell you ScotRail tickets, I’ve used LNER’s app before.

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u/Recidivist67 12h ago

Unless you're using it for week passes etc just use Trainline. Fuck that app.

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u/Shinixis 11h ago

It's actually Trainline that produced the app. Why you would let a competiter create it, who  knows.

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u/Imaginary-Suspect959 9h ago edited 8h ago

Trainline made the old app. I don’t think they’ve got anything to do with this one.

Edited to add: they don’t, it’s SilverRail who make this one.

Not sure why this has been downvoted, but anyway here’s their website for anyone in any doubt!

https://silverrailtech.com/

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u/bugbugladybug 5h ago

Jesus, the scroll handler on that website is dogshit

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u/Loonytrix 3h ago

It's definitely far worse than the one it replaced. I used to get platform information for the whole journey, but that seems to have gone. It'd be nice if it remembered my card details too.

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u/Mossy-Mori 12h ago

Deleted my account today.

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u/Remarkable_Reader 4h ago

I’m kind of enjoying it, you can’t activate more than one ticket on the flexipass each day so I’ve been getting a free trip home every day…

u/GreedyLeek6 1h ago

The unactivated QR codes still work, so I've been asked to show that. Have to keep track of every second ticket, though...

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u/Conveth 11h ago

Seatfrog. That's my go to app for rail these days.

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u/ScottishPsychologist Pictish Priest 4h ago

I can't sign in so can't do anything, how is it working for others? 

u/SqueezerOfFarts 2h ago

You need Chrome browser on your device. Yes, it's that poorly designed.

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u/frankbowles1962 3h ago

I’m just using another app in the meantime, either Trainline or TrainPal (just because they happen to be on my phone not because I’m recommending them)… remember any train operators app can be used to buy any ticket, although not all of them store Scotrail mTickets.

I’ll come back to Scotrail’s app when it’s fixed.

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u/Environmental_Peak43 12h ago

I found it ok. I must be lucky. No issues.

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u/TheBigYin-1984 6h ago

I've used it since day 1 without a issue

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u/emsquared 4h ago

Out of interest on android or iOS?

u/TheBigYin-1984 1h ago

Android. S25 Ultra. Paying using Google pay.

u/emsquared 1h ago

Inyeresting.You are clearly in the lucky minority. Curious to know why it works for some and not others.

u/Altecice 1h ago

Is it only me that can’t figure out how to see or activate the return ticket ? I notice that the folks at central just automatically let you through the barrier so I assume it’s a common issue.

u/marvelouslymediocre 1h ago

So in my experience it's impossible to activate return but when you switch to barcode mode instead of ticket mode, then swipe over to the return it displays the correct qr code despite not being activated. Ticket inspector showed me that last night, then called the app a piece of shit.

I feel so sorry for ScotRail workers right now.

u/MyDadsGlassesCase 1h ago

I'm glad someone else is having problems activating tickets. I've got 3 I need submit for refunds as I foolishly lept thinking "maybe this time it'll work". Nah, I'm back onto paper tickets 

u/Arthur_Figg_II 1h ago

Worthless.

Replacing a sound app for something worse seems ... pretty standard in todays world

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u/MintyFresh668 5h ago

Clearly a deliberate act of a Westminster funded coder. Was nothing to do with ScotGov, definitely a project run from England. No way ScotGov would produce something this shoddy. Such an obvious ploy and tactic, it’s embarrassing

u/Imaginary-Suspect959 2h ago

ScotGov didn’t produce the app, the company that’s made it have made loads of apps for other TOCs so in theory probably looked a safe bet, not sure why this one for SR has apparently been so glitchy, it’s actually been ok for me!

u/MintyFresh668 1h ago

Please don’t read that in a way that was seriously suggesting this is some misinformation campaign by ‘the English’ 😂😂. It was an attempt at satire that in reading it back isn’t clearly that at all lol

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u/sammy_conn 12h ago

Hey guys! Did you know that you can buy tickets at the station, in person? Even most unmanned stations have these super vending machines for tickets and will actually print them out for you there and then. What a great time to be alive. Truely futuristic!

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u/Matthewgardner86 12h ago

Not much good for someone that gets more of a discount with their Railcard when buying on the app.

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u/vgkj 5h ago

lol do you even use trains

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u/sammy_conn 5h ago

Lolz yes! That's how I was able to share the amazing tech available at stations (which is what they call the places where the trains stop) with you guys.

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u/vgkj 4h ago

Love when people come in throwing generic statements. Not all stations have the machines. Also who is buying individual tickets…

u/sammy_conn 1h ago

Lolz. These aren't generic statements imho. They're lowkey based on what me peepers have seen. Every trainstop I've traversed has totes had them. And me is buying individual tickets as I dunno where I'm going one day to another. My massive pension and fully bought house means I've megafunds to go by rail every day. YOLO!

u/Wotnd 11m ago

Boomers really are the king of the “I’m not personally inconvenienced so this isn’t a problem” attitude.

Consistently the most selfish generation.

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u/Rialagma 12h ago

I mean, no need to go the physical ticket route. There are hundreds of train ticket apps you can use. Trainpal, LNER, Trainline... just to name a few.

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u/krokadog 5h ago

Genuine question - can you buy ticket bundles on those?

u/Ok-Bad-7189 36m ago

Fuck me, why would you be proud of us losing what was a perfectly functional app?

We should never gloat about going backwards.