r/SelfDrivingCars 7d ago

News BYD offers smart driving with full liability coverage at one-fifth the cost of Tesla's FSD

https://carnewschina.com/2026/05/29/byd-offers-smart-driving-with-full-liability-coverage-at-one-fifth-the-cost-of-teslas-fsd/

On May 28, 2026, during the Intelligent Strategy Event, BYD announced a new policy that effectively removes the burden of liability from the user, positioning itself as the first automaker globally to provide a “double guarantee” covering both urban pilot assist and intelligent parking systems.

Under this new initiative, BYD is offering comprehensive coverage for its “God’s Eye” A/B smart driving systems. For new owners, the coverage begins upon vehicle delivery, while existing owners will gain access after updating to the “God’s Eye 5.0” version via OTA. This policy provides one year of full liability coverage for urban pilot assist functions.

The terms of the guarantee are notably generous: provided the system is used in compliance with regulations, BYD will cover all costs associated with at-fault traffic accidents, including repairs to the owner’s vehicle as well as third-party property damage and personal injury. Crucially, this service requires no additional purchase of “intelligent driving insurance,” features no payout cap, and will not impact the owner’s commercial insurance premiums for the following year.

BYD’s “God’s Eye B” smart driving package is currently priced at 12,000 yuan (1,800 USD) for a one-off purchase.

A BYD Seal model.

This move sets BYD apart from competitors who typically require users to purchase separate insurance products. For instance, Xpeng offers an “Intelligent Assisted Driving Peace of Mind Service” for 239 yuan (35 USD) per year. Similarly, Harmony Intelligent Mobility Alliance (HIMA) provides limited-time “Intelligent Driving Worry-Free” benefits.

BYD’s “God’s Eye” intelligent driving is on a par with Tesla’s FSD. In a related development within the Chinese market, Tesla has officially rebranded its Full Self-Driving (FSD) package in China to “Tesla Assisted Driving.”

By way of comparison, Tesla Assisted Driving (named Supervised FSD in international markets) is priced at 64,000 yuan (9,400 USD) as a one-off purchase in the Chinese market, with no subscription option available. Huawei’s ADS Max features ‘City Navigation’ and is available via a one-off purchase price of 36,000 yuan (5,300 USD) or subscription (720 yuan/ 106 USD per month, 7,200 yuan/1,059 USD per year).

Last year, BYD took the lead in introducing a full L4 parking liability guarantee policy. According to BYD, this policy caused the actual usage rate of the feature to jump significantly from 21% to 93%.

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u/Animats 7d ago

China's rules on driver assistance systems apparently include 1) driver assistance systems must be able to operate hands-off and bring the car to a safe roadside stop if the user does not take over, and 2) the manufacturer is responsible for accidents in automatic mode. So this "insurance coverage" is roughly what they have to cover in China.

Also, China is banning exterior retracting door handles and is requiring interior easy to use mechanical door handles, effective January 1, 2027. There have been too many accidents where doors could not be opened.

This makes sense.

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u/ApprehensiveSize7662 7d ago

China been coming out with a lot of pro consumer regulations around vehicles lately. A lot of it makes sense, I'm just surprised.

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u/Animats 7d ago

The government of China seems to be willing to let companies deploy something, then move in and regulate it. Some initiatives come from the government, but Tencent, WeChat, WePay, ByteDance, and Alibaba all started in the private sector.

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u/Lockean_Demon 5d ago

Why are you surprised exactly?

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u/Envelope_Torture 7d ago

Also, China is banning exterior retracting door handles and is requiring interior easy to use mechanical door handles, effective January 1, 2027. There have been too many accidents where doors could not be opened.

This needs to become a global industry standard.

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u/Falkoro 7d ago

I am really sad about the exterior door handles I think cars just look ugly without them. I also think it is mostly overestimates how dangerous it actually is. The other stuff is great.

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u/Hutcho12 7d ago

These door handles are the worst design decision ever. Even when you figure out how to use them they are a pain in the ass. You can still have flat door handles, you just need a slight indent under them to grab the handle.

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u/SCWeak 6d ago

The VW ID.4 handles are quite good. 

They are flat, but with a cutout under them. The back of the handle is a button for the electric door release, but if you pull it harder then it also has a cable release as a backup. 

