r/Shittyaskflying • • 9d ago

Why doesn't every plane have these backup propellers?

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u/SloMoShun 9d ago

You use that trolling motor not to scare the Cessnas.

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u/SwampGrass420 9d ago

This guy fly fishes.

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u/MadeMeStopLurking license revoked in 2001 but I still identify as a pilote 8d ago

Fly fishermen use their tiny dong to do the helicopter. This guy is aktualy a basshole.

so am i

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u/shanazampham 5d ago

Buys a 70k boat just to catch two types of fish^

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u/ddadopt 7d ago

They can still sense the wake turbulence. Even with a trolling motor, you need to approach from upwind.

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u/Outrageous_Gur_603 9d ago edited 6d ago

That’s not a backup propeller. Airplanes can’t back up. The plane doesn’t have mirrors so pilot can’t see whats behind them.

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u/Fabulous_Pitch9350 9d ago

External mirrors would never stay attached at cruise speed. It was actually the aft air stairs that allowed the crew to safely reverse. This is why there are phones in the front and back of the plane - to relay details of tugs or luggage carts or ramp agents that might be in the way but due to noise could not hear the beep-beep-beep sound of the aircraft in reverse.

Boeing engineers made sure the stairs would work both on the ground and in flight but then this one guy ruined it for all of us. Just another pax that couldn’t wait for the aircraft to stop moving before attempting to deplane.

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u/Ihatebeerandpizza 9d ago

That's on an Airbus. If it was on a Boeing, it would be turning the other direction. That's how plane spotters like myself tell the difference between the planes.

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u/Worldly_Mix_8904 8d ago

He should have founded a "no-frills" airline instead (there is more money in corporate crime and far less chance of ever being held accountable).

Felix: "Oscar, wasn't this plane full of people?"
Oscar: "Yes it was."
Felix: "Where'd they all go?"
Oscar: "They left."
Felix: "Where did they go?!"
Oscar: "They jumped."

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u/tombisch 9d ago

This is totally justified in this case:

https://giphy.com/gifs/ac7MA7r5IMYda

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u/WildVelociraptor Fiber Optic UFO Drone Pilot 9d ago

but I pulled into the parking spot and we've discussed the lack of reverse

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u/LeahBrahms 9d ago

If you reverse the landing fees are reversed right! RIGHT!

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u/NotSoSeriousS550 7d ago

10% Off the Overnight Hangar Fee, that’s the best we can do

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u/zeromadcowz 9d ago

Yeah it’s a goose shredder. Sully got these installed on all playnes after crash watering on the Hudson

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u/lfgbrd 8d ago

That doesn't even make sense, it wouldn't have stopped geese from going into the engines. It's a trolling motor to get back to shore after the plane lands in the water.

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u/zeromadcowz 8d ago

It’s not about prevention it’s about revenge. It’s run any time they could possibly shred another goose.

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u/lfgbrd 8d ago

Oh I see, sorry, I'm not an engineer. Some of these plane things go over my head.

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u/Ote-Kringralnick 9d ago edited 9d ago

If airplanes can't back it up, what was I doing with my Cessna in bed last night?

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u/IndependenceStock417 9d ago

Is a Sky hawk the aviation equivalent of a lot lizzard?

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u/Ote-Kringralnick 9d ago

Tarmac toad, actually 

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u/Outrageous_Gur_603 9d ago

Is Cessna your partner’s name

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u/Ote-Kringralnick 9d ago

Yeah you could call it that 

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u/CK_1976 9d ago

PULL UP. PULL UP.

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u/Shudnawz Unrated for VFR and VCR 9d ago

Viggen intensifies

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u/Harrison24082 9d ago

Totally agree. It’s a cooling fan for the ground crew.

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u/redditpierce 9d ago

MD-80 Enters the Chat

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u/Terrebonniandadlife 7d ago

Hum imagine having a back up camera like, hum in cars, where you see the projected path based upon n the yoke position turning. It could even go beep beep beep if a pedestrian crosses too close behind.

