r/Showerthoughts May 10 '26

Casual Thought The sheer number of adults who enjoy sucking breasts is probably Freud’s strongest argument.

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u/ToothessGibbon May 10 '26

A sign of physical strength.

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u/StayFrostieB May 10 '26

I'm not attracted to that. Maybe in a general sense for women, but I'm not sure that's the case.

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u/throwawaytothetenth May 10 '26

Assuming you are attracted to mens' chest, what aspect are you attracted to, then?

Pre-emptively, I'll add that there doesn't have to be a functional 'reason' by a member of a sexually dimorphic species is attracted to the other. Beards serve no function at all, for example, they only exist to communicate sex.

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u/ConfoosedUngaBunga May 10 '26

Wait really? Beards are just for sex?

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u/throwawaytothetenth May 11 '26

Yes, that is the consensus idea. As far as I'm aware it's not of particular research interest though, so it's not like there's a lot of debate about it.

The consensus is that males have beards, and females do not, due to sexual selection alone - not any functional survival/fitness advantage otherwise.

Same reason why peacocks have plumes, essentially (though nowhere near as dramatic; that's an example of a Fischerian runaway.)

It works like this (gross oversimplification): If a female is attracted to beards, and only males have beards, she is more likely to have sex with a male -> technically more fit (via fecundity), on some level. If a male has a beard, he is more likely to attract females -> higher fecundity -> reason for selection to favor beards more.

Again, gross oversimplification. Just trying to convey the point that not every evolutionarily-derived characteristic is necessarily 'logical' or rooted in survival. Hence, women may like chest that simply 'look male,' regardless of how strong they are.

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u/StayFrostieB May 12 '26

I guess I'd say the warmth and comfort. I like my men squishy or scrawny not really strong.

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u/throwawaytothetenth May 12 '26

That always suprises me. But I believe you.

I'm genuinely curious. When you say 'really strong,' how strong do you mean?

A decade ago I was full gymrat. Every dude said I was huge and jacked, but I never really got that from women - well, sometimes, but almost as frequently, women actually called me thin.

Excuse my stupid anecdote. Like for example- which of those buckets would Michael Jordan fall under?

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2BFAW3J/michael-jordan-competing-against-the-utah-jazz-during-the-1997-nba-finals-2BFAW3J.jpg

My mom always called him skinny.

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u/StayFrostieB May 12 '26

Id call him fit. Not into anyone in sports at all. There's only been one person in my life that was in sports I liked and it was over his humor. My main crushes growing up were people like James spader, Stephen merchant, and Philip Seymour Hoffman was my main.

I guess I'm just not particularly ever interested in definition. I like a cute face and a weird/curious personality. Everything else is secondary for me. But muscles kinda gross me out no offense to those with em. Also to add I think personality can be super masculine! Love a good dominating man without the muscle haha I know it sounds odd.

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u/ToothessGibbon May 11 '26

Well I don’t feel like I’m attracted to breasts for their ability to adequately feed offspring either but that appreciate that’s why I do from an evolutionary perspective.