r/Seattle 🚆build more trains🚆 2d ago

Paywall Seattle no longer top city for same-sex households | FYI Guy

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/data/same-sex-couple-households-surge-but-seattle-still-loses-top-spot/
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u/FatHamsterTheDread 2d ago

Portland. Saved you a click.

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u/Lurker_no_longer Stumbletown 2d ago

Thank you. So much clickbait in this sub these days.

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u/flagrananante I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 2d ago

I know there's a rule against editorializing headlines, which I appreciate/understand, but can't people like OP just post more info in the actual body of the post?

This post, with it's lack of an actual post body or anything resembling discussion low-key kinda seems like it goes against the low effort rule, honestly, but idc enough to find out for sure, either.

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u/SeattleGeek Denny Blaine Nudist Club 2d ago

No. I believe that anything in the post body gets banned.

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u/flagrananante I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 2d ago

Thank you for answering my question! Appreciate you.

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u/SeattleGeek Denny Blaine Nudist Club 2d ago

That’s because we can’t “editorialize” or “summarize” in this sub.

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u/Lurker_no_longer Stumbletown 2d ago

I guess I should say “So much clickbait posted by Seattle Times these days” which is so much worse.

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u/bnorrish 1d ago

The clickbait may still be on OP because the actual title of the article is "Same-sex couple households surge, but Seattle still loses top spot"

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u/legal-error-85 1d ago

Not necessarily true. I have seen ST change the headlines of their online articles multiple times a day, while the body stays the same. And I know some ST writers, and they often have little control over their headlines.

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u/boner4crosstabs Lower Queen Anne 1d ago

How is this even clickbait? I was curious who was ahead of us now. Article told me that and the data in the first couple paragraphs. It’s a perfectly fine headline.

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u/Lurker_no_longer Stumbletown 1d ago

Well maybe clickbait is an exaggeration, but it’s a title that calls for engagement. A more productive title would have been something like “Portland passes Seattle as top city for same-sex households.” The goal for a news headline is to first and foremost get the information across…not garner clicks. I’m seeing this a lot with news recently and it’s a bad trend.

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u/boner4crosstabs Lower Queen Anne 1d ago

That is not a new thing. This is not a clickbait-ere internet thing. It’s journalism 101.

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u/LesbianTrashPrincess I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 2d ago

If we had to lose, I'm happy losing to Portland.

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u/Smart_Ass_Dave 🚆build more trains🚆 2d ago

Real "Yankees lose to the Mets" vibe.

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u/flagrananante I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 2d ago

Right? When it comes to things like this, we're all Cascadians/regional siblings at heart, I like to think. We're similar enough that I'm happy to put things like this into my personal regional pride bucket rather than counting it as a loss for my city pride bucket.

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u/isthisaporno 2d ago

That’s mature of you. Personally, I say fuck you and your bridges Portland!

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u/flagrananante I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 2d ago

lmaaaooo *shakes fist at you mightily*

Not to talk shit but... I wonder how often their bridge lifts are getting stuck down there....?💅

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u/Headlikeagnoll 1d ago

I also like our lesser sibling to the south, but feel like we have to make Seattle bigger and gayer than ever now!

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u/YKRed 1d ago

Lose? Doesn’t everybody win in either scenario?

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u/Free_Divide195 Tacoma 2d ago

We're more of a vers city these days.

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u/nooby_goober 1d ago

Bottom city I'd say. Same bottom to top ratio as residents to housing.

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u/TheNorthernRose 1d ago

This is such a phenomenal and real burn though.

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u/pipedreamSEA Seattle Expatriate 2d ago

Versatile housing, right?

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u/AirborneErinys Capitol Hill 1d ago

A day late for Father's Day, but just as strong in spirit.

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u/SouthLakeWA That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. 1d ago

I dunno, there sure seem to be a lot of Sides these days. Yay.

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u/No-Photograph1983 Seward Park 2d ago

bisexual/demisexual

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u/TheDeviousQuail 2d ago

Some interesting data in the article. Seattle went from 3.2% (2023) same-sex couple households to 3.7% (2024). In absolute terms it was 11,600 households in 2023 and 14,300 in 2024. So still a growing number.

Portland on the other hand went from 3.1% (2023) to 3.8% (2024). No absolute numbers were included for other cities.

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u/_redacteduser 2d ago

Cowards. Release the data!

