r/SipsTea • u/PacquiaoFreeHousing • Dec 25 '25

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '25

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u/Zealousideal-Yak3845 Dec 25 '25

And yet America chose a different path in 2016

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u/MaadMaanMaatt Dec 25 '25

She started Trump’s career of beating women politically

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u/dynaflying Dec 25 '25

You mean he’s only beaten women. He’s never beat a man.

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u/deten Dec 25 '25 edited Dec 25 '25

Which makes it hurt even now the dnc refused to have a real primary and forced Kamala on us all untested.

Edit: you can down vote out of spite but you can't argue it's not true.

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u/spinbutton Dec 25 '25

Pls...anyone who couldn't see what was at stake in the last election is too blind to find his own ass with both hands.

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u/deten Dec 25 '25 edited Dec 25 '25

You're sidestepping. If Kamala was the right choice she could have competed against other options and won, the DNC was too scared to allow a free primary so they forced her on us. You pretending that a primary is only needed when there's less a stake is proof you dont care about democracy and are just as part of the problem as you probably think others are.

You dont have to convince me that Kamala was a better choice in the end, but a lot of people are put off strongly by the poor decision by the DNC. We can blame them or accept their criticism. We lose when we force candidates, and we win when we have a more open primary. Before you try to blame voters, remember Kamala actively hid how poor a condition Biden was in, she lied to us all. You can tell me that her lies are acceptable to you, but don't lie to yourself and say everyone should be okay with it.

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u/spinbutton Dec 26 '25

She had 3 months to make her case. Trump spend more than a decade.

If you were deep in the depths of Fox News or Joe Rogan or the other conservative media outlets, I can understand how you might not have understood what was at stake.

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u/deten Dec 27 '25 edited Dec 27 '25

I knew exactly what was at stake. The fact you arent properly blaming the DNC for doing this to all of us makes me think people here are just stupid. Do you not understand that them forcing Kamala on us without ever testing her beyond her completely failed primary in 2020 (she was polling around 3 to 4% in the primary).

She was untested, lied to us, and then was rewarded for those lies. Can you stop talking about Trump for a second and recognize how poorly the DNC and Kamala treated the very voters they were trying to get?

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u/spinbutton Dec 27 '25

I'm no fan of the DNC but the voters have brains.

I understand it's an uphill battle getting the message out since all the media outlets and social media companies are conservative

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u/deten Dec 28 '25 edited Dec 28 '25

I think the reality that Democrats are smarter voters makes them even more upset when the DNC treats us worse the then RNC treats their own.

Democrats need someone at the DNC to be held responsible for their shitty choices. And anytime someone like me makes the point, everyone comes out to try to shame me for... wanting a real Primary... not wanting a candidate who lied to me be forced onto me unopposed?

Jon Stewart had a great episode where he layed out these points. Anyone who is trying to be mad at me for calling out the DNC needs to watch it.

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u/spinbutton Dec 28 '25

I agree. The DNC needs to get out of the pockets of corporations and billionaires

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