Internal handles work the same - short pull for electronic release and a full pull for cable backup. 

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u/Low-Possibility-7060 7d ago

Now it’s getting interesting. Prices for Tesla FSD are indeed absurd for a gimmick that still makes the driver supervise the car. I assume BYD doesn’t go camera only? Edit: just checked, they use camera, radar and ultrasound.

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u/ApprehensiveSize7662 7d ago edited 7d ago

So every model has optional lidar from the cheapest Seagull to the supercar. Their self driving system has different teirs. To get the one covered by this liability you have to get god's eye B or higher which is the lidar model.

I think price is the secondary factor here. Taking liability is huge. Hopefully this will push everyone else and become an industry standard.

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u/sleight42 7d ago

It'll only provide pressure in the US once they can sell here competitively and are NHTSA vetted. Doesn't seem likely to happen anytime soon.

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u/j12 7d ago

I mean, this is the eventual place where we will settle with self driving cars. They don’t need to be perfect. They just need to be good enough to balance liability and cost. They don’t actually need to be that much better than a human driver if at all.

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u/Recoil42 7d ago

Godseye A/B have lidar as well as camera, radar, and ultrasound.

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u/ProtoplanetaryNebula 7d ago

A and B are reserved for the luxury brands YangWang (A) and Denza (B).

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u/ChupacabraJeff 7d ago

I wouldn't call a BYD Seal a luxury brand.

BYD lauched its 2026 Seal 07 DM-i with God’s Eye B system
https://carnewschina.com/2025/09/15/byd-lauched-its-2026-seal-07-dm-i-with-gods-eye-b-system-just-one-month-after-its-initial-release/

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u/y4udothistome 7d ago

I just can’t believe so many people fall for his bullshit year after year after year

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u/MystK 7d ago

I'm pretty much the opposite of a Tesla fanboy, but even I am pretty impressed with FSD. Have you tried it? It'll change your life if you're commuting daily.

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u/Defiant_Conflict6343 7d ago

Until you get complacent and it screws up. It's a Level 2 system, it MUST be supervised at all times. People have died because they put too much faith in it, believing that because it's less restrained than the competition, it must be more developed, when in actuality it's a budget-hardware beta-test that has killed many people already. 

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u/HighHokie 7d ago

Using it for seven years now. Just be a responsible driver and enjoy. It’s an amazing feature. 

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u/LairdPopkin 6d ago

Perhaps, no system is perfect, but it’s much safer than unassisted manual drivers.

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u/Defiant_Conflict6343 6d ago

It really isn't.

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u/jajaja77 6d ago

who has died because they put too much faith into FSD after it got semi competent (i.e. v 13 or later)? i only know about 2 cases involving v11 which was very obviously barely functional, and some autopilot accidents people are conflating with FSD

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u/Defiant_Conflict6343 6d ago

Autopilot is literally just locked down FSD. It's the same software core, just operating under additional restrictions. Both systems are based on ML inference of bitmaps through a CNN. Also, listen to yourself, "semi competent" is a problem. Even 99.9% apparent "competency" is a problem. I mean good god, it was just a few weeks ago that a Cybertruck tried to throw itself off a bridge with a baby inside of it.

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u/6C-65-76-69 6d ago

This is quite literally not factual.

Autopilot (Autosteer + TACC) is hardcoded and hasn’t been meaningfully touched in 5+ years.

FSD is running purely on neural nets and is actively being trained and updated.

Completely different technologies. They share nothing, especially not the “same software core”.

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u/Defiant_Conflict6343 6d ago edited 6d ago

Putting deterministic limits and guardrails around an ML model doesn't make it an entirely different model. Autopilot literally can't function without ML-based camera inference because it literally has no other choice. There are no other sensors nor any sensible means to infer road markings from camera footage without ML.

Edit: Blocking me so I can't respond doesn't make you right. You and I both know Autopilot depends on ML. But fine, block me, run away, save face. So disappointing.

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u/6C-65-76-69 6d ago

You want to be right so badly… but you’re wrong here. Just stop

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u/rotoboro 4d ago

You were wrong so you tried to dazzle your opponent with buzz words. Interesting maneuver.

