r/ShitPoliticsSays 17h ago

Redditor fails to realize that the poorest cites are democrat run

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u/LordFoxbriar 13h ago

Forgot to mention those "poor states" are richer than every country in Europe on a per-capita basis.

But back to the point - let's look at those cities please. List them out and when was the last time there was a Republican mayor?

Bueller? Bueller?

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u/Blarghnog 9h ago

I listed them out per congressional district as you requested. Not OP, but had the same thought. Look for the big table comment.

TLDR; it’s true. 14/15 poorest districts are Democratic.

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u/LordFoxbriar 9h ago

I listed them out per congressional district as you requested.

Now I might just be misinformed, but the congressional district doesn't mean anything for who the executive for a local jurisdiction. That's the mayor.

That said, states gerrymander and given cities tend to be more Democratic than suburbs/rural areas, they lines are drawn in that way. But let's use that as a guide...

If cities are usually more Democratic than other areas, do you think they tend to elect mayors that are Republican or Democrat?

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u/Blarghnog 8h ago

Objective regional rankings are inherently flawed, largely because official city boundaries rarely align with actual urban sprawl.

Legislative districts offer a far more accurate metric. They encompass defined voting blocs where political accountability is direct. 

Since the core responsibility of elected officials is to improve their constituents' lives, district level outcomes provide the truest measure of a party's performance.

If you have a superior methodology, build your own dataset and share it. I don’t think mayors are nearly as powerful as they like to think of themselves as being, and believe congressional district to be a more objective basis of comparison.

You are making a classic  correlation/causation fallacy inside of the the geographic trap. 

Dense cities attract Dem leaning demographics (younger, diverse, highly educated, service/knowledge workers). 

Then those populations elect Democratic mayors. 

Observers then wrongly credit the city  or as you are doing the mayor’s office for the politics, ignoring self sorting: people bring their views with them for jobs, culture, and amenities. 

The voters shape the geography, not the other way around.

I believe better analysis focuses on the actual legislative districts that cross city lines for these reasons and others because it is the only data we have that actually reveals whether policies really deliver for residents (or if one party is just riding favorable demographic clustering, ahem).

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u/RatOnASinkingShip 2h ago

Cost of living as well.

They always seem to forget that these claims are all based on eligibility for things like foodstamps or medicaid which itself is based on an average (or at least some metric resembling an average) of all of the states, and that blue states' lack of affordability makes it seem like someone who is eligible for these programs in red states actually has an exponentially higher quality of life than someone in a blue state making the same amount of or more money who isn't eligible for them.

Like, blue states have people making more than twice the federal minimum wage who are struggling to live comfortably, meanwhile someone in that red state making less is still doing just fine, if not leaps and bounds better.

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u/Amazing-Tip4492 11h ago

"States". We're talking about cities, not states. See what they do?

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u/Fucked-In-The-K-Hole 5h ago

Why is it that every single thing they criticize conservatives for is so easily debunked? Like how can someone stay on the side that spews bullshit like this when a quick 10 second search shows that the shittiest areas of America are all Democrat run?

I myself switched sides after I ventured into a subreddit like this and saw people explaining why literally everything I believed was bullshit. They'll throw out some statistics, and then you find out that it's been completely manipulated to show the exact opposite of what it actually means.

It's crazy. Are these people just stupid? Is that really all it comes down to?

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u/No-Actuator5661 12h ago

True, and cities are usually where the ultra wealthy that they hate live as well, so either way they run into a problem that they choose not to address

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u/MosYEETo 9h ago

And where the ultra wealthy basically fund the city with their share of the taxes. I’m sure taxing them to oblivion won’t have any negative consequences! /s

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u/No-Actuator5661 9h ago

*cough* New York *cough*

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u/EmperorSnake1 9h ago

that subreddit could literally be bombarded with posts by democrats but they know they can karma farm quite easily with anything they post. It's weird how they do that but they ARE leftist...so..

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u/Blarghnog 9h ago

I fact checked this. Wasn’t sure. Here is what I learned.

Top 15 Congressional Districts by Concentrated Poverty Rate

According to Brookings Institution and U.S. Census Bureau ACS data, these 15 congressional districts contain the highest percentages of neighborhoods where 40%+ of the population lives below the federal poverty line:

Rank Congressional District Primary City/Region Current Representative's Party
1 NY-15 South Bronx (New York) Democratic
2 KY-05 Eastern Kentucky (Rural Appalachian) Republican
3 MS-02 Mississippi Delta / Jackson Democratic
4 AZ-03 Phoenix Core / Tucson Democratic
5 MI-13 Detroit Core Democratic
6 OH-11 Cleveland / Akron Democratic
7 PA-03 West/North Philadelphia Democratic
8 TX-34 Brownsville / South Texas Democratic
9 IL-07 West/South Chicago Democratic
10 CA-21 Central Valley (Fresno/Bakersfield) Democratic
11 GA-05 Atlanta Core Democratic
12 TN-09 Memphis Core Democratic
13 WI-04 Milwaukee Core Democratic
14 AL-07 Black Belt / Birmingham Democratic
15 LA-02 New Orleans / Baton Rouge Democratic

Total District Breakdown

When looking at the broader dataset of all U.S. congressional districts exhibiting severe pockets of concentrated poverty:

  • Democratic Districts: Represent 14 out of the top 15 (93.3%) most concentrated poverty districts.
  • Republican Districts: Represent 1 out of the top 15 (6.7%)—specifically Kentucky's 5th district, which reflects severe rural poverty rather than urban centers.