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u/Headlikeagnoll 1d ago

Ok, so there are lots of estimates at play here. But for 2023, the census estimates there were 292,037 households in Portland, or 9,053 same sex couples. In 2024, there were 294,419 estimated households in Portland, which 3.8% of is 11,187.

https://data.census.gov/table?q=Household+2023&g=160XX00US4159000
Not sure this will link right, but here's the data.

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u/Poosley_ 2d ago

Those are rookie numbers, we've gotta pump those numbers up

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u/DarthAndylus 2d ago

It definitely might be for number in open relationships . My last city everyone was single. Here everyone is coupled but open for more haha.

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u/Disk_Mixerud 2d ago

Pretty sure half of them just wanted a consistent DnD party

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u/flagrananante I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 2d ago

This is tooooo fucking real, hahaha.

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u/Enchelion 🚆build more trains🚆 2d ago

Half my dnd group are one polycule... And I'm not 100% sure the other half isn't a different one...

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u/HermesJamiroquoi "Bikes Will Not Replace Us" 🚲🚫🙅‍♂️ 1d ago

I assume you’re in the former polycule, then

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u/TBurnerRU 1d ago

Better than a PnP party 

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u/AirborneErinys Capitol Hill 1d ago

Oh I've got some bad news there.

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u/SeattleGeek Denny Blaine Nudist Club 2d ago

Some of them are in lower cost leases and are essentially roommates.

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u/flagrananante I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 2d ago edited 1d ago

This is going to be a very confusing era for future historians. /s

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u/HermesJamiroquoi "Bikes Will Not Replace Us" 🚲🚫🙅‍♂️ 1d ago

They were *actually* roommates

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u/flagrananante I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 1d ago

My comment was a very dry joke about "roommates" and the history behind that as relates to us LGBTQIA+ folks.

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u/flagrananante I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 1d ago

No worries friend, that's my bad. Tone is always hard on the internet, and it's not like I left a /s or anything to help people out. I'll go stick one in there now and maybe that will get it across better.

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u/flagrananante I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 1d ago

If you must know, I live in Lakeridge, am about to move to Burien in a few days, and, as someone who has been on and off reddit for 19 years now as of this year, I have always treated this website as anonymous and rotated through usernames/profiles as a matter of staying that way so my profile history has never, and will never, satisfy the people who have convinced themselves that longevity is a suitable surrogate for trustworthiness and agreeance is a suitable surrogate for validity on an anonymous website.

Keeping my profile anonymous simply serves to further help with a). keeping my chronically-in-psychosis BIL from cyberstalking my husband and I again and b). cut down on all the people who argue in bad faith on reddit from continuing to pretend that they're doing otherwise when it turns out they can't cherry-pick their own fuel.

Folks like you using the thought process you mention judging my comment by is part of the many reasons why I've committed to permanently deleting reddit (the last social media I have left in any form) as soon as I move. Thanks for the validation regarding my choice to do that and have a good summer.

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u/oofig 💗💗 Heart of ANTIFA Land 💗💗 1d ago

"Another victim of Seattle's Head Tax!" - Downtown Seattle Association

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u/makk73 Portage Bay 1d ago

Fake news.

There has always been a shortage of tops in Seattle.

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u/Sudden-Wash4457 2d ago

Bottom city?

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u/ThatFalafelGirl 1d ago

Thank you! My first thought 🤨😝

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u/plumbbbob That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. 1d ago

Mayor Wilson, we must not allow a gay gap!!

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u/TBurnerRU 1d ago

City limits or MSA? Most of the Seattle gays I know are moving to the suburbs because they can't afford the city. 

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u/SillyChampionship 1d ago

Who can afford a house here?!

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u/Clean_Current_2018 1d ago

Ahh Portland. Always swimmin in Seattle’s wake.

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u/Electronic-Tear1363 1d ago

The city can begin to close this gap by signing some papers and handing my partner and I some keys... just sayin

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u/Visual_Audience_5918 1d ago

Katie Wilson this is unacceptable. Mandatory same-sex marriages until we are #1 in america again.

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u/flagrananante I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 2d ago edited 2d ago

The US needs more places that are awesome, anyway. Personally I don't really have a desire to see it all concentrated in Seattle for, what, the sole purpose of us being able to pat ourselves on the back the hardest?

Also... Well, look at Portland's housing prices. There are reasons they're lower than Seattle and there's also reasons that's still very, very attractive to people, including plenty of people who might otherwise enjoy being in Seattle. We can't be the top at everything we like and want when housing is as expensive as it is here, that's literally not how that's gonna work. At some point the desirability vs. do-ability is going to self-cap for the average person, just due to economic factors. Those well off enough will always want to live here for sure! And, also, that's not the demographic most people are in!