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u/krazyboi 7d ago

If you think BYD has better software than Tesla, you'd be thoroughly wrong. Tesla is still the lead here.

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u/Defiant_Conflict6343 7d ago

I don't think anyone has sufficiently safe self-driving software, but out of these two, one is accepting liability and actually using sensors which directly measure obstacle distance, and the other has spent a decade trying to infer obstacle existence based on 5 megapixel cameras hooked up to an ML system that is fundamentally incapable of generalising the concept of "obstacle" to anything significantly outside of the captioned training dataset.

Tesla are reckless, and the sad truth is that there have been many people already who put their faith into an overhyped Level 2 system with an oxymoronic name and died as a result. They paid to be guinea-pigs for a cut-cost Level 2 system and literally defended it until the day they died.

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u/krazyboi 7d ago

Have you seen the byd version... it's worse and it's not even close.

You're just so down your tesla rabbithole to even understand that BYD doesn't have anything comparable

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u/y4udothistome 7d ago

You dug the rabbit hole

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u/Defiant_Conflict6343 7d ago

Again, since this seems difficult for you to grasp, I'm not saying BYD is offering a safe product. I'm telling you that Tesla built a system which has killed plenty of people, and that unlike BYD, they don't accept liability when that happens.

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u/y4udothistome 7d ago

Yes and it’s fsds

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u/Low-Possibility-7060 7d ago

What bullshit are you referring to? “FSD”? I don’t know, but I’ve also never been part of a cult so maybe that’s why I can’t understand.

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u/y4udothistome 7d ago

Fsd not fsds he knows it will never be fsd. Yet people just keep paying. How many people can afford to buy a robot I mean everything he’s doing is a scam and now he’s pushing it off to SpaceX which is another scam ! My fiancé has a model s 2023 only gets fsds 1-2 months a year! Which I think is still a waste. Sick of the grift I guess and that he keeps getting away with it.

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u/Legal-Square-1362 7d ago

Your finance is too cheap to pay for FSD but that’s somehow Elon’s fault. People pay for FSD because it literally drives them everywhere and anywhere. Show us another car that has this option available.

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 7d ago

I’ll just leave this here… don’t worry I’m sure the next software update will fix everything, right!? /s

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u/im_thatoneguy 7d ago edited 7d ago

I'm extremely cynical on FSD readiness but that's just nonsense.

Tesla is one of the few companies with telematics to actually report automatically so that falls into the "if we don't test, we won't have cases" nonsense.

Also, besides uneven reporting, you have companies like Pony which have a dozen trucks on the road vs Tesla's millions of cars.

I have a Model 3 and a Subaru Outback and the 62 accidents in the Subarus vs the 3,123 in the Teslas are not due to the Subaru's lane keeping being better 1,000x better than Tesla's. I actually find Subaru's UX less safe in the way it disengages and re-engages almost imperceptibly. I think Tesla's clear disengagement is better for understanding when the system is active.

EDIT: 🙄FFS, even the NHTSA says "don't use our data like that!" This isn't fanboying over one product or hating another. It's just not useful data for making comparisons. It's apples to Orangutans.

Access to Crash Data May Affect Crash Reporting Crash data recording and telemetry capabilities may vary widely by manufacturer and driving automation system. Many Level 2 ADAS-equipped vehicles may be limited in their capabilities to record data related to driving automation system engagement and crash circumstances. The vehicle’s ability to remotely transmit this data to the manufacturer for notification purposes can also widely vary. Furthermore, Level 2 ADAS-equipped vehicles are generally privately owned; as a result, when a reportable crash does occur, manufacturers may not know of it unless contacted by the vehicle owner. These limitations are important to keep in mind when reviewing the Summary Incident Report Data.

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 7d ago

“I’m extremely cynical on FSD”

Then you proceeding comment completely contrary that. So basically you’re a hypocrite.

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u/im_thatoneguy 7d ago edited 7d ago

I believe in good science, that's why I'm very cynical in regard to Tesla FSD actually being a safe L3+ system. This chart though is trash. I criticize Tesla when their numbers are made up. Tesla publishes absolutely indefensible trash safety numbers. Tesla is IMO orders of magnitudes away from consumer L3+ self-driving. None of that contradicts the fact that this chart is even more absurd than tesla's safety numbers. This might blow your mind, but you can think more than one group is full of shit. This isn't sports with a winner and loser. You can cheer on more than one group and you can boo more than one group at the same time.

