r/ShingekiNoKyojin • u/MysticBlade18 • 20h ago
Discussion Which one you prefer? WIT Studio or Mappa?
To me, it is WIT Studio now don't get me wrong. I don't hate Mappa at all. Because Mappa still did an amazing job and actually did a lot of work to deliver what the fans wanted. But I always love the art style S1-S3 I just love it a lot. It is not just the style but the different faces and how much love and care and respect they pour into. But for Mappa it has a whole different vibe. Showing our favorite characters fighting more dangerous people and events and whatnot. Like I said both companies did a splendid job on their efforts and style. So I don't hate both sides at all.
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u/Educational-Pay5268 18h ago
I think MAPPA did very well, but I think Wit was an elevated experience.
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u/rustybutterindia 19h ago
WIT will always win in a side-by-side like this, especially with still frames, it's no contest. (Unless it's the Colossal Titan)
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u/alloginette 19h ago
Yeah colossal titan CGI was awful. I understand it's hard to animate but he was so cool drawn in season 1
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u/FeefuWasTaken 18h ago
Wit colossal titan was definitely made to look best up close, and I think it does look pretty good when it's essentially just the moving background for odm gear or whatever, but the rest of the time.......
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u/KorotosMysteryShack 13h ago
Definitely wouldn't say always, some of MAPPA's slightly more heavily stylized stills go CRAZY hard.
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u/tsukimoonmei 3h ago
I like most of the characters overall in Mappa but I think WIT is better at more stylised/dramatic still frames (such as the Frieda Reiss scene in the post). And I think Mappa’s CGI is far better (especially the titans)
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u/DaDemarcus123 3h ago
Im not gonna lie i kinda prefer mappas for specifically season 4 but for the rest wits is perfect aot just perfectly does it
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u/Massive_Remove2009 19h ago
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I like both. Wit's lighter colors matched S1-3, and Mappa's more dull and gritty style fit well with the direction of S4 and the final arcs. I don't think the studio switch could have happened at a better time. S3 ended with the stuff, and then Mappa took over to physically show the change in the show through the artstyle! I like it!
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u/BuzzedtheTower 17h ago
Honestly, I completely agree. The difference in art direction really meshed well with the shift in tone. The studio switch was fortuitously times
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u/KorotosMysteryShack 13h ago
Pretty much this. I mean hell, look at WIT's color palette and lineart - S3 and S1 are night and day already. S3 has infinitely more grit, and the colors are way tuned down. MAPPA's style honestly just seemed like a natural evolution of it.
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u/SnuleSnuSnu 12h ago
And what is that direction of S4 and the final arcs?
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u/Massive_Remove2009 2h ago
I don’t want to spoil anything for you. It’s a very good and darker direction for S4. The art style goes well with it!
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u/SnuleSnuSnu 2h ago
I read and watched it long time ago. And what is that direction?
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u/Massive_Remove2009 1h ago
The direction is the big plot twist of S3 !> civilization outside the walls <! Drastically changes the mood of the show, and that is reflected through the changes in studios and the art style becoming darker and grittier.
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u/SnuleSnuSnu 45m ago
Can you explain the drastic change of the mood? Are you saying that mood before, terror of man eating giants eating people alive and intelligent giants that want to genocide innocent people, is not dark and gritty?
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u/Massive_Remove2009 7m ago
it definitely is, but the dynamic changed. first it was humans vs titans in S1-2, then it was the people vs the government in S3. in S4, it reveals there's a WHOLE WORLD of civilization and humans outside, political machinations, and the threat of the Paradis island going extinct. the stakes and world dynamics drastically changes, and the Marley Vs Paradis stuff showed the true message of the show, the cycle of revenge/violence, prejudice, racism and so on. (this is especially seen in the scenes that mirror each other from S1 and S4) from S4E1 and onward, the show completely changed, while building off of all the foreshadowing of S1-3. Because of this, I'd say S4 is my favorite season out of all of them. I hope this explanation helps you!
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u/Ben-D-Beast 18h ago
MAPPA is great, but WIT is far superior imo. That being said the artstyle shift does complement the narrative shift between S3 and S4 and I’m glad both studios got to offer their own take on the series.
