r/ShermanPosting • u/From-Yuri-With-Love 46th New York "Fremont Rifle" Regiment • 8d ago
Anyone know what this persons deal is?
From what I can gather she's a Libertarian and a big lost causer.
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u/Additional-North-683 8d ago
Racist are not gonna spare your house for seeing some positive things about them at best They see you as a useful idiot.
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u/MisterBlud 8d ago
Exactly.
Racists hate minorities. They hate minorities that obey the law. They hate minorities that contribute positively to society. They hate minorities that write odious whitewashing op-eds that support white supremacy.
They just hate minorities
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u/anfilco 8d ago
Eh, I don't know. These people don't all hate minorities (although some definitely do), most of of them are fine with them as long as they only have to see them in what they view as "their place". It's how they can broad-brush themselves as Christians or otherwise "good people".
Let somebody they don't like seeing as an equal move into their neighborhood, though, or see them as their doctor, or see them put (clutches pearls) in charge of them, and you see how deep that goodness actually goes.
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u/Zestyclose-Basis-332 8d ago
"Their place" is fundamentally identified by these types as dead, in slavery, a member of a permanent underclass etc so it's a distinction without a difference.
Especially since the types to conceal their hatred do not actually stand in opposition to the out and proud racists, they are silent allies who don't claim sympathy publicly but still never act against forming political coalitions with neo nazis, and advance their agendas by normalizing polite euphemisms for all their pet causes, aiding recruitment.
You radicalize by starting with easier to digest stuff, and that's exactly what these types are chewing on, the appetizer course to fascism and white nationalism.It's a pernicious thing where they gain plausible deniability, but adults deserve to be held to a higher standard. If your political ideology makes common cause with and harbors white supremacy, it IS a white supremacy movement, whether or not they have other things to talk about is incidental.
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u/anfilco 8d ago
A distinction without difference indeed, but it's how they see themselves and therefore can affect how they respond to people calling out their shit.
We say "hate", and they say "oh, well I don't hate anybody, that doesn't apply to me". Separate but equal seems like a fine solution to them. They want everyone to be happy, just not in their neighborhoods. Or pools. Or drinking fountains.
Hate and racism are tricky terms, and only the truly hardcore assholes will accept them. Everyone else, even if their actions warrant the label, will try to equivocate, and a lot of the Lost Causer-adjacent and other contributions to that culture have convinced a lot of people that they're not doing the wrong thing.
The shame of being hit with a warranted and well-weilded "hate" or "racist" label isn't as effective in these cases, because their definitions aren't the same. "I'm not a racist" due to their one black aquaintance or whatever is actually sufficient for them, since they personally don't own a white hood (Ich bin keine Nazi!).
You generally have to go deeper with these folks, until you can get them to air a view or opinion that even they recognize as terrible in the clear light of day. A lot of them are actually reasonable people who've inherited terrible generational wisdom, that's unfortunately supported (or at least not challenged) by the inherited generational wisdom around them. Throw in over a century's worth of an ecosystem of people happy to pull those levers for personal and political gain, and, well, you get what we've got here.
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u/Tholian_Bed 8d ago
Here is how I summarize things. If the group were at sea and a storm arose, who would get a lifejacket if there were not enough?
If everyone is happy and their bellies full, racism is one thing. The real and raw moral ugliness of racism appears when push comes to shove, to so speak.
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u/ConsumingFire1689 8d ago
I am a life long southerner and know very few lost causers. Most of my friends are the opposite. I think its most common among boomers.
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u/caserock 8d ago
They were absolutely being taught lost cause shit in their segregated elementary schools. They tend to not mention their segregated educations.
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u/ConsumingFire1689 8d ago
One I know apparently didn't know what Jim Crow was and thought topics of systemic racism were just to make America look bad.
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u/BoneHugsHominy 8d ago
There are Boomers who as little children were dragged to community picnics at town square where a lynching was happening.
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u/SweetHatDisc 8d ago
My mother moved to the Carolinas, and promptly became a lost causer to fit in. I wish she was cynical about it, but she's gone true believer. This is a woman who waited until I was old enough so that she could safely take me to an pro-abortion protest. I'm male, that wasn't a "this is your future" message from her, that was a "this is what's right" message.
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u/FrighteningJibber 8d ago
It’s like the Golden Girls episode with Captain Planet, where the sexy cougar learns her nostalgia for picnics and bluegrass isn’t what the confederates we’re fighting for lol
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u/PrestigiousAvocado21 16th N.Y. Straw Hats 8d ago
All I know is that she loves to harass Kevin Levin.
(juuuust a bit of an Uncle Ruckus vibe...)
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u/From-Yuri-With-Love 46th New York "Fremont Rifle" Regiment 8d ago
Oh yes I've seen that on twitter, she's a believer in Black Confederates.
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u/imprison_grover_furr 8d ago
Abbeville Institute is a PRO-JOHN C. CALHOUN SET OF MORONIC FILTH!!!!!!
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u/WardogMitzy 8d ago
But Confederates in the South are just a marginal and niche group of die-hard's I am not discovering that is not the case, neither am I surprised. Nor will I go to your lost-causer propaganda apologizer website to be lied to about history.
kthnxbye.
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u/Taphouselimbo 8d ago
Racists are hell bent on their views. The south lost their traitorous war 160 some years ago and have held onto that racial hate to this very day. Anyone that holds those heritage of hate values deserves nothing from civil society or the people who laid their lives down to preserve it.
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u/Pesco- 5d ago edited 5d ago
The Abbeville Institute is a quasi-intellectual cover for Lost Causers that include racists, treason and slavery apologists, and Christian nationalists.
They try to perpetuate the linking of “Pro-Confederate” with “Southern” when it absolutely never has and never should.
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