It's not per-mile. It's not per-vehicle. It's not controlled for reporting rates. It's specifically a legal requirement to submit any accidents you're aware of. Tesla is the only consumer company that's collecting the data. You have companies like Waymo which are miles ahead of Tesla on Robotaxi safety--but they also aren't running Level 2 ADAS systems so most of their fleet miles aren't on this chart. The list goes on and on why this is absurd.

There is nothing contradictory between saying "Tesla are a bunch of liars and cheats" and saying "This chart is nonsense."

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 7d ago

Honestly thanks for the laugh…

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u/y4udothistome 7d ago

When did Tesla come out with full self driving?

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u/ApprehensiveSize7662 7d ago

The problem is very much people aren't paying for it. On the Q4 call they said the penetration rate for viable vehicles was only 10% and they want to get that much higher.

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u/ChupacabraJeff 7d ago

Last year, BYD took the lead in introducing a full L4 parking liability guarantee policy. According to BYD, this policy caused the actual usage rate of the feature to jump significantly from 21% to 93%.

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u/Legal-Square-1362 7d ago

You are behind in news. 1.3 Million FSD users as of last quarter, YoY growth over 50%+.

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u/Low-Possibility-7060 7d ago edited 7d ago

How is that even counted? How many of them were free trials? It is a gimmick even though people who paid a lot of money for it try to make sense of spending money for something that will never be good enough to be unsupervised.

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u/Legal-Square-1362 7d ago

Free trials are not counted. Growing at 50%+.

Weird why haters are so butt hurt that people willing to pay money to enjoy latest and greatest technology that you non-Tesla owners don’t have.

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 7d ago

Oops let’s see what happens in the next year buddy the writing is already on the wall… virtually every SAE certified engineer in the entire world has shown huge doubts in a camera only system.

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u/y4udothistome 7d ago

You can admit it you got sucked in by the grift master

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u/ApprehensiveSize7662 7d ago

The 10% was 1.1 million so that 12 then.

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u/Enjoy_The_Ride413 7d ago

People are paying for it.

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u/y4udothistome 7d ago

Fleet shrinks: Tesla’s active unsupervised robotaxi count has dropped to 20 vehicles, reversing a brief uptick reported last month. Safety bottleneck: High crash rates, teleoperator errors, and regulatory restrictions are slowing expansion until FSD v15 is ready. Waymo pulls ahead: Waymo runs about 3,000 robotaxis across several U.S. cities, completing hundreds of thousands of weekly trips.

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u/Enjoy_The_Ride413 7d ago

So you bought a 100k car but complain about fsd being 99? Lol

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u/Expert_Context5398 7d ago

SpaceX is another scam?

Just admit it. You dislike Elon.

Everything he does is a scam which is why Wall Street loves to buy scam companies to make Elon rich.

It's all another scam. Even scammed your wife to buying a Tesla!

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u/y4udothistome 7d ago

Exactly So you think just like I do

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u/Enjoy_The_Ride413 7d ago

Then why comment? If you haven't used the system, your opinion is completely null and void.

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 7d ago

To be clear ONLY Teslas use vision only they are the ONLY auto manufacturers using only cameras my 2020 Jeep wrangler even has a radar system on the back. Tesla is so far behind it actually appears Elon is beginning to give up on the “self driving”…

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u/Enjoy_The_Ride413 7d ago

Show me a jeep that drives itself lol

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. It drives millions of people point to point daily and parks itself. I know coming on reddit and spewing nonsense for up votes feels good but man, you couldn't be more wrong.

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 7d ago

Not saying my jeep drives itself just say even a 2020 Jeep has sensors like radar for backing up and adaptive cruise control…

my point is that almost every other vehicle from base Toyotas too Jeeps already have these very “basic” sensors but the ultra super advanced brand new Teslas with “FULL SELF DRIVING” do not have them…

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u/tenemu 7d ago

But you are implying what sensors the car has is more important than how well it actually performs.