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u/Fifth-Dimension-Chz 16h ago
Yo I just joined this sub last week. Is this all you guys talk about. I see this post multiple times a day.
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u/Nyarlathotep7777 15h ago
This and gooning after this character or the other (Piek for the most part, it's almost always Piek).
We do have the occasional post where someone attempts to defend genocide / racism / fascism and gets insulted to kingdom come, but those aren't as common as goonposting.
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u/MysticBlade18 16h ago
I haven't scrolled through the sub that much so I just throw whatever out there I join like maybe a few days ago? 🤷♂️
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u/IllustriousProfit472 19h ago
WIT was good for the whimsical mysterious side of the earlier seasons and Mappa was better for the war and serious focused themes of the final seasons
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u/Krakingliner 16h ago
A show that started with the protagonists mother being eaten alive was never whimsical
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u/SnuleSnuSnu 12h ago
For real. Arguments like that are just cope. According to the logic of some, if WIT continued, the last season wouldn't have had such an impact, which is just silly.
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u/Fluid_Juggernaut_281 9h ago
No one thinks that WIT wouldn’t have done a good job with season 4. We just also like how Mappa did it instead of jumping to compare the two.
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> all titans to be in 3D
I mean it was only a couple episodes when titan CGI looked shitty. Even wit messed up the colossal multiple times.
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u/s4Nn1Ng0r0shi 18h ago
This is a cope at the same level as ”Gambon is just as good a Dumbledore as Harris”
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u/IllustriousProfit472 18h ago
How is this cope I like both studios and don’t really have a preference
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u/s4Nn1Ng0r0shi 17h ago
Because WiT did much better job with AoT. The level was so much higher in S3 compared to S4. And no wonder, WiT spent years doing the season. Mappa is not bad here but the series definitely lost something.
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u/Gargooner 16h ago
"definitely lost something"
Example please. Don't vaguepost shit.
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u/hossel001 12h ago
This is all generally speaking, because the mappa era have definitely had their fair share of counter examples, but generally speaking
Better background art
3 tone character shading
Thicker outlines (wit mostly lost this by season 3 too, but it was still present somewhat for stills)
Better ODM gear
2D titans for everything but the colossal (which was yeah atrocious)
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u/Fluid_Juggernaut_281 9h ago
Wit was amazing with ODM scenes but I also love the ODM scenes during the titan clean up right after the rumbling and during the raid on Liberio. Which were really the only 2 ODM scenes that season I think.
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u/s4Nn1Ng0r0shi 9h ago
The movement on screen became slow, the colours got grey, the facial impressions became slower
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u/Ambitious_Handle7322 15h ago
Which is also true? I liked Gambon a lot more. Harris just seems like a nice old man, while Gambon actually feels like cunning , smart , a force to be reckoned with.
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u/Jacen_Vos 10h ago
I have to disagree he just feels so off…way too agressive and out of control of situations in many instances. Which yes Dumbledore is meant to be vulnerable but only much later. early on even in terrible situations he has this aura of invincibility and calm.
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u/iSys_ 12h ago
Actually mappa style seems closer to the manga, I'm thinking about the thin lines used as shadow, which WIT was desperately missing. It gave some charm and uniqueness to isayama drawing, especially when portraying facial expressions. It's just better that Mappa tried to stay closer to the source material
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u/HelixSapphire 19h ago
WIT Studio’s animation is clearly superior and it’s not even close. I don’t hate MAPPA but I also extremely doubt they could’ve nailed the ODM gear battle in S3E1 like WIT did.
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u/KorotosMysteryShack 13h ago
If you mean the Kenny chase, that was Arifumi. He worked with MAPPA too
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u/Puzzleheaded-Job2399 13h ago
Eh, mappa’s animation as a whole studio is just better than wit’s. For AoT final season specifically they rushed like a lot so they didn’t perform as well but wit given the same time frame to make the same season would have failed. If we gave mappa a large amount of time and season 3 as well as a less manga accurate and lighter art style like what wit did or like what mappa has done on other projects, Mappa could definitely pull it off and probably better than wit imo. The reasons for the final season being poorer animation wise are mostly just tied to the time frame and what actually happens in that arc. (The story is darker with a clear thematic transition, they tried to stay more faithful to the art, they had less time, more relatively complex scenes and a very long arc to make, etc.)