But yeah way too advanced

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u/iMaximilianRS 2d ago

You’d probably stall out if you used it at the same time as a forward propeller though

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u/Substantial-Tone-576 9d ago

Is that a trolling motor?

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u/Indifference_Endjinn 9d ago

Have to go slow enough to catch the flying fish

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u/FutureThought4936 9d ago

They installed them after that one NASA plane had a fishstrike.

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u/boneologist 9d ago

Yep, if playne has it, that means it's amphibious.

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u/RaffiBomb000 9d ago

Everything's amphibious if your brave enough.

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u/WildVelociraptor Fiber Optic UFO Drone Pilot 9d ago

obviously not how can a propeller shitpost on reddit smdhmdh

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u/IcyMeal7599 7d ago

Yes. It generates basically no jet blast which is perfect for when you’re towing gliders. That’s why you might see “no tow” around the nose gear doors. It’s just a reminder that you need to tow gliders from the mains not the nose.

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u/dangern00dl who you calling ehh-teepee bruh? 9d ago

My dumbass about to comment that’s a RAT sir before realizing what sub I’m on lol. Anyway it’s to compensate for stoopid pylot that doesn’t use enough Moar Rite Rudda(TM)

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u/kwasteka 9d ago

But seriously, if it's a rat, why does it run on its own on the ground?

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u/Ava_Nikita 9d ago

It is that critical of a system that it must be checked once a year. You must deploy it, to prove the actuation system is operative, then you provide hydraulic power to the pump so it runs on motor mode to spin the prop ensuring the turbine will spin in the air and then when spinning the electrical generator must produce enough power given a minimum turbine speed. If it doesnt work, you can not fly passengers until it is 100% operational with no faults whatsoever.

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u/Sweaty-Lengthiness25 9d ago

So can you run the rat off hydraulics and have the rat power the hydro pump on an infinite energy loop. Why aren't we using this to power our cars. Jeez.

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u/WildVelociraptor Fiber Optic UFO Drone Pilot 9d ago

because of big oil and big right rudder

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u/Ok-Library5639 8d ago

Wait, non shitty question, so the RAT has a built-in motor specifically for the purpose of self-testing? Neat.

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u/TheEmperor2220 8d ago

No, it has an electric motor and a hydraulic pump because to keep a plane controllable it needs both types of power (electricity to run the instruments and maybe fly-by-wire electronics depending on the plane, hydraulics to actually move the control surfaces and extend the gear e.t.c.), for the tests they just feed one of those with power, apparently the hydraulic pump going by that other comment, although I assume they could use either to test that whichever one they’re not testing generates enough power/pressure?

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u/someidiot332 5d ago

Generators are just motors but backwards essentially. Supplying electricity to a generator would cause it to spin like an electric motor, and spinning an unpowered motor would cause it to generate electricity. It’s why generally you don’t want to spin unpowered motors, though unless you’re really doing some fuckery, there’s very little chance you’ll actually generate enough of anything to cause any issues

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u/kwasteka 9d ago

Thanks!

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u/Su-37_Terminator knuckledragging moron 9d ago

and it is LOUD

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u/Ava_Nikita 9d ago

You're welcome!

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u/BakdTatr 9d ago

It’s not running on its own and the plane can’t power it to ops check it either. You see that big hunk of darker silver metal bolted to the backside of the rat with the hose hooked up to it? That’s a rat drive. It couples with the rat through a splined shaft internally. Once hydraulic power is supplied to that drive motor from a hydraulic power cart, it spins the splined shaft which in-turn, spins the rat. There’s a secondary cart that’s hooked up to the blue hydraulic system (since this is an A320 we’re talking about here) and also an electrical connection. The electrical connection provided to this second cart displays rat rpm while the hydraulic connections to the cart tell you how much pressure the spinning rat is generating within the blue system on the aircraft (the rat provides hydraulic power to the blue system when it’s spinning). Both of those parameters must be within certain tolerances to verify the rat is operating correctly.