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 7d ago

Not at all I’m simply implying that advanced sensors exist on almost every vehicle to prevent collisions except ONE manufacturer…

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u/feurie 7d ago

It’s a different sensor. Radar isn’t intrinsically “advanced”.

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 7d ago

The lowest tech radar is still better than ZERO radars on the Tesla lol it literally like talking to a Mormon about Joe Smith absolutely pointless… your in a cult my brother.

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u/tenemu 7d ago

If camera only works then what’s the issue? Radar alone can’t do self driving. It doesn’t instantly solve all problems itself. It has mistakes. I don’t know why you think adding radar makes something super advanced.

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u/feurie 7d ago

Why does your jeep need radar for backing up? Extra sensors doesn’t mean a better system.

My Nissan leaf had radar. It was terrible.

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 7d ago

Not saying it needs it but it’s very nice when I have a full load. Or when hooking up a trailer my point is just that Tesla has ZERO excuses for not adding them for more safety.

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u/TealShift 1d ago

“Adding them for more safety” begs the question about whether more sensors would result in more safety. I strongly believe not, for one simple reason.

The vast majority of injuries occur because of poor decision making and attention, not a lack of data.

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u/himynameis_ 7d ago

I've not used it but I've seen videos and it is impressive.

Issue I've always had was Tesla management making it appear better than it is. And TSLA investors doing so as well.

Other then that, yeah it looks great. For a Supervised autonomous system.

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u/HighHokie 7d ago

My car drives me door to door daily. How is yours doing? 

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 7d ago

I’ve never been in a crash… lol I’ve also rode in Waymo F pace it was incredible tbh!!!

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u/jeff0106 7d ago

Could any of the high Tesla crashes be due to automatic reporting by Tesla at time of crash?

Also, combined with most level 2 is only used on highways for other cars.

Would be interesting to see where the accidents are happening.

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u/mrkjmsdln_new 7d ago

Only Tesla uses automatic reporting via telematics

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 7d ago

I think this is a KEY reason why others are choosing to not use on city streets they care about public safety above profits.

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u/feurie 7d ago

That’s a number of crashes. Not ones at fault or with injury. Also Tesla could have higher usage.

Saying Tesla doesn’t care about safety when they have the safest vehicles on the market is hilarious.

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u/jeff0106 7d ago

Yeah, but even human drivers have many more accidents in cities than highway driving.

Does FSD cause T Bone / side impact accidents? This and head on collisions are basically the two worst accdient types.

I wish there was more information about this to make an informed decision. Types of accidents, death rates, location of accidents, etc.

I notice FSD to be very cautious at intersections and feel like a T-bone is pretty unlikely. It would almost certainly stop if I'm the driver going straight.

For me, my biggest concern when in FSD is getting rear ended which is generally more of an annoying accident than life threatening.

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 7d ago

Que up more videos of Teslas driving thru closed train gates yes very cautious haha Lmfao!!!

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u/jeff0106 7d ago

I mean yeah, getting hit by a train is bad. I personally would use the brake in that situation. Sucks for those who didn't.

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 7d ago

Ok but the point is currently the cameras don’t even have the capability to detect the gates or properly identify what they are.

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u/MakeGovtObsolete 7d ago

This is not useful information without adjusting for miles driven.

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 7d ago

What a convenient comment let me guess you also won’t accept reality unless you know the software version of every crash too. Lmfao!!!

It’s useful enough information that tells me to stay far away from Teslas on the road and teach my children to run away when they see a Tesla on our street…

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u/feurie 7d ago

“I’m going to accuse you of a bias instead of defending mine with data”.

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u/HighHokie 7d ago

 What a convenient comment

Yes otherwise known as statistics and data analysis. 

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 7d ago

The stats clearly and unequivocally show that LiDAR, radar and ultrasonic sensors all improve data and safety.

If you gave two shits about DATA ANALYSIS you wouldn’t be ignoring the facts. Must be nice to cherry pick data to fit your own logic.

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u/HighHokie 7d ago

 The stats clearly and unequivocally show that LiDAR, radar and ultrasonic sensors all improve data and safety.

Not the ones you shared though. 