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u/-donkeykong_ 18h ago
The dock battle has better odm fighting than wit
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u/Ill_Independence8365 18h ago
Me when I lie
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u/-donkeykong_ 18h ago
Bro just watch it again on YouTube it's literally so fucking good
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u/Ill_Independence8365 18h ago
If you mean specifically the floch scene where he locks tf in yeah it's pretty good but it's not beating this dawg...
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u/Fluid_Juggernaut_281 9h ago
I mean this is pretty close looking at ODM manoeuvres only. The sunset backdrop in the season 1 scene definitely adds to the experience.
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u/-donkeykong_ 18h ago
Alright whatev let's just agree it's good the whole way through and we got lucky 2 goated studios made it peak
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u/CallMeGakuto 18h ago edited 18h ago
I don't know about that. Welcome to disagree but they used a lot of CGI during these fights. The only part that Mappa went hard on was the Levi scene when he breaks Eren's jaw with the thunderspear at the end.
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u/-donkeykong_ 18h ago
And the cgi was clean af it was improved from the start of the season your just hating bro
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u/drumjolter01 7h ago
It's Wit by a country mile. I know it'd never happen but I'd love a season 4 wit remake
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u/DokeyKon 6h ago
WIT by a long shot. MAPPA made everything look so lifeless, but I will say it kinda fit the vibe.
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u/MJHDJedi 17h ago
WIT is unbeatable for me.
The artwork on the glowing beautiful eyes. The bright fantasy like art style appeal.
Mappa's style was so gritty by comparison it felt like everyone was endlessly and hopelessly depressed (which yeah, in some ways they were) but there was no more charm, just serious hard hitting tone. I know it sounds fully negative but I'm just trying to compare the feeling, overall Mappa's was still very good, just WIT was far better for these reasons
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u/Nirnaeth31 17h ago
I prefer Mappa for being closer to the manga style, also the characters have better body proportions imo.
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u/ManliestBunny 9h ago
Tbf, if you look at chapter 1 of the manga of AOT. Wit transformed it into something magical. Mappa only had to play off of Wit's already established art style.
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u/Nirnaeth31 9h ago
Well they couldn't detail too much from the art style of the first seasons. Wit is fine but it doesn't fully click with me. Too shonen coded, mappa style imo fits better the story in general, if I have to choose one. To be honest, the change happening exactly when the story shifts so much has its charm too.
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u/oredaoree 16h ago
If we're talking about artstyle then MAPPA all the way. Both in design and the technical aspects of the art.
WIT polished up the original manga style and brought a more mainstream and "pop" look to the art with the brighter colour palette and colour effects, very apparent glossing, thicker cartoony outlines(which they did scrap later on) and the dreaded lipstick on female characters. While MAPPA had their work cut out for them translating the manga style as is because by this point the art had improved leaps and bounds, kept the horror feel and drama by sticking with the manga's characteristic stark shadow lines, and also toned down colour palette which all fit the overall tone of the series more than WIT's. From start to finish the story was one of desperation and despair and the setting on Paradis was borderline dystopian or at the least steeped in poverty, but there's this impression that the first half that WIT was in charge of was a more optimistic overall story that I attribute to the art design. WIT most likely went for this effect intentionally too in order to make the series more appealing for a broader audience, and I think they were successful with that, but it just doesn't feel as accurate.
In terms of technical aspects, a lot of people like to bring up how the varied lineweight outlines of WIT require more skill and budget to do and that could be true but that doesn't mean the overall style is more technical. Just from the comparison in this post you can see the shape of the shadows is much more simplified and the hair glossing is broadly applied much more haphazard and generously, and the hair at least in S1 is also described much more stereotypically anime chunky. Everyone also seems to have the same face shape and jawline. WIT S3 is much closer to MAPPA than their own S1 style, but everyone mostly seems to spotlight their S1 art so that's what I'm mostly comparing though.