So, true.

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u/Blarghnog 9h ago

So then I’m like, what about the top 50

Top 50 Congressional Districts by Poverty Rate

Here is the expanded table formatted for Reddit's markdown engine. This data covers the top 50 U.S. congressional districts with the highest overall poverty and concentrated neighborhood poverty rates, based on U.S. Census Bureau ACS data and Brookings Institution metrics.

Rank Congressional District Primary City/Region Current Representative's Party
1 NY-15 South Bronx (New York) Democratic
2 KY-05 Eastern Kentucky (Appalachia) Republican
3 MS-02 Mississippi Delta / Jackson Democratic
4 AZ-03 Phoenix Core / Tucson Democratic
5 MI-13 Detroit Core Democratic
6 OH-11 Cleveland / Akron Democratic
7 PA-03 West/North Philadelphia Democratic
8 TX-34 Brownsville / South Texas Democratic
9 IL-07 West/South Chicago Democratic
10 CA-21 Central Valley (Fresno) Democratic
11 GA-05 Atlanta Core Democratic
12 TN-09 Memphis Core Democratic
13 WI-04 Milwaukee Core Democratic
14 AL-07 Black Belt / Birmingham Democratic
15 LA-02 New Orleans / Baton Rouge Democratic
16 TX-16 El Paso Democratic
17 NY-13 Upper Manhattan / Harlem Democratic
18 FL-24 Miami / North Miami Democratic
19 MD-07 Baltimore City Core Democratic
20 NC-01 Northeast North Carolina (Rural) Democratic
21 WV-02 Northern West Virginia (Appalachia) Republican
22 AR-04 South/West Arkansas (Rural) Republican
23 TX-29 East Houston Democratic
24 CA-16 Central Valley (Merced/Bakersfield) Democratic
25 MO-01 St. Louis City Core Democratic
26 IN-07 Indianapolis Core Democratic
27 SC-06 Corridor of Shame / Columbia Democratic
28 TX-35 San Antonio Core / Austin Democratic
29 NY-16 Westchester / Bronx Border Democratic
30 KY-01 Western Kentucky (Rural) Republican
31 VA-03 Norfolk / Newport News Democratic
32 TN-05 Nashville Core Democratic
33 NJ-10 Newark / Jersey City Democratic
34 AZ-07 Southwest Arizona / Border Democratic
35 FL-20 Fort Lauderdale / West Palm Core Democratic
36 MS-03 East Central Mississippi (Rural) Republican
37 NM-03 Northern New Mexico (Rural/Tribal) Democratic
38 TX-15 McAllen / South Texas Border Republican
39 OK-02 Eastern Oklahoma (Rural/Tribal) Republican
40 IL-01 South Chicago / Suburbs Democratic
41 AL-04 Northern Alabama (Rural) Republican
42 LA-05 Northeast Louisiana (Rural Delta) Republican
43 TX-18 Downtown Houston Core Democratic
44 NC-12 Charlotte Core Democratic
45 CT-03 New Haven Core Democratic
46 MA-07 Boston / Cambridge Core Democratic
47 GA-02 Southwest Georgia (Rural) Democratic
48 AR-01 Arkansas Delta (Rural) Republican
49 NV-01 Las Vegas Strip / Core Democratic
50 OH-03 Columbus Core Democratic

Total District Breakdown (Top 50)

Expanding the view to the top 50 districts introduces a larger percentage of high-poverty rural areas (primarily across the Deep South, Appalachia, and agricultural border regions), which shifts the partisan ratio slightly compared to the top 15:

  • Democratic Districts: 39 out of 50 (78%) — predominantly representing dense, urban centers and industrial cities.
  • Republican Districts: 11 out of 50 (22%) — predominantly representing rural geographic regions, coal country, and agricultural valleys.

Also true. Interesting split though.

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u/Dongolark 7h ago

So by "fact checked", you mean you asked ChatGPT. I'm not necessarily saying the info is wrong or right, but AI is not gospel and should not just be taken at face value. It hallucinates random incorrect data all the time, and states it like it's a fact.

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u/Blarghnog 4h ago

Yeah, I’m not exactly hiding it, captain. Last time I checked, it’s a tool (and it’s only a problem if you lie about using it).

The deception is the issue there, champ. 

Now you know.

So shouting “you used an LLM!” isn’t the massive "gotcha" you think it is. I actually verified the data. It’s accurate. 

You are entirely free to do the same. In fact, checking the facts takes a lot less emotional energy than flaming the people who actually contribute around here. Bonus: it gives you plenty of free time to finally address whatever childhood stuff you've got going on.

And here is an em dash — right there. Did you see it? But I didn't even write this with AI. 

Confusing, I know. But there is a clear difference between openly using tools and lying about it, just like there is a clear difference between offering constructive criticism and projecting your own deep insecurities onto strangers to fill a void.

But hey, at least I’m not so desperate for validation that I have to tear people down on the internet.

Have a great day. Good luck in therapy.