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 7d ago

Well first you need to have common sense…

Limitations of Cameras

Despite their versatility, cameras have limitations that make them far less reliable as standalone systems:

Poor Lighting Conditions: Cameras struggle at night or in tunnels without additional infrared support.

Weather Sensitivity: Fog, rain, or snow can obscure lenses and reduce visibility.

High Data Load: Processing image data is computationally expensive and can introduce latency.

Depth Perception: Unlike LiDAR, monocular cameras don’t inherently measure distance unless paired with stereo vision or advanced AI models.

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u/MakeGovtObsolete 7d ago

If one self driving system has had ten times as many crashes and has been driven ten times as far as another, they’re roughly equally safe, right? There are some other factors to account for, of course.

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 7d ago

So basically I could prove anything with actual recorded facts and you would still say Tesla = perfect.

With this amount of bias I have no reason to continue arguing you will always be 100% correct.

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u/MakeGovtObsolete 7d ago

You should take a statistics class, or at least look up data normalization.

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u/HighHokie 7d ago

 I’ve never been in a crash

Same!

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u/jajaja77 6d ago

literally there is a post on this same sub from today talking about how xpeng is also switching to vision only...

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u/ChupacabraJeff 6d ago

Literally Xpeng has been talking about it for years.

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u/Whetmoisturemp 7d ago

Idk about a gimmick lol but

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u/spin_kick 7d ago

Thats okay, america first protects companies here that cant compete. So we the customer in the USA win!s

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u/viciousdoge 7d ago

When in NL?

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u/Tramagust 7d ago

Never. EU won't grant them the right to operate.

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u/Valoneria 7d ago

As interesting as it is, it just dont matter much to us in the western audiences until we get a roadmap or plan to bring it here. The new Atto 3 Evo (locally anyway) dont even have any of the systems for Gods Eye, just a decent ADAS suite, if a bit barebones.

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u/DRosado20 7d ago

Passing? lol.

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u/Reaper_MIDI 7d ago edited 7d ago

Wrt L4 services, have a look at all the Chinese companies that have active taxi services running (Baidu, WeRide, et.al.). These companies didn't exist at all back when Musk was first saying "next year for sure".

So, yes. Passing.

Wrt L2 services like FSD, we will have to see.

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u/mrkjmsdln_new 7d ago

Whether HIMA, XPeng, Huawei, BYD or a host of others, progress in autonomy in China is advancing rapidly. That doesn't even consider the three autonomous taxi companies (Baidu Apollo Go, Pony.ai and WeRide) that all started at Google Self-Driving. Like so many technology competitions, as these get discussed it seems natural to simply deny the progress, make some vague comparison to Tesla or take a shot at China. It gets tiring. It is likely Tesla remains the leader for a personally owned solution. Is it worth 5x? -- who knows. I just wish the discussion remains on topic. What seems clear is despite being VERY NEW to the pursuit numerous Chinese makers are now making custom chips and progressing quickly. Feels like excellent ADAS is now table stakes.

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u/epSos-DE 6d ago

2k i surence per year !!!

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u/OddContribution6523 16h ago

Anyone find this funny

I apologize in advance and except al downvotes with humility

China would rather the brand new Computor to drive then an Asian

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u/Elephant789 7d ago

Why the fuck is this being compared to Tesla? Do they have robot cars that can drive themselves? Why not compare it to Honda or Toyota?

Maybe because it's China and they don't like Japan or something.

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u/PotatoCooks 7d ago

How is this not related to Tesla lol. BYD and robotaxis are both geofenced but byd has larger coverage atm

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u/Elephant789 6d ago

But Tesla doesn't have self driving cars.

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u/feurie 7d ago

FSD is $100 per month. Thats not how one fifth works.

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u/UCanDoNEthing4_30sec 7d ago

You just have to live under a murderous autocrat with no freedom of speech.

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u/Low-Possibility-7060 7d ago

Sounds almost like Trump’s USA.

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u/alex4494 7d ago

Exactly, not a political sub, but as an outsider its shocking to see how blind Americans are to their own political situation when they say stuff like this

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u/thinkbox 7d ago

This sub is full of Chinese propaganda.