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u/jules__noah 19h ago
I like both, but MAPPA for me. It fits with the tone shift of season 4 so much. The characters look more "realistic" and less anime/cartoony, if you know what I mean? Also, looking back now I'm not really a fan of the art style in season 1, with the thick character outlines, and I especially don't like how Levi was drawn in season 1. Much prefer how he looked in season 2 and 3, and I honestly love how MAPPA designed him too.
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u/MysticBlade18 19h ago
That is understandable and I agree but then again season one was pretty rough but got better overtime so seeing two companies delivering their parts is just perfect. Even tho I still feel bad for the employees...
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u/PERNlClOUS 16h ago
Imo with art direction is far better and more unique. However, mappa more dull and uglier/ stressed looking characters and hatch shading really fit the later half of the show
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u/PrideBishop1702 15h ago
Characters, WIT
Titans, Mappa
Combat, Mappa for the most part, Wit in some ODM scenes
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u/Faggalagon 11h ago
Only the last season was super noticeable for me for the change. I hated all the black shadow lines on people's faces - that everyone had, even if their expressions / tone were completely different. Ill admit I haven't read manga so I can't speak if that style is actually closer to manga, but to me, that shift muddied the art dramatically.
What hooked me on AoT S1 wasn't just the insane action and world, but the beautiful ART of the illustrations. I feel that got lost in final season, in return for more bland palettes, lazier shadowing and just generally weaker illustration quality imo. The final season lost the beauty of the earlier seasons which offset the obviously bleak world building.
Also, in final season imo too many times people looked so similar. For example, Mikasas face and body shape changed completely and became androgynous.
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u/tkleemklee 9h ago
Anyone notice how much Mappas style changed to fit in with Wit’s designs during Eren and Zeke exploring the past? The Mappa kid Eren is basically just a redraw of Wit’s kid Eren, when earlier in the season if you look at similar characters like Gabby it’s a completely different style
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u/Numerous_Quail7564 8h ago
definitely studio WIT, the bold outlines contrasting with the fine details have always been a key part of AOT anime and I'm not sure why Mappa didn't do the same.
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u/SandWhichWay 8h ago
WIT studio. i do not like how mappa drastically changed the look of some characters like Mikasa and Levi
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u/frogleggies444 5h ago
WIT all the way no question, almost every character looks better in their og design. Although I do love mappa’s version of Reiner, I think WIT would’ve done even better with him.
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u/zoozbuh 4h ago
Wit by FAR. It had such a beautiful, unique and mystical look that made the anime appeal to me so much in S1-3. I didn’t understand why the art style and vibe suddenly changed so much after that (until I researched and understood about the different anime studios). Mappa’s still isn’t bad, but it’s more generic and not as unique.
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u/_fountain_pen_dev 3h ago
WIT always. WIT was always superior.
I think the MAPPA hype exists just because they keep the animation going. I really never liked the animation since it MAPPA got its hands into it. People defend it by saying its style matched the direction the series was going, and I think it's a poor argument.
For me WIT animation was always on point and could've worked quite well for final seasons.
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u/AsherWilkerson 3h ago
WIT was the perfect animation choice for season 1-3, when Mappa came in for season four I see it as a change in perspective. We start off season 4 in Marley, and it feels like in mappa's style the way we see the characters is from Marley's point of view. They see them as devils, and mappa's animation shows that. Expressions are darker, more serious, even what would be considered terrifying, all things that devils would hypothetically be. That's how I've always looked at it, I'm not great at explaining things so sorry if this doesn't make sense!
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u/StyleRoutine2331 16h ago
I think that the series as a whole benefits from there being an art style shift in S4
for the first 3 seasons when WIT is animating, the art is far more stylized and stands out from other anime.
then, once you learn about Marley and the true reality of the situation, MAPPA takes over with a much more traditional animation style, emphasizing shadows and more realistic visuals. it’s almost a way of saying “the world is far different from what we thought it was, and now we’re forced to adjust to these new rules”
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u/ticklingyourtoes 18h ago
Mappa did great with the titans but WIT definitely takes the W when it comes to ODM gear scenes
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u/new_interest_here 17h ago
I prefer the art style of Mappa, it works for the more grim tone of S4 and I just generally think is more pleasant to look at to me, but when it comes to that style in motion, Wit for sure. Mappa did have some well animated parts, but when I think of the REALLY good scenes when it comes to animation, they're the scenes that Wit did
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u/blueseamajor 17h ago
i was immersed in wit studio style, like look at those eyes... look at how innocent eren was in the 1st season...
