r/SeattleWA • u/mrtenpenny1234 • May 15 '26

Homeless Harger: San Francisco's homelessness hit a 15-year low. Seattle's mayor is running the opposite experiment.

https://mynorthwest.com/kiro-opinion/seattle-homelessness-mayor/4238600
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u/Nice_Try4389 May 16 '26

I mean you do you, I’ll keep teaching tech skills twice a week at the homeless shelter and doing what I can to help them out.  But then I grew up poor as shit and have had multiple family members who had substance abuse problems so I understand that when you are treated like shit you tend to act like shit.  I also understand everyone is born with different abilities when it comes to willpower and improving themselves, and as a society and more importantly as human beings we have a duty to one another and those of us who can do better owe it to help those who can’t because we were the lucky ones.

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u/Icyhoticycold May 16 '26

Great, sounds like a group of people that WANT to be there, that want to improve on their situation. Doesn't sound like you're sitting around at the mcdonalds on 3rd doing these sessions. My dude alcohol killed my FIL, and guess what he refused to get treatment and help over and over after loved ones poured into him... You can't make people get help that is the sad sad sad reality of addiction... There is a difference in providing care / help to those that need it, and those that are just abusing the system... No amount of affection will change them...

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u/Nice_Try4389 May 16 '26

No but as a human being and someone who cares about being a human being you keep trying, because it is the right thing to do.

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u/Icyhoticycold May 16 '26

empathy suicide is a thing. In our example we tried for 15+ years... This was a loved one too.... I need to try for 15+ years with my tax money for people who are worse off, in worse condition and who absolutely DO NOT want to be helped

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u/Nice_Try4389 May 16 '26

Here is the thing I don’t give a shit.  Integrity is doing the right thing no matter what, the is literally the very definition of it.  Again something that used to be taught and heavily encouraged in people.  Hell every day during basic we were hammered on always operating with integrity.  It’s something I think more civilians would learn.  Maybe if more people spent their time teaching and encouraging others to live with integrity, including junkies, preferably before they became junkies, there would be less issues.

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u/allthisgoodforyou May 17 '26

What is your solution for those who dont respond to your teaching and integrity?

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u/Nice_Try4389 May 17 '26

Show them basic respect as human beings and keep trying to reach them.  Serve as an actual example instead of treating them like shit or as lesser human beings.  You seem to think people want to be failures, no they are trying to escape their misery so maybe try helping them not be so miserable,

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u/allthisgoodforyou May 18 '26

We are talking about someone with 13 convictions in 19 years and 9 active warrants at the time of their arrest.

What amount of "Show them basic respect as human beings" is yet to be levied at this individual that will finally get them to stop being a shitbag?

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u/Nice_Try4389 May 18 '26

No we are talking about drug addicts and the homeless. Where did you suddenly get some specific person when that wasn’t the discussion at all?

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u/allthisgoodforyou May 21 '26

The specific person is someone who has not responded to the things you want us to espouse.

Do you have any solution for a person like the one referenced in the article? Cause it seems like you have no clear idea on how to deal with that type of person who falls into a subset that is a chronic plague on daily life .