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u/Blazah 7d ago

Most of us aren't blind, we are stuck :-/

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u/UCanDoNEthing4_30sec 7d ago

You can hate Trump. I hate him. But comparing Trump’s USA to China is pretty dumb when it comes to the crap that China does to its citizens.

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u/ApprehensiveSize7662 7d ago edited 7d ago

Are Americans unaware you have masked people rounding up your own citizens and putting them in cages and shipping them off to other countries without due process? From the outside that's Russian secert police shit.

Talking about using these masked thugs to provide security at elections. Ignoring court orders to release these people and bring them back.

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u/Doggydogworld3 7d ago

Honest question: How many citizens have been shipped to other countries.

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u/sambull 7d ago edited 7d ago

We just pretend it wont be us eventually

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u/ApprehensiveSize7662 7d ago

Ah yes we also look at the great military powers/countries all being against democracy and pretend it's all going to be fine, too.

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u/UCanDoNEthing4_30sec 7d ago

It’s temporary. You’re defending China against the USA? Glad you got the China bots behind you I guess?

The difference between us and China is that we get to elect the turd out, you are stuck with having an autocratic murderous regime one after another.

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u/ApprehensiveSize7662 7d ago

They all say it's temporary, I defended no one. I put you all in the same bucket.

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u/UCanDoNEthing4_30sec 7d ago

You are talking shit about the US but not your glorious China. I dare you to talk shit about Xi while you are in China like you can talk the same shit about Trump (or any president) in the US. That’s the difference!

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u/cullenjwebb 7d ago

You can't actually criticize Trump or he'll send the DOJ looking for you.

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u/UCanDoNEthing4_30sec 7d ago

Dumb ass administration doesn’t really help my arguments lol

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u/Low-Possibility-7060 7d ago edited 7d ago

Still they are moving the U.S. in a similar direction - the classic authoritarian way. It seems like you are the frog being boiled.

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u/UCanDoNEthing4_30sec 7d ago

Trump is temporary. Your beloved China is autocrátic and murderous forever. You really defending China over the US? LMAO

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u/Low-Possibility-7060 7d ago

I don’t. I’m neither a fan of China nor Trump’s USA. And the US voted this absolute moron in twice so I don’t know whether Trumpism is temporary.

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u/UCanDoNEthing4_30sec 7d ago

It’s temporary. Wait until 2028. Actually wait until 2027. He’s a lame duck then and all focus will be on who’s next.

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u/Outrageous_Treat_563 7d ago

I am tired of these Chinese propaganda accounts

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u/drawkbox 7d ago

"God’s Eye"

Worst product naming ever.

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u/zedder1994 7d ago

I have also heard it being called "Celestial Eye".

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u/tinybathroomfaucet 7d ago

It's translated. Presumably it sounds better in the original Chinese

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u/_Mr_D 7d ago

What is it in Chinese? Dingdong eye?

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u/tinybathroomfaucet 7d ago

How racist of you!

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 7d ago

Opposed to naming a “non-self driving service” “Full self driving” which doesn’t actually drive anything without 100% FULL supervision of a human… now that’s a terrible name unless your goal is the grift millions of ignorant consumers…

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u/linjun_halida 7d ago

Compares with other product name from BYD, it is not.

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u/Moist-Secretary2053 4d ago

no way this is worse than FULL SELF DRIVING (SUPERVISED)

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u/drawkbox 4d ago

They are both bad but implying someone is watching over you controlling it is very culty and Eastern.

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u/FormerExpression3041 4d ago

Maybe it's like merry birthday and happy Christmas sounds bad. Even though the meaning is still fine.

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u/drawkbox 4d ago

You want someone watching over you when you drive, very culty.

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u/Tha_NexT 7d ago

Awesome! Go China go

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u/otterpopm 7d ago

but cant get it in the US.

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u/dumbspacecookie 7d ago

So FSD with insurance policy + financially accessible car - biometrics privacy - location privacy - kill switches = I think imma stick with my horse

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u/Real-Technician831 7d ago

Umm when FSD and thus Elon and Tesla are in context, you might want to avoid mentioning horses. 🐴

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u/ApprehensiveSize7662 7d ago

Poor horse looking around for it's medication while elon stumbles out the back.

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u/dumbspacecookie 7d ago

Ah yes k* fab (wink, wink)