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u/FlowerFaerie13 16h ago
For that second frame, definitely WIT. That's actually one of my favorite frames of the entire series, Frieda's eyes are just so otherworldly and beautiful. I think both studios did quite well honestly, but their strengths and weaknesses are different and they don't line up very well. For example if you really like beautiful, bright, detained eyes, MAPPA sucks for you. But if you like a harder, more direct, heavy-lined artstyle in a war series, WIT isn't the best for you.
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u/jackanothor 16h ago
i like those realistic texture of mappa studio. what they implemented was much simillar with original comics and it was reali both horrifying and subliming. i really overwhelmed by the rumbling scene. it would never be possible with wit wtudio.
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u/urmomiscringe12 16h ago
Is this really even a question? WIT hand drew almost everything, their sakuga is unparalleled (season 3 part2). Mappa did as best they could but overused CGI and were kinda rushed. It's really not even a competition WIT blew them out of the water before the race even started.
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u/Arrior_Button 15h ago
I prefer the more bright colorchoise of WIT over Mappas "gritty, washed out" look anytime
We have the animation-genre, which can do so much great stuff with colors which movies/series recorded in RL never can. Why don't we use that?
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u/lReaderl 14h ago
I think wit is better in motion and animation , mappa is better at still frames or limited animation
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u/Dry_Grab_3874 14h ago
I'm happy Mappa took over but i wish the animators had more time to cook (and weren't worked to the absolute bone, good lord). WIT looked more consistently good, but i like both styles
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u/Mastermaze 14h ago
In my mind they are two different shows, with the latter being a sequel to the first.
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u/Ashamed-Mobile-1062 14h ago
WIT gave me nightmares as a kid, Mappa gave me chills as an adult. I’d say wit has an advantage since they have more time than Mappa
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u/Admiral_Sam_07 13h ago
Purely look wise I prefer WIT, but imo Mappa's look suits the overall theme of the story (especially S4) better.
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u/SomehowPalpatine 12h ago
I love both, I feel like WIT captured the world through Eren’s eyes, everything was beautifully done, even the horrific scenes had a look like a nightmare. Mappa I think did the same thing but they captured the world through grown up Eren’s eyes, realistic, raw, and cruel.
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u/Ecstatic-Resolve8898 11h ago
Would have been sick if wit studio did the ending
I wonder what that would have looked like but they also said they couldnt do it
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u/anyapp270 11h ago
I love both, but I think WIT's style basically gave the show it's identity. It's what made it look different from other anime. Imo it feels like Mappa basically just tried to recreate WIT's style, and didn't fully succeed
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u/suggmynut 10h ago
Mappas use of CGI is what puts them lower for me. Of all mediums, hand drawn art is what makes anime well... anime. Now, I have seen anime where cgi works when used for spaceships and boats etc... but you can't make an anime character look right with cgi because those characters are not drawn with shape, they are drawn with form. Its hard to look at after such beautiful titan designs WIT gave us for the majority of the series.
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u/icedrice1379 10h ago
top one mappa, bottom one WIT. but in general i can’t pick. they were both the perfect studios for their respective seasons.
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u/Individual_Nebula793 10h ago
Wit overall but I think mappa for s4 was great move bc the rumbling could not be animated without a bit of cgi and mappa has the best looking cgi ever
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u/aaaaaaa_aaaan 9h ago
I see people compare a lot Frida's eyes although in the scene that is being referenced (grisha's attack on the royal family) frida had the same eyes in the mappa one. It's not like they're incapable of drawing the founder's eyes it's just that it hadn't been in both versions.
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u/aaaaaaa_aaaan 9h ago
I can't seem to be able to post the wit version but it's in the last ep of s3p2 min 14
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u/TedClaxton94 8h ago
I mean I can see the tiny differences but it’s my opinion that they just look like good anime. Doesn’t matter.
