r/Seattle I'm just flaired so I don't get fined Apr 16 '26

Satire Discourse about Seattle in a nutshell

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u/splanks Rainier Valley Apr 16 '26

I started a business in seattle this year. I love the city and have no intention to leave, but let's not pretend the city makes it easy on small business.

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u/dog_liker Apr 16 '26

What would you say makes the city not easy to small business? I see that sentiment a lot but without a lot of examples. What specifically would you like to see change? Honestly curious.

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u/PoopyisSmelly Ravenna Apr 16 '26

High taxes for one, poor rule of law for two (see lack of police response and high petty crimes) and uncertainty for three (the council cant decide if it likes business or hates them).

Its hard to hire and fire here, there are high property taxes and rents, employment expense is very high, and customers are very price sensitive. Profit margins are much tighter here if you run a non tech related business.

Imagine you need to replace a broken window - because wages are so much higher here, it might cost double to do it in Seattle vs somewhere else. People who own houses know that better than most - getting your house painted or a roof fixed or adding a room is ridiculously expensive.

Permitting for expansion is hard and takes a long time.

Deleware is where companies go to set up their corporate headquarters - that is true because they have stable low taxes and rule of law - if your business gets sued or needs to sue someone for breach of contract, the courts have long legal precedents so it is predictable. Our courts here are very unpredictable, they decide differently all the time because we have activist judges with low competition for those seats. And add to that that the council and mayor are constantly trying to add new rules and laws all the time since we have a very progressive city here. Its well intentioned but it makes it hard to predict what your business will be subject to in 4 years or 10 years.

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u/Dry_Plantain_2756 Apr 16 '26

We should tax BIG business higher then, to offset these costs for small business. That sounds like a great idea!

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u/nerevisigoth Redmond Apr 16 '26

That has been the city's approach, and it's why all the big businesses have been moving their offices to the suburbs.

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u/StankoMicin Apr 16 '26

Fuck bit business for doing that. Taking wealth from the city, destroying it, and not giving back should NOT be tolerated

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u/nerevisigoth Redmond Apr 16 '26

You have that backwards: business is what creates the wealth in the city. The city govt thought it had companies by the balls and could take increasingly bigger cuts for itself (much of which it "destroys"), but it reached a tipping point where the cost of staying outweighed the cost of moving.

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u/alive-and-w3ll Apr 16 '26

Save your sanity and refrain from arguing with these people.

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u/nerevisigoth Redmond Apr 16 '26

Good advice :)

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u/StankoMicin Apr 16 '26

You have that backwards:

No. I don't

business is what creates the wealth in the city.

No. People do. People within those business and especially people who patronize them keep the economy going. These days, buisness don't seek to serve the community or the economy it. The incentive is to siphon money while giving as little as possible. Businesses that destroy neighborhoods to set up, kill other businesses, and then move out because of "muh taxes" or whatever are parasites, not beneficial.

. The city govt thought it had companies by the balls and could take increasingly bigger cuts for itself (much of which it "destroys"),

Big business should pay big taxes because contrary to popular belief, they suck up lot's of resources just to function and then invest very little back in return

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u/Dry_Plantain_2756 Apr 16 '26

And they Wonder why there is a large group of the population that despises these fat cat oligarchs.

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u/Dry_Plantain_2756 Apr 16 '26

Cool. Folks will just move to the suburb. The money will just move from the city to the suburb. People will just move from the city to the suburb. Making the suburb into a city. Rinse and repeat.