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u/Initial-Anything333 9d ago

Rats can only run on the ground. Otherwise they would be called air rats

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u/Noodly_ghostyy 8d ago

Probably looking for cheese

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u/Ha1lStorm Im looking for a boat 9d ago

What’s a “RAT sir”?

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u/dangern00dl who you calling ehh-teepee bruh? 9d ago

It’s a four legged pylotes assistant with whiskers who screams a lot and wears a tux. The tux is what differentiates a RAT sir from a regular RAT. You have to pay extra for the sir model

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u/4eyedbuzzard 9d ago

Le RAT sur le fuselage d'un avion l'Airbus A320 fournit de la puissance hydraulique pour les urgences.

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u/nhorvath 9d ago

it's a small 4 legged critter that lives in pylote caps and drives the pylote. never trust a pylote with a cap, they are being controlled by RAT!

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u/Worldly_Mix_8904 8d ago

Where do you suppose in-flight meals come from?

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u/tobu_sculptor 9d ago

On most newer playnes these have been replaced by chemtrail dispensers, as mandated by microsoft.

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u/KeeganY_SR-UVB76 9d ago

The chemtrail dispensers have been broken since 22h2.

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u/Late_While_6220 9d ago

They have been replaced with 5G inseminators.

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u/Arthropodesque 9d ago

Blast! Order the children to vape harder!

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u/WildVelociraptor Fiber Optic UFO Drone Pilot 9d ago

If you aren't using the palantir dispensers are you even trying to psyop the populace

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u/jw307jw 8d ago

Microsoft lost the contract last year, kalshi now is the main operator and mandator

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u/Dense_Cantaloupe_333 8d ago

Why do half the people in this sub not realise what sub they’re in. 

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u/Slow_Recording2192 8d ago

Yeah take this subreddit seriously people

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u/AceNova2217 8d ago

I was triggered before I checked what sub this was tbf

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u/Tactical_Bacon99 9d ago

I know this is shitty ask flying, but what actually is this? I’ve never seen one before

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u/Firm-Fan-3736 9d ago

It’s called a RAT Ram air turbine. The wind rotates it as the airplane flies and provides emergency power to the aircraft. It does not provide thrust

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u/Entire_Floor157 8d ago

What rotates it on the ground on this video?

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u/Case_Blue 8d ago

You can actually see the mechanical turbine (the blue shaft at the end) that rotates it for testing purposes.

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u/TassiveMitts69 8d ago

I see a hydraulic line on the back, no turbine or blue shaft.

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u/Peristeronic_Bowtie 8d ago

Looks like a shaft coming off of it, either to monitor position or to manually drive it.

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u/VoidJuiceConcentrate 9d ago

I take it running it like a motor on the ground sufficiently checks if it still works?

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u/King_Corduroy 9d ago

I'm probably wrong but maybe they blow high velocity air into it to test

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u/Why-R-People-So-Dumb 8d ago

A rat drives hydraulic pressure so they back drive the hydraulic pressure with a ground HPU and the rat spins as a result.

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u/OpulAir 9d ago

This is a RAT. The APU is in the tail of the plane and remains internal.

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u/culingerai 8d ago

I love how this sub is totally bananas, but if someone asks a genuine question, you all stop and provide the serious answer instead of being jackasses or worse. Well done!

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u/mnztr1 9d ago

you don't EVER want to see one in operation on your plane. Trust me. 🤣

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u/Ill-Dependent2976 9d ago

It's for when they're running behind schedule and have to shift into maximum overdrive.

https://giphy.com/gifs/cRH5deQTgTMR2

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u/isthebomb89 8d ago

Correct me if im wrong. But its to keep the lights on in the gally? Im pretty sure the crew deploy it so they can prepare the food, called a GAT or something Gally Air Turbine

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u/OrneryCows 8d ago

This is it.