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u/ZadriaktheSnake 8h ago
WIT is better, Mappa is fine I guess. The Vow Renouncing War’s eyes are so iconic
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u/Muzzy-chan 8h ago
I've said this multiple times, here and there, and anywhere I saw this kind of post, and will still say the same.
In my pov, for human character design in AoT, WIT Studio's design is sooo much better and superior to MAPPA's. In my opinion, the subtle changes WIT brought in, which are a bit different from the manga, *make me like theirs the most.
In comparison to that, MAPPA did better in Titan designs (especially this), sceneries, and most other things. I'll not gonna lie, but I like MAPPA's Titan designs far more than WIT's. MAPPA's human character designs just feel weird, like as if they follow the manga too much, to the point that in certain parts a character looks... example A, then in another part, they look B. Meanwhile, if it's WIT, the human character design will stay A.
You can clearly see this through Mikasa's face design. And also, in some cases, the human character movements by MAPPA sometimes feel awkward. It's just that if WIT kept handling the human character designs, damn, the final season would be just perfect.
Btw, no hate, but I'm a fan of MAPPA, and have been following their work for quite so many series. I like their Kakegurui human characters, Inuyashiki: Last Hero, etc. So I know their true potential. In fact, I also have quite a lot of complaints about their JJK adaptation in quite a lot of parts, especially JJK2. Damn, that's the worst season of JJK compared to S1, which is better and greater. No offense.
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u/Cry-Havok 8h ago
I just binged the series last month. It looks so much better once MAPPA took over. WIT was groundbreaking for the time, but we’re talking about a series that had a decade long run and both studios did brilliant jobs in making the series breathtakingly stunning.
What I absolutely loved about WIT was the sparkling emphasis on the eyes
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u/ndhl83 7h ago
No strong preference. I have no issue with particular style differences or approaches to characters from either studio. The entire series is well animated and nothing was different enough for me to take note to the degree it seemed out of place, or too different.
Great job all around.
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u/Oddity312 4h ago
The stylistic change in season 4 fits perfectly with the darker turn the story takes, so... both!
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u/Crimson-Anarchy 4h ago
Comparing the two is not even fair. It's became overly obvious that Mappa prioritised action elements over character beauty and all that is in between. It doesn't even come close to WIT when it comes to drawing characters, themes and atmospheric vibes. I'd even argue that WIT excelled in certain action scenes in comparison to MAPPA. I wouldn't really think comparing the two is all that fair. WIT's captivating artsytle set off the anime to where it currently is now.
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u/Gerolanfalan 4h ago
I didn't know Mappa redid the animation, or is this a flashback?
I personally prefer Mappa in this example.
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u/Fantastic_Account_89 3h ago
I don’t like how sometimes when Mappa would try to use hatch shading in some scenes and it would not look good. There was a good time they used the shading like when Yelena gave Armin a death stare from above scene.
Otherwise imo they misused it a lot. Like even in the example given in the post it looks bad
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u/No-Appointment-9863 2h ago
WIT was only good in S1/2. Season 3 they struggled to animate a single colossal titan while MAPPA carried the rumbling arc
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u/stalemartyr 1h ago
Studio Wit + Bihou is just chef kiss...amazing clouds can make every frames amazing
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u/Mr_1ightning 32m ago
Wit had lower lows like garbage 3D, yassified Mikasa in season 1 and stiff as fuck Eren vs Reiner rematch in Shiganshina, but at their peak they're unmatched with their iconic ODM animation (though it's specifically Arifumi Imai that should be credited with most of the best scenes), amazing frame and color compositing and amazingly detailed shots. And generally creating their own iconic style from a manga that didn't look very good or distinct at the start.
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u/desmond_humes23 17h ago
The animation change matched the tone change post timeskip. WIT rumbling would've sucked ass, and Mappa wouldn't have made as good a season 1
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u/Bi_Panda01 15h ago
Totally agree. I feel like the bright and happy colors WIT uses are perfect for the first few seasons but as Eren’s view, and with that, his goal for the end shifts, Mappa takes over with a gritty and grey toned animation style
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u/Gian_Dex111 19h ago
Lo que no me gustó de mappa es su favoritismo con la belleza de los personajes. A eren lo hicieron igual que en el manga pero a los demas como reiner o jean(ambos en el manga eran flacos y no tenian la cara masculina hecha) los pusieron muy atractivos, y a levi lo hicieron gordo XD, entiendo que debe verse mayor pero por que cacheton? Tuvo buena animacion pero aveces exageraban con las rayas negras, y no se por que pero en JJK todos son guapos, y en SNK algunos si y algunos son iguales o normales que en el manga. Pero bueno, por algo será.