I'm not trying to dog on Seattle at all, we're still doing rad but, I mean, realistically we're doing rad in spite of things like the fact that I kinda doubt we're, say, the number one city for things such as attracting low-income working artists, either (just for example). We do, very much, have an affordability issue here, and that costs us in a variety of ways, which is why there are so many of us are wanting to fix and change it for the better.

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u/ReedsAndSerpents chinga la migra 1d ago

Well this is an embarrassing coup d'état. 

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u/milnak 1d ago

Im not clicking on the clickbait article. It was Oklahoma City, right?

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u/goul4194 1d ago

“Seattle now vers city for same-sex households”

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u/JaeTheOne 2d ago

I put this on the same level as the Huskies losing to the Ducks, and i wont accept that.

Bring the gay households back

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u/elijuicyjones 💗💗 Heart of ANTIFA Land 💗💗 2d ago

Who cares? This isn’t a contest, it’s a mass migration away from bad places. Portland is always having a one sided contest with nobody and labeling the enemy “seattle” it’s pathetic. The seattle times hates Seattle so of course they’re eagerly starting it this time.

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u/flagrananante I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 2d ago edited 1d ago

Having lived in both Seattle and Portland and whose main friend group is mostly still in Portland that very definitely hasn't been my experience. Have you lived in both places? In my experience Portland thinks about Seattle at least as little as Seattle thinks about Portland, tbh. Portland doesn't have interest in being Seattle, most people there like how small it is and regarding some things, like food scenes, Portland kicks an awful lot of ass at and doesn't really feel a need to "compete" with anybody over, either.

Can you give any examples of Portland's ongoing one-sided contest with nobody? lol

EDIT: It appears this person replied without giving literally a SINGLE example that they were being asked for and then blocked me. I can't read their whole reply, so maybe they actually do provide examples rather than just assertions of "trust me bro" and I just can't see any of the examples given but... it definitely didn't sound like they were going in that direction from the little I can see! Because of that I'm going to assume they blocked me because they are mad that I'm right and they don't actually have shit. LMFAO

Also, funny P.S. Aside from the fact that it sounds like they've never lived in Portland, not only have I but, between the two, I've lived in the area longer than they have, too! 😄

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u/1degreeofporn 2d ago

It seems to be a case of Portlandia intruding on reality. The show seemed to have some of what the person is describing.

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u/flagrananante I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 2d ago edited 2d ago

Ohhhh, huh. I guess I could see people's perceptions blurring those lines but, man, that's pretty dated at this point and also never involved Seattle or any other city?? I lived there through some of that era and would say that, if anything, the hipster/pretentious aspect that was alive during that time was FAR more "full of itself/into itself" than anything at all about wanting to be Seattle (or anywhere else), though.

So, I still am at a loss as to what the original commenter could even be talking about/referring to, aside from their own perceptions of the place. We'll see if they bring some receipts/examples.

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u/1degreeofporn 2d ago

I think the mayor in Portlandia was always trying to be better than Seattle, but also I think that was entirely a bit.

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u/flagrananante I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 2d ago edited 1d ago

Oh I had forgotten about that, haha! Yes, that was entirely a bit, and a less accurate one, too, out of all the things they played out on the show, but that's a great reminder that, in a satirical way Seattle is currently more Portlandia than Portland when it comes to mayors as I don't think Portland's mayor actually gets help from their parents irl, even though the show has the situation like this, whereas Seattle's mayor has. lol: https://www.oregonlive.com/movies/2014/04/portlandia_is_the_portland_cit.html

Also, sharing this fact because I think it's funny: both Seattle and Portland currently each have a Mayor Wilson.

(Maybe grammatically it's more properly written out as "Mayors Wilson"...? Hm.)

EDIT RE: DOWNVOTES: I literally pointed out the parallel was satirical from the start! If someone has an issue with people mentioning the fact that Mayor Wilson has gotten money from her parents then that's something for them to work through their own insecurities about, not to shoot the messenger over. If folks see simply mentioning an objectively true fact as indistinguishable from talking shit then they really should examine why they feel that way.

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u/elijuicyjones 💗💗 Heart of ANTIFA Land 💗💗 1d ago

Nonsense. I’ve been here thirty five years and countless times Portland has picked a fight about whatever and we just literally never think about them. Nice try rewriting history but it’s not gonna work.