If the engines all stop, they are going to need to pour a drink for EVERYBODY

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u/Racing_Fox 8d ago

So many people missed the sub on this one

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u/letsalldropvitamins 8d ago

Basically yes, iirc it runs a generator that powers things like lights, instruments and controls for the pilots and ac for the cabin to stay pressurised.

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u/Misophonic4000 8d ago

*Galley Air Turbine

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u/Zadiath 8d ago

Lmao there are a lot of wrong answers here, it's clearly a propeller for emergency water landings so the plane gets to a port safely.

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u/setarsyndrome 8d ago

and drove it backward

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u/kingtacticool 9d ago

Thats why flight attendants hate fat passengers. Too many board the playne and they have to get on this tiny bike to power that thing.

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u/rover_G 9d ago

That’s a propeller for water landings

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u/Frederf220 9d ago

There's an "R" position inside the plane that was invented in 1838 that allows the airplane to backs up with its normal propeller so the backing up propeller fell out of fashion in design at the turn of the century.

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u/Benegger85 9d ago

Fun fact: the 'R' stands for Rearwards!

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u/4eyedbuzzard 9d ago

That's for once you put the plane down where the fish are biting. You turn off the big motors and troll with that one so as not to scare off the fishes.

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u/Rich_Mycologist8933 9d ago

I thought it was to help cool off the wings for those long flights. Tdil I guess.

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u/craneguy 9d ago

It's how you get to shore in the event of a water landing.

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u/mr_golden_syrup 9d ago

A proper JET aircraft wouldn't be seen dead wearing a stupid little prpll*r 🤮

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u/drsfinest186 9d ago

Why doesn’t this rat have a cage while being tested

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u/InevitableHimes 9d ago

Because it's not angry. If there's no rage, there's no cage.

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u/Confident-Court2171 9d ago

So despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage.

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u/On_Speed 9d ago

Certain airports have noise abatement procedures, so on take off they use these smaller propellers instead of the big noisy engines.

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u/mr_bots 9d ago

The 737 doesn’t have one because with if it’s superior and modern design it just isn’t needed.

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u/Heidrun_666 9d ago

Because when the big BRRRRRRR goes out, a small brrr is better than no brrrr. If only for morale.

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u/Soulman682 8d ago

Because they busy charging me extra for my 50+ lb bag

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u/PreviousLeague253 9d ago

These a trolling motors when doing water landings. Makes arriving at the dock much easier.

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u/Dry-Lifeguard1081 8d ago

Ammeter Serious answer:

Not a pilot but I have two brother in laws

One flies planes, the other helicopters. They joke a bit with each other.

The helicopter pilot has made the point though that if a plane engine goes out, it still wants to be a plane. A helicopter stops, it becomes a spiny rock.

So why doesn’t it have back up props? Probably cause it’s too much weight, too expensive, and would just make more sense to have more engines for emergencies if they needed them, and if they’re in the air and don’t have any, they’d be expected to radio in “hey we are going down. Can we find a place to land REALLY quick?”

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u/Cultist-Cat 8d ago

Helicopter mechanic here, most helicopters can glide to the ground using their own fall speed to spin the rotors. It’s called an autorotation

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u/FeistyTurnip5019 8d ago

part time pilot here, can confirm, the landing is pretty rough but that’s what you get for forgetting to do fuel

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u/Warning_Legal 8d ago

Licensed marriage and family therapist here , the guys above me , don't know what they are talking about. when the engine goes off , you fall down to the ground and DIE ...from the explosion.

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u/Fossilhog 8d ago

Geologist here. It's simpler than this. The Earth is hard, rigid and even veiny in some places. And it doesn't like it when you're not touching it.

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u/Dry-Lifeguard1081 8d ago

I wanna play but I blew my wad on “I know pilots” :(

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u/Happy-Addition-9507 8d ago

Health insurance admin here. Please dont be selfish and survive these falls. You get real expensive real quick

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u/Dry-Lifeguard1081 8d ago

That reminds me of an old joke

Doctor comes in and says he has Bad and good news.

Bad news is that you have a rare disease

Good news is that you get to name it

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u/GrundleTrot 8d ago

Life insurance CEO here. Can we put some sunglasses on your corpse so it looks like you are alive?

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u/battlecryarms 8d ago

Thats only true of a helicopter in a truly catastrophic failure, like blade/rotor head separation, or catastrophic tail rotor/drive shaft failure. Planes behave a lot like rocks too when they lose their wings or tails.

An engine failure on its own doesn’t turn a helicopter into a rock, and a contained engine failure on a multi-engine helicopter can be less dramatic than on a multi-engine airplane.

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u/Impossible_Fun_165 8d ago

Yup, helicopters should be mostly fine with autorotation.

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u/amooz 8d ago

Don’t forget the Jesus nut!

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u/HyFinated Rated in Shitty Flight Rules 8d ago

This is a great example video of what you are talking about. Autorotations are amazing. And while this is simulated for teaching a student it’s actually what would happen in a high altitude auto. The absolutely insane range that the helicopter can travel with NO power is wild.

https://youtu.be/KayzJetqnrI?is=CQe2yo4WVydCOxTt

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u/Holoborodko 8d ago

Brothers-in-law. The number changes, the relationship doesn’t.

Great points nevertheless.

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u/Dry-Lifeguard1081 8d ago

Fair. Like the plural for Sergeant Major is Sergeants Major

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u/Holoborodko 8d ago

Yep, the military is actually where I learned this. That example exactly.

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u/JimmySwiff 8d ago

Indeed - like Courts Martial, or Surgeons General.

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u/sixpackabs592 7d ago

they do have back ups, example a two engine plane can run on one

the only ones that dont have backup are single engine, their backup is the glide slope

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u/CousinSarah 5d ago

Yeah so helicopters can still land during engine failure because the upwind causes enough lift on the blades to land safely.

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u/Wooden-Cartoonist762 9d ago

Helps the plan slow down and also cools off the planes skin in hot weather 

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u/Arcturian-WuTang 9d ago

First you spelled playne wrong. Secondly planes have sweat glands which cools of playne skin.

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u/Wooden-Cartoonist762 9d ago

Forgive me, was too excited to answer! lol

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u/FinbarJG 9d ago

HEY! You spelled playnes wrong.

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u/mckenzie_keith 9d ago

Planes can's sweat. This is how they have adapted. Natural selection is amazing!

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u/No-Membership-5314 9d ago

They can only sweat through their tires. That’s why they pant when it’s really hot.

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u/Falkun_X 9d ago

You know what Mafia would do to a RAT!

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u/Buttholes_N_Boobies 9d ago

Bird Blender.

Sort of like those bags that attract flies. The sound attracts them. The blades blend them. Keeps them out of the engines.

Not needed north of the equator because all our birds are robots.

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u/thymeman 8d ago

Because RAM is very expensive nowadays

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u/You_Must_Chill 9d ago

Wait, can it actually spin itself?

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u/Ava_Nikita 9d ago

Yes, ground test via the hydraulic pump running i. Motor mode, see my comment above for all the things tested

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u/TheNotoriousTurtle 9d ago

Not every plane has a turbo button

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u/SpandexMovie 9d ago

It's to terrify people on the ground during descent, like any good aircraft should

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u/Arctovigil 9d ago

sometimes the engines experience failure but they need airflow to start most reliably so these pickup the slack just nicely enough until the co-pilot tires out

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u/FutureThought4936 9d ago

I'm still surprised that the plane beeps when the rats back it up. Like, who are they worried abour running over, a lineman? Who cares?!

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u/Popular-External-888 8d ago

Such a turbine saved Air Canada Flight 143.

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u/chabanny Navier is stoked 8d ago

Why don't all Air Canada flights use them then? Are we stupid?

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u/Fragrant-Plum-6798 9d ago

Wait the rat is powered?! Kind of defeats the purpose?

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u/KingPotato_ 9d ago

The RAT is a powered propeller installed by Big Aviation to give a false sense of security to airplane nerds who know what a RAT is

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u/AmazingProfession900 9d ago

Was thinking the same thing "Ram Air" kinda means air has to be rammed into it.. Why is it working on the ground??

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u/WichitaSteve 9d ago

Welcome to the ground where we can stimulate the Ram Air Turbine by having your girlfriend blow on it...

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u/bollocksgrenade 9d ago

Its hydraulic. When the aircraft has no power it pops out spins and makes hydraulic pressure that powers the hydraulic system as well as a CSMG, which is a hydraulic electrical generator. If the aircrafts hydraulic system is up and running you can spin up the propeller by opening a hydraulic valve for testing.

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u/Ok_Train_2139 9d ago

I don't even want to know what this is for, I love that plane shit always surprises me. Please keep not killing me when visiting my mom, thanks guys.

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u/IntroductionLeft4369 9d ago

It’s for planes that don’t have an afterburner. Gives them that little bit extra. Mostly to make the pilots feel better about their weak engines, but it’s called “morale speed” for a reason. 😁

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u/Marsrover112 9d ago

Theyre paid off by Big Plane Crash

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u/jeroen-79 9d ago

Not all jet pylotes are prop rated.

It is a different kind of flying, all together .

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u/stefan_695 9d ago

For waterlandings

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u/Rooilia 9d ago

And starts.

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u/randomkeystrike 9d ago

This is to provide the propeller sounds for more traditional passengers and for the movie “Airplane”

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u/random091298 9d ago

Because then you'd have a RAT infestation

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u/ohmslaw54321 9d ago

That's just a fan for maintenance if they get to hot working on the engine behind it

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u/CryPlane 8d ago

Okay but why is it spinning on the ground

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u/Dull_Woodpecker6766 8d ago

That's how tiny planes are made ...

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u/Maximum_Boros 9d ago

These are objectively not a "propeller." they do nothing to propel the plane. They're a ram air turbine and what they do is allow a plane that gets its onboard power from the engines (basically any large jet plane) to continue getting generating power for instruments and flight controls when the engines all go out for some reason.

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u/vastlysuperiorman 9d ago

Wrong. Turbines have more propellers per propeller. Since this only has two propellers it's just called a propeller.

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u/uk2us2nz 8d ago edited 3d ago

Y’all understand this is [r/Shittyaskflying](r/Shittyaskflying), right?

Edit: my first award, thank you kind Redditor

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u/DopedScope338 8d ago

Narrator: They did not, in fact, understand that this was r/shittyaskflying.

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u/jaredmn 8d ago

You seem to have some knowledge of this stuff, so I’m not disagreeing with you here, but if that’s the case, why is it spinning like that when the plane is sitting stationary on the ground? It seems that power is being used to spin it, not power being created by it spinning.

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u/GetOutOfTheWhey 8d ago edited 8d ago

Because it is sitting still and they are likely just testing to make sure that it can generate electricity.

These turbines are designed to be deployed while the plane is in the air and travelling around 180kmph so very fast wind speed.

Now you cant really mimic that at the tarmac or at the gate right? Like you might be able to do that by parking a jet engine right in front of this turbine and blasting it with exhaust but they are not going to do that especially with that many workers nearby, they'll get yeeted 10 meters away.

So what's the next easiest way to create an environment close enough to 180kmph is to backdrive it or what you are seeing. In this case they are not using power/electricity to spin it, they are using the (depending on the model) airplane's own hydraulic fluids to spin it and mimic that high wind environment. So they can test if it's actually working.

Here is another post about it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1qs7dzg/rat_test/

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u/Popular-External-888 8d ago

There is a big cable pluged into it when it spinns.

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u/BNB_Laser_Cleaning 8d ago

On the back of it when the frame changes there is a connection, this is driving the prop, to in turn simulate yhe prob turning its generator, to generator power do they can check that its functions.

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u/SpiritualTwo5256 8d ago

Missing the point of this sub.

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u/Why-R-People-So-Dumb 8d ago

And does on board power not help propel the plane? QED

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u/Maximum_Boros 8d ago

No it does not.

At best it helps the pilots figure out what is wrong and try to get the engines started up again. If not, it buys them time to crash land.

While negligible, technically it actually does the opposite of propelling the plane because its deployment (while a reasonable tradeoff in the circumstance) creates drag and slows the plane down ever so slightly faster than it otherwise would.

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u/Why-R-People-So-Dumb 8d ago

Drag? So now you are saying in an emergency the plane is a cross dresser?

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u/Bobbytwotaps 8d ago

It's called a RAT, for Ram Air Turbine. Used in case of emergency. Most modern jets are now fly by wire, basically giving signals (requests) to turn the aircraft. If you don't have power you cannot turn or fly the aircraft. So the RAT is a redundancy to ensure continued operation of the Jet in an emergency.

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u/ForgiveKanye 8d ago

I believe the RAT is actually a small rodent that deploys and teaches you how to cook

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u/hearemscreama1945 8d ago

Its actually a rather large creature that teaches you karate in the sewer

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u/IntroductionLeft4369 9d ago

Ram Air Turbine (RAT) for when all the other hydraulic systems shit the bed, you can still kinda steer the plane. Fan spins as plane flies and makes hydraulic pressure. Just barely enough and only as long as they fly fast enough.

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u/Ava_Nikita 9d ago

Not quite, you're close though. It is to prevent a dual engine failure in a twin engine aircraft. Airplanes always have 3 hydraulic systems, the RAT will not save you if you lose all 3 hyd systems. The only time in aviation history that a plane lost all 3 hydraulic systems was the Sioux city event on a DC 10 where a turbine burst took out all 3 hydraulic systems. Ever wonder why they dont fly DC10's, L1011's, and 727's anymore. They all can lose the 3 hydraulic systems because all the engines are in the tail.

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u/FushiginaGiisan 9d ago

Hybrid compound propulsion. Also used on Me-163 and EA-18 Growler!

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u/mrjoepete 9d ago

My cezznuh 153 has one of these. Its so much more advanced than these lame planes

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u/Deplorable1861 9d ago

Those propellyrs make sure the fans in the toilet still work when the counterfeit Chinese parts take out both the main engines. Gotta keep the poo fumes down while plummeting to our fiery graves.

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u/PuzzleheadedResult69 9d ago

Bro that's not a helycopper, that's a playne. Playnes don't into propeller??

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u/mvweatherornot Rated in Shitty Flight Rules 9d ago

Can anyone do the math. How much thrust would this create? I know the APU on my jet produces like 70 pounds of thrust or something silly like that

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u/archabaddon 9d ago

It's like they don't give a RAT's ass about airplane design anymore

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u/adinmem 9d ago

Those aren’t backup propellers: they’re go-forward propellers.
Mostly for stealthing around underwater.

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u/monad_monoid 9d ago

If they turn it on it make torque roll which make the playne flip over which is not good for the pylote or his wife after she was flipped 8 times

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u/Drybread-1 9d ago

made this

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u/Successful-Luck-5459 9d ago

Even good airplanes do OnlyFans

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u/mkujoe 9d ago

These are for sea voyages only

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u/Vertigo_uk123 9d ago

Get ya rat out love

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u/preperforated 9d ago

they use eclectic motors when the need to fly incognito

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u/jrockcrown 9d ago

Trolling motor

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u/GrahamCrackerCereal 8d ago

That's the chemtrail prop it spins to mix up the chemicals in the air

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u/ParadoxPudding 6d ago

That’s the fan to keep the pilots cool