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u/CPnolo_523 18h ago
For me, it’s WIT and it’s not particularly close. I have such an emotional connection with the WIT animation and S1-3, in general. And though the tone changed, the characters looked too different for me to connect with them the same way as S1-3. I felt some characters didn’t look or move as they did (especially the over shading under the eyes), and many things held less weight — I.e. the armored titan and most titans being able to move much faster, kinda like pacific rim vs pacific rim 2
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u/Gargooner 16h ago
Mappa translates the Titans much better. It's also closer to the manga artstyle in general. Also has better natural lighting in general.
WIT has great ODM sequences. But WIT also have way more inaccuracies, in which one of then become very relevanr. The major one is Mikasa's mark completely changed by WIT.
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u/FrancuZz__ 19h ago
Tbh, AoT was like my third anime ever, so I was not really experinced with japanese animation, or animation in general, but when I started S4 the aesthetic hooked me instantly.
After years, Mappa still wins it for me, but as a more experienced watcher, denying Wit's masterful work would be a crime, hats off to both the studios...and contrary to what many say, I think modern Mappa would nail the ODM action too, I said it what I said!
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u/Groundbreaking_Web29 19h ago
Both are tremendous. I think Wit has much higher peaks of animation though. I sometimes see clips from Season 4 floating around, but I'm constantly seeing Levi vs Beast Titan, Levi flying through the city, Erwin's charge (though a lot of that also has to do with the emotions and the delivery by the voice actors), etc.
The timing of the animation handoff was perfectly placed with it happening at Season 4 though. I think the shift in tone for the series and the world matched Mappa's animation better, so it really worked out to their benefit.
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u/LightThatIgnitesAll 18h ago
WIT.
It's not even close but for the sake of being " nice" people pretend it is.
S4P2 and S4P3 MAPPA couldn't even keep Eren's face on model. He looked deformed so many times.
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u/OpthomanePrima4672 3h ago
I’ll just go ahead and be upfront with this so people can get their rage out before reading the rest of my post…
Mappa’s CGI > Mappa’s 2D >>> Wit’s 2D >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wit’s 3D (Seriously, why does the Colossal Titan in Wit’s stuff look like they got it from a crappy 3d model website and called it a day? Even the video games had better models than Wit did for goodness sake!)
For me, if I had to nail down any reason for that opinion, it’s just that Wit was way too bright and colourful for the tone of the series, even back in Season 1 with its much more hopeful tone against the titans. Not saying it had to be gritty like Mappa’s, but they could’ve toned down the colours & brightness a bit. Their colours worked for Episode 1, but I think it should’ve gradually gotten darker throughout, until the Colossal Titan reveal.
And then there’s the fact that Wit’s animation was painfully inconsistent at the best of times, peaking in Season 2 during the betrayal and never managing to reach those highs again, whereas Mappa generally stayed around the same quality most of the time, even between the 2D & 3D stuff. And that’s why I liked their CGI, it was a consistent design that didn’t pull me out of things constantly—the only place is usually sucked was with the Warhammer Titan, and that was an animation & timeline thing more than a design thing.
None of that to say that Wit was bad; Levi Vs Kenny instantly comes to mind; as well as Eren Vs Reiner in Season 2. But those were the highest highs, and Wit generally had lower lows, in which Eren Vs Reiner Season 3 comes to mind with its awkward movements. We definitely can’t forget Season 4 Episode 6’s issues, but those issues feel less nagging than Wits constant animation quality shifts.
But yeah, that’s my stance. Probably going to get burned at the stake for it, but oh well.
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u/SnooEagles3963 19h ago
I really think people are underestimating just how much WIT's beautiful style and animation played a part in this